1. SquireSCA's Avatar
    I see this in other product lines.

    Take motorcycles... Triumph's best selling streetbike is a 1050cc triple cylinder naked sportbike called the "Speed Triple". It is an awesome bike, I had one. Lots of torque, about 122hp at the rear wheel, etc...

    Now, they have a 675cc bike, called the Street Triple. Same sorta bike, think "little brother" to the other one.

    Now, that smaller bike uses the 675cc motor from their Daytona race bike. Doesn't make anywhere near the same torque as the larger displacement bike, but the peak HP isn't all that much lower.... about 112hp or so at the wheel. The difference though, is that the little brother is lighter... a LOT lighter... So the HP to weight ratio is almost the same as the larger bike, but because it is lighter, it handles better and is actually a quicker bike overall...

    So when they took that motor out of the Daytona and put it into the Street Triple that my fiance rides, they neutered it to only make about 95hp at the rear wheel.

    Their reasoning was that they couldn't have a "smaller" bike, that was $4k cheaper, out perform their flagship best seller, for fear of having the little bike sell more and thus reduce revenue. They wanted to create a segment for each bike, so that some people would buy one, and others would buy the other, rather than have everyone just get the cheaper model because it was just as capable... Make sense?

    I strongly suspect that Apple is doing the same thing here... If the iPad could do everything that the MacBook air does, but you can get it cheaper, why would you need a MacBook Air? Get the iPad Air 2, add a nice keyboard and save yourself hundreds of $$, not just on the device, but also the apps for the iPad are quite a bit cheaper than the apps on the MacBook.

    That's my thought, anyway...
    06-03-2015 10:47 AM
  2. sparksd's Avatar
    Here is an idea... Now that you are retired, research and create an app to do exactly what we are talking about, and I bet that people would buy it.

    What we are looking to do isn't revolutionary... A couple billion people do it on other platforms every day. People would pay $5-$10 for a nice single app to do what we are talking about, in a simple and intuitive manner.

    The only fly in the ointment is whether or not Apple and iTunes will let you. I said before, I think that they intentionally keep the iPad in the tablet arena through software restrictions(I say restrictions rather than limitations, because this is an intentional decision to keep certain functions out of the OS), instead of the "computer in a tablet form factor" arena, for the main purpose of preventing it from cannibalizing MacBook sales...

    Thoughts?
    I probably couldn't code ny way out of a paper bag these days - I spent the last 15 years working as a Mission Systems Architect. I'd need to tell my team to make it And I'm not sure how feasible it would be without jailbreaking the tablet.
    06-03-2015 11:44 AM
  3. sparksd's Avatar
    Another twist to this - not all apps are set up to use iCloud. In this particular case, iBooks apparently cannot access iCloud and Acrobat is set up to use Adobe's own cloud implementation. In short, it does not look like PDF files can be iCloud-based. I was able to import a PDF file from iCloud using FileBrowser and from there select both Acrobat and iBooks to open it with. The PDF file then shows up in the libraries of both iBooks and Acrobat. But the question still remains - how many physical copies of this file now reside on the iPad? 3, one for each app that it now shows up in?
    Got an answer to this over in the Apple Support Community - there would be 3 copies of the file on the iPad in the scenario I presented (what I expected).
    06-04-2015 08:02 AM
  4. SquireSCA's Avatar
    Got an answer to this over in the Apple Support Community - there would be 3 copies of the file on the iPad in the scenario I presented (what I expected).
    Doh! That is just crazy.

    There HAS to be a reason why they do things this way, but I am stumped. It makes no sense. Why would every app that opens up a stupid Doc need its own copy of it, taking up space?

    iOS really needs a revamp. When you sell devices with limited storage, making multiple copies of everything is just silly. Someone dropped the ball there... Form over function...
    06-04-2015 09:03 AM
  5. sparksd's Avatar
    Doh! That is just crazy.

    There HAS to be a reason why they do things this way, but I am stumped. It makes no sense. Why would every app that opens up a stupid Doc need its own copy of it, taking up space?

    iOS really needs a revamp. When you sell devices with limited storage, making multiple copies of everything is just silly. Someone dropped the ball there... Form over function...
    Here's a link to some Apple developer info on this sandbox approach:

    https://developer.apple.com/library/...ppSandbox.html
    06-04-2015 09:20 AM
  6. SquireSCA's Avatar
    Here's a link to some Apple developer info on this sandbox approach:

    https://developer.apple.com/library/...ppSandbox.html
    Interesting. But personally, its too much. Yeah, there might be slightly more security there, but when security gets to a point that using the device becomes cumbersome, then it defeats the purpose...

    It's like when I worked at ADP... All about security... Internally in sales, we had like 11 different system we had to log in to... None of them could have the same password, they all had to get new passwords every 30 days, and none of them could be recycled... Sounds crazy secure, right?

    Nope. Because they made it so cumbersome that the only way you could remember all of them was to jot them down on a post-it and put it on your monitor or in the drawer, thus defeating the purpose of heightened security by making it so cumbersome that most people did the LAST thing that you are supposed to do. LOL
    06-04-2015 09:25 AM
  7. sparksd's Avatar
    Download an app like Goodreader where you can save files locally on the device.
    Thanks for the pointer. I just got around to purchasing and using this app and I'm finding it very useful for moving files around the iPad, the cloud (iCloud, Google Drive, & DropBox), and my locally-networked devices (PCs, NAS). Having gotten a better idea of the iOS sandbox file mgmt scheme from this thread, I can more efficiently manage files on my iPad. It is definitely different from Android and other systems but it's one I can adjust to.
    06-05-2015 12:25 AM
  8. Greek Geek's Avatar
    You might also look at this:
    Thanks Bigeric23 for showing me the File Manager app. I've been looking for something like that for a while now, as I deliberately bought my iPhone with the maximum amount of memory so that I could store things locally instead of having to redownload things every time from the cloud whenever I'm in places without internet. However, I have since not found a reliable way to be able to do that, so hopefully this app solves the problem. Do you happen to know if it will allow me to view files form my PC, or whether it will only recognize Mac files? (I know that sometimes the NTFS file system that Windows uses is not always intercompatible with the FAT32 FileSystem that everybody else uses, unless that functionality has been deliberately programmed into the software to recognize them). So your insight here would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
    06-05-2015 05:14 AM
  9. Greek Geek's Avatar
    Short answer? Evernote. I subscribe to the premium edition ($45/yeupfront or $5/month) gets you practically unlimited uploads and killer native OCR (optical character recognition) within the app. You can just scan directly to EN from anywhere and let the application figure out the OCR on the back end. Their mobile app is excellent as well with wonderful mobile document scanning/camera capture. Example - I go out to eat on a business lunch. Get receipt, scan to EN via phone app and camera. Throw away receipt afterwards or give back to waitress. It converts to pdf within the app, you can tag with "business expense" or whatever else you need and then I put in my "porter consulting" notebook. You can also attach to expense reports later as a PDF if needed, etc. If I want to see how many times I ate at "on the border" then I can search on that exact term within evernote and it will show just those notes with that exact string (amazingly accurate too).

    Long answer: I do keep Dropbox as well although only the 2GB free account (plus some referral bonuses for a total of 8GB total). If Evernote is a virtual "file cabinet" accessible from anywhere then I'll call dropbox my "virtual junk drawer" to throw music, video, pics into. Pluses include utter simplicity of use (although they've made it a little more complicated lately and scalable to enterprise level). Although you can get extremely sophisticated with dropbox and do wonderful things with it, I use it at this point as above.

    Hope that helps? Pardon the rambling :-)
    WOW!! Thankyou Volsfan for your great insight on this app, and especially for going into detail in describing the receipt scanning method you use for converting them into searchable PDFs. -That's really useful. Over here in Greece where I live, the Tax office are real sticklers for receipt keeping, and it gets kinda messy to have lots of bits of paper lying around. (I also sincerely pity the poor guy who would eventually have to sift through them all in order to try and make sense of them), so I think I'm going to start using your method from now on! PDFs are so much more useful, and paperless is definitely the way to go.
    Last edited by kch50428; 06-05-2015 at 09:32 AM. Reason: Clenup
    06-05-2015 05:16 AM
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