1. Closingracer's Avatar
    I actually think the Pro is priced fine next to the Air 2 (which I assume will still be sold) and the Mini 4.

    What drives me nuts is that the pen is $100 and the keyboard is $170.....
    $399 for the mini 4 and $499 for now the year old Air 2 and then $799 for the pro? No thanks . That's $300 more then the Air 2. Plus with the other fact apps won't be available for the pro for at least. 3-5 months at least in mass because we will need to wait for developers to upgrade their apps ?


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    09-09-2015 10:51 PM
  2. tigerinexile's Avatar
    Apple prices things right at the "I love that device but how can I possibly pay $X for it?" point.

    They know they've got (some of) us.


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    09-09-2015 11:18 PM
  3. jdhooghe's Avatar
    I think it's fair. The surface pro starts around that price and it looks like the stylus works even better. Definitely a sexy device

    from my smexy Note 5
    09-09-2015 11:53 PM
  4. Honey Beagle's Avatar
    $799 for a base model I don't see this much more then a niche device. At that price I don't see the general public buying it unless they have money to burn or is an Apple fanatic/ just prefer the Apple ecosystem.

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    Just a play toy for the rich.
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    09-10-2015 12:13 AM
  5. Honey Beagle's Avatar
    You don't need 8GB of ram to Web browse, basic productivity like word and you don't need a SSD. Even then it's fairly cheap to upgrade ram and the Hard drive for around $800 which is still cheaper then the iPad Pro plus keyboard.


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    My Acer 21.5 inch touchscreen has 4gb of memory and a 500gb hard drive. Price I paid was 300.00. Came with Windows 8.1. Recently updated to Windows 10. Purchased computer brand new.

    This computer does everything it needs to do. One thing I am temporarily using the computer is a TV. Has a HDMI in port. My actual TV needs a bulb. Not a biggie.
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    09-10-2015 12:21 AM
  6. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I can understand the price of the iPad Pro. And I'm still on the fence about getting one. I did want to buy a new iPad this year. But I'm not sure. If it were the iPad Air 3 I would have gotten it for sure. As $699 would have afforded me the 128 GB model. But I will have to see this thing in person first.


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    09-10-2015 07:48 AM
  7. Bigeric23's Avatar
    For Apple I think it's priced just right.
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    09-10-2015 08:20 AM
  8. qbnkelt's Avatar
    $799 for a base model I don't see this much more then a niche device. At that price I don't see the general public buying it unless they have money to burn or is an Apple fanatic/ just prefer the Apple ecosystem.

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    Or someone who appreciates support and world class customer service as opposed to being left out to dry with lackadaisical maintenance schedules and OS "upgrades" that render devices fairly unusable.

    Fanaticism for quality products with impeccable support? Yup. I guess I'm a fanatic for those.
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    09-10-2015 08:24 AM
  9. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Based on spec for a laptop. I would say they are fair.
    Considering you can get a Surface Pro 3, that actually runs Pro Apps, with an i5 CPU and 64GB Storage for the same price, and its accessories are cheaper - never mind the support for external storage devices, etc. - at the same base price point.

    The price of this iPad is kind of ridiculous.

    They're talking about an iPad Pro, and raving about how you can edit videos in iMovie on it. FFS... They cannot be serious.

    And is it just me or did the whole even seem a bit... lacking in enthusiasm?

    I also found it hilarious when the Microsoft people were doing their demonstration and he said "I'm just going to use my finger for this," Lol. That <probably> ticked off a couple of people backstage.

    I find the pen looks nice, but I'm wondering why Samsung seems to be the only OEM that can create a stylus that doesn't need a battery/recharges to keep working...

    I don't see why anyone would buy this over a Surface Pro 3, if they're an actual Pro. It's just a better device in every way except "mobile app ecosystem"
    09-10-2015 08:25 AM
  10. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Just a play toy for the rich.
    That's what they said for the iPad. Now it's ubiquitous in corporate, medical, education, government....it's replaced some laptops at my agency. I'd rather travel with this than with a laptop. Perfect blend of keeping my personal things, manage my life, and yes, entertainment on long flights.

    This one will follow its predecessors. Even more so in those areas I mentioned.

    Let's investigate use cases before using the usual "toy" hogwash, shall we?
    09-10-2015 08:32 AM
  11. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    When you are looking at the pricing of similar (and really only competition) in the market of tablet/laptop hybrids, the price is a steal.
    http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/...Specifications
    The starting Wacom Cintiq companion running Windows is $1999.

    Many of you have no use for the pen input. If you have no use for it, the product is not for you. For those who do, it is incredibly competitively priced.
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    09-10-2015 08:56 AM
  12. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Yup I don't see myself using the pencil. I'm on the fence about the keyboard.
    09-10-2015 08:58 AM
  13. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    Will this Win laptop let you edit three 4K streams at once.

    There were a few things that the Adobe gentleman did and said they were iPad pro only. Like face recognition in Elements.
    09-10-2015 09:47 AM
  14. independentvolume's Avatar
    I'll wait to judge price when the surface pro 4 drops as that will be the true competitor to this iPad.
    09-10-2015 10:19 AM
  15. hearmeoutx's Avatar
    Everyone said that the iPad was overpriced when it was released. It is now one of the leading tablets out there. Apple is very good about under promising and over delivering. I expect that to be the case here. I do not however expect to be investing it the pro this time around anyway. It is just not in the budget, or needed.


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    09-10-2015 10:41 AM
  16. Eric_WVGG's Avatar
    They did? The way I remember it, everyone was shocked that Apple was releasing a tablet computer under the $1000 price point.
    09-10-2015 11:13 AM
  17. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I don't see why anyone would buy this over a Surface Pro 3, if they're an actual Pro. It's just a better device in every way except "mobile app ecosystem"
    Latency when using the Surface Pro 3 as a drawing pad is annoying...if the iPad Pro remedies this, it will become a staple for people who value drawing tablets.
    09-10-2015 11:14 AM
  18. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Latency when using the Surface Pro 3 as a drawing pad is annoying...if the iPad Pro remedies this, it will become a staple for people who value drawing tablets.
    I've used one and the latency is low. Latency on the newer note pro was low as well. The device needs more than lower pen latency to cover for the fact that the apps it runs are no match for what professionals are capable of running on a Surface Pro or even a normal Surface 3 tablet.

    Dedicated drawing tablets can be had for much cheaper than this.


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    09-10-2015 11:16 AM
  19. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Considering you can get a Surface Pro 3, that actually runs Pro Apps, with an i5 CPU and 64GB Storage for the same price, and its accessories are cheaper - never mind the support for external storage devices, etc. - at the same base price point.

    The price of this iPad is kind of ridiculous.

    They're talking about an iPad Pro, and raving about how you can edit videos in iMovie on it. FFS... They cannot be serious.

    And is it just me or did the whole even seem a bit... lacking in enthusiasm?

    I also found it hilarious when the Microsoft people were doing their demonstration and he said "I'm just going to use my finger for this," Lol. That <probably> ticked off a couple of people backstage.

    I find the pen looks nice, but I'm wondering why Samsung seems to be the only OEM that can create a stylus that doesn't need a battery/recharges to keep working...

    I don't see why anyone would buy this over a Surface Pro 3, if they're an actual Pro. It's just a better device in every way except "mobile app ecosystem"
    How do you know? Have been using the Pro, already? I understand that spewing sour grapes over the price is a common way to cope with the disappointment of not being able to get/do/have something, but don't you think your sour grapes are turning to vinegar, now?

    There are many reasons why people would choose an iPad pro over a surface 3: staying with the Apple ecosystem is one of them, customer service, product quality and performance are other reasons.

    Personally I don't feel that the pro would be a suitable replacement for my Air 2 but I think that when the time comes, it will make a fantastic replacement for my MBA.

    The price?
    Well, first and foremost, Apple is a business, they sell their product for profit, what a novel concept.
    Would you bash a Rolls Royce or a Lamborghini because you can't afford them?
    09-10-2015 11:28 AM
  20. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I've used one and the latency is low. Latency on the newer note pro was low as well. The device needs more than lower pen latency to cover for the fact that the apps it runs are no match for what professionals are capable of running on a Surface Pro or even a normal Surface 3 tablet.

    Dedicated drawing tablets can be had for much cheaper than this.


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    You've apparently never tried to use the Surface Pro 3 in a professional manner...I actually own one. The latency issues are annoying, especially for precision line work, but I make it work when I'm forced to use the thing (thankfully when working from home, I have my Mac Pro and wacom combo).

    Like I said before, I have no idea if this iPad Pro is a great drawing tool or a complete dud because I haven't used it...but if they are able to improve precision on the Apple Pencil vs. what the Surface Pro does, this thing will become a heavy hitter in the field.

    None of these things are on the level to replace a good PC and wacom tablet, but I'm hoping this iPad Pro gets closer.
    09-10-2015 11:28 AM
  21. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Doesn't matter how the latency is if you can't fun the apps you need. I've used the SP3 enough to know what the latency is like. You can go as deep into it as you'd like, though.

    I just don't think a designer using Photoshop is going to drop a Surface Pro for an iPad Pro, considering that same tablet you use with you Mac Pro can be used with a Surface tablet.

    Which is kind of my point. I understand an IPad as a supplementary device. I cannot see how it can replace Windows or OS X for Pro use. The reason why I mentioned the Surface specifically is because there is no comparable OS X hybrid device to compare the iPad Pro to within Apples ecosystem.

    I edit audio and video. I also use Dartfish. Dartfish Express isn't a replacement for their Windows Software, and they don't make an OS X version. iMovie and GarageBand can't even compare to even the cheap consumer/prosumer Audio and Video Editors available for Desktop OSes.

    My confusion stems form the fact that it's aimed at the Pro Market, but not even Apple found a reason to develop anything even close to a Pro App for it. The software available for it is all pretty much unsuitable for Pro Use, unless you want to deal with Adobe's 5,000 apps that they've plastered across every app store (why update one app, juts create a new one!) - and even that's stretching it.

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    09-10-2015 11:31 AM
  22. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    How do you know? Have been using the Pro, already? I understand that spewing sour grapes over the price is a common way to cope with the disappointment of not being able to get/do/have something, but don't you think your sour grapes are turning to vinegar, now?

    There are many reasons why people would choose an iPad pro over a surface 3: staying with the Apple ecosystem is one of them, customer service, product quality and performance are other reasons.

    Personally I don't feel that the pro would be a suitable replacement for my Air 2 but I think that when the time comes, it will make a fantastic replacement for my MBA.

    The price?
    Well, first and foremost, Apple is a business, they sell their product for profit, what a novel concept.
    Would you bash a Rolls Royce or a Lamborghini because you can't afford them?
    I can easily afford this tablet. Don't get ahead of yourself. Why don't you try actually talking about the points addressed in the post you quoted instead of just crying and flooding villages with tears in response to it?
    09-10-2015 11:38 AM
  23. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I never said anyone would or wouldn't replace their existing equipment with this thing...I've simply shown some excitement that Apple is entering the arena, because I personally prefer Apple's mobile OS to even the full blown Windows OS on this Surface tablet. Don't get me wrong, my SP3 is pretty cool...and when I first got it, some of the things it can do were absolutely awesome (still are)...it just doesn't quite get precision right, and when it comes to drawing things that require such (I do cartography so it's an absolute necessity), you find the annoyances become glaring. I have to adjust my production style when using it because of the latency between the pen and my hand...and the speed that I do the work.

    I'm simply hopeful that Apple gets this right with the iPad Pro...from there, software is simple, just a matter of filling a need with more apps. If they get the precision part of this pencil down, the software will come, and it will come fast.
    09-10-2015 11:41 AM
  24. canuckvoip's Avatar
    Use case notwithstanding, I'm surprised that there is only a $50 difference between a 6s+ and the iPad Pro. Seems odd to me. I mean right off the bat the iPad has double the storage and that is always a $100 premium on a iPhone. So if you think the iPad is overpriced, what about the phone?
    09-10-2015 12:29 PM
  25. worldspy99's Avatar
    I actually think the Pro is priced fine next to the Air 2 (which I assume will still be sold) and the Mini 4.

    What drives me nuts is that the pen is $100 and the keyboard is $170.....
    Apple always charges top dollar for accessories but we all know that, right?
    09-10-2015 01:16 PM
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