1. Tartarus's Avatar
    You have to essential download them again from the app store but then they get added to the very last page, so you'll have to rearrange them again.

    I have no issues with my app/folder layout, and really have not really been to enamored with the App Library.
    That’s not true.
    Apps that are removed from the homescreen but still in the App Library are still installed on the phone.
    You simply have to add them back to a homescreen in whatever order you like.

    What you say is only true if you delete an app.
    kataran likes this.
    07-18-2020 08:35 AM
  2. Rockdog97's Avatar
    That’s not true.
    Apps that are removed from the homescreen but still in the App Library are still installed on the phone.
    You simply have to add them back to a homescreen in whatever order you like.

    What you say is only true if you delete an app.
    Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification.
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    07-18-2020 10:26 AM
  3. nyc_rock's Avatar
    I have to say that I do not like the App Library. I find it useless and I have so many apps that I forget about because they are buried in folders. I like that the home screens have been cleaned up but I prefer the way Android does it. Just a grid of icons that I can scroll through when I’m bored. I also prefer androids swipe up gesture to get to it. There is no swipe up on IOS, why not put it there instead of all the way to the right? IMO this is an example of different doesn’t mean better.
    Highrisedrifter likes this.
    09-11-2020 03:08 AM
  4. Wotchered's Avatar
    I do not understand(often the case !) I open my phone/pad and there is my app library ! in my XS’s case seven pages of it, which I have nowhere near filled plus, I have used several ikon spaces as folders. Now, whyfor do I need yet another mechanism for storing apps ?
    09-13-2020 05:51 AM
  5. FFR's Avatar
    Good thing it is optional.

    I prefer the iOS home screen with static icons on several pages. Leave the app drawer for Mac OS.

    Widgets might be fun.

    We should know more next week.
    09-13-2020 07:06 AM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    I’m also just ignoring the App Library. I don’t get how it’s useful.
    09-13-2020 08:03 PM
  7. Chuck_IV's Avatar
    Is there any way to organize it yourself or are you stuck with the grouping Apple creates?
    09-13-2020 11:17 PM
  8. Highrisedrifter's Avatar
    Is there any way to organize it yourself or are you stuck with the grouping Apple creates?
    I'm new to the beta, only having it installed since Beta 7 but I cannot for the life of me find a way to organize the apps in the app library, meaning it's honestly next to useless for me and if I could find a way of disabling it, i'd do that in a heartbeat.
    09-14-2020 12:29 AM
  9. Tartarus's Avatar
    Is there any way to organize it yourself or are you stuck with the grouping Apple creates?
    No there is not. At least, not yet, for now.
    Maybe in the future.
    09-14-2020 03:58 AM
  10. Modelflier's Avatar
    Must admit I’m not keen on not being able to edit the App Library groups, but I do like the way you can ‘down swipe’ in the library to see an alphabetical list of all apps, really handy when you know you’ve got an app but just cant remember where you’ve put it!
    09-14-2020 10:31 AM
  11. flyinion's Avatar
    I think people are misunderstanding the intent behind the app library. I think it's meant to be a place to hold all of your apps whether you use them constantly or just say once every few months or something but don't want to uninstall them. It leaves you free to finally clean up and organize your homescreen(s) much more (as much as you can at least without being able to move apps around outside of the locked down grid where you can't create empty space). Yes it autogroups them, but you can easily search them just like the spotlight search you can do on 13 and earlier, or you can get that alphabetical listing which I think is even better.

    Right now I have folders and folders of apps on my screens with a few dragged out that are used much more often. Now I could get rid of all of those folders, and pull out the few other apps from them I use regularly and toss a couple widgets in and have a nice custom looking config. In other words, if you didn't realize it, you can now delete apps off the homescreen so they are ONLY in the app drawer.
    Annie_M likes this.
    09-14-2020 11:25 AM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    I’m also just ignoring the App Library. I don’t get how it’s useful.
    I have a core set of apps that I use on my dock, first home screen, and much of my second home screen. The rest of my apps, which I hardly but occasionally use, are just disorganized mostly on the last three home screens. I never launch them from my home screen - its faster to search for them for when I want to use them. I'm looking forward to app library, at least so that those apps are just stored away on my third and last home screen. It will definitely reduce my home screens, make the last one look organized, and I don't have to do a thing to make them look that way.
    09-14-2020 11:33 AM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    I have a core set of apps that I use on my dock, first home screen, and much of my second home screen. The rest of my apps, which I hardly but occasionally use, are just disorganized mostly on the last three home screens. I never launch them from my home screen - its faster to search for them for when I want to use them. I'm looking forward to app library, at least so that those apps are just stored away on my third and last home screen. It will definitely reduce my home screens, make the last one look organized, and I don't have to do a thing to make them look that way.
    But they’re stored according to how Apple wants to store them. There is no way to organize them the way you would want. Therefore, I continue to store apps in folders so I know where they are. Also you shouldn’t have to swipe to the last page to get to the app drawer. Just my thoughts.
    09-14-2020 12:07 PM
  14. doogald's Avatar
    But they’re stored according to how Apple wants to store them. There is no way to organize them the way you would want. Therefore, I continue to store apps in folders so I know where they are. Also you shouldn’t have to swipe to the last page to get to the app drawer. Just my thoughts.
    That's perfect for me. I don't care how they're organized. Any organization is better than having to stay on top of apps which I periodically install and use rarely/occasionally. I'll still search for them most of the time when I want to use them.

    Open Table is a perfect example of an app like this. I use it maybe once every month or two. I still want the app, I just don't need to see where it is, organize it into a folder somehow, etc.
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    09-14-2020 12:10 PM
  15. FFR's Avatar
    But they’re stored according to how Apple wants to store them. There is no way to organize them the way you would want. Therefore, I continue to store apps in folders so I know where they are. Also you shouldn’t have to swipe to the last page to get to the app drawer. Just my thoughts.
    Yup. They do it so we don’t have to.

    Kind of like how chef prepares your food in a restaurant, so you don’t have to. Some chefs don’t even take orders, you just sit and they take care of everything, those restaurants are much more expensive as well, if you can actually get a reservation.

    That of course is in stark contrast to McDonald’s or Burger King “having it your way “

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...t%20your%20way
    doogald likes this.
    09-14-2020 12:45 PM
  16. TgeekB's Avatar
    Yup. They do it so we don’t have to.

    Kind of like how chef prepares your food in a restaurant, so you don’t have to. Some chefs don’t even take orders, you just sit and they take care of everything, those restaurants are much more expensive as well, if you can actually get a reservation.

    That of course is in stark contrast to McDonald’s or Burger King “having it your way “

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...t%20your%20way
    I will now be forever grateful to Apple for saving me the effort of arranging apps the way I want them and for restaurants that tell me what I want to eat. Who would have known? 🤣
    09-14-2020 01:20 PM
  17. FFR's Avatar
    I will now be forever grateful to Apple for saving me the effort of arranging apps the way I want them and for restaurants that tell me what I want to eat. Who would have known?
    It’s not a matter of gratuity, but time and effort.
    Those with a lot of time and those without.

    As for the restaurant, if you have never been to a restaurant that has no menu, you are missing out. The food is always impeccable, you know because the chef does all the work so you don’t have to, that usually costs extra.


    I guess you have you never been to a restaurant or event with a set menu either. It’s not as foreign of a concept as you make it out to be.
    09-14-2020 01:38 PM
  18. Chuck_IV's Avatar
    I think people are misunderstanding the intent behind the app library. I think it's meant to be a place to hold all of your apps whether you use them constantly or just say once every few months or something but don't want to uninstall them. It leaves you free to finally clean up and organize your homescreen(s) much more (as much as you can at least without being able to move apps around outside of the locked down grid where you can't create empty space). Yes it autogroups them, but you can easily search them just like the spotlight search you can do on 13 and earlier, or you can get that alphabetical listing which I think is even better.

    Right now I have folders and folders of apps on my screens with a few dragged out that are used much more often. Now I could get rid of all of those folders, and pull out the few other apps from them I use regularly and toss a couple widgets in and have a nice custom looking config. In other words, if you didn't realize it, you can now delete apps off the homescreen so they are ONLY in the app drawer.
    I’m fine with the search/full list, that is much appreciated, but the groupings are a complete mess. I have 3 or 4 folders with just 1 app in it yet they are similar to other apps that are grouped. Their groupings and placement of apps is all over the place.

    I understand it is a new feature, but just like iOS 14 on my iPad(can’t place widget on the home screen at all... are you kidding?), it seems like a half hearted effort at an app library. They should have at least let us create new/rename groups and move icons from one group to another.
    09-14-2020 05:39 PM
  19. Tartarus's Avatar
    I’m fine with the search/full list, that is much appreciated, but the groupings are a complete mess. I have 3 or 4 folders with just 1 app in it yet they are similar to other apps that are grouped. Their groupings and placement of apps is all over the place.

    I understand it is a new feature, but just like iOS 14 on my iPad(can’t place widget on the home screen at all... are you kidding?), it seems like a half hearted effort at an app library. They should have at least let us create new/rename groups and move icons from one group to another.
    I have always been against an App Library, so I don’t mind that it’s a mess.
    I’m used to have all apps in Home Screens and hate the fact that it is now possible to have apps there or here or here and there. I won’t be hiding apps from my Home Screen anytime soon.
    09-14-2020 10:26 PM
  20. mumfoau's Avatar
    I like it overall. Just can’t wait until the app categorization settles down. Several times since the beta started categories have changed which requires learning where my apps are again.
    09-15-2020 03:50 AM
  21. calebt's Avatar
    Not overly excited about it. I think they did a better layout than Android app drawer.
    09-15-2020 05:50 AM
  22. Chuck_IV's Avatar
    I have always been against an App Library, so I don’t mind that it’s a mess.
    I’m used to have all apps in Home Screens and hate the fact that it is now possible to have apps there or here or here and there. I won’t be hiding apps from my Home Screen anytime soon.
    Why would you be against an app library? This makes no sense to me at all.

    Even with the app library, you can still only have one occurrence on the icon on your home screen, exactly like before. So nothing at all has changed with the home screen except being able to place widgets and the addition of one extra page. The app library just gives you another avenue to find your apps.
    carrickfergus likes this.
    09-15-2020 08:24 AM
  23. carrickfergus's Avatar
    It’s been my favorite feature of iOS 14. Eliminated 3 home screens from my 11 Pro.
    flyinion and mumfoau like this.
    09-15-2020 08:50 AM
  24. Ed7789's Avatar
    The App Library allowed me to eliminate a couple of useless folders on my Home Screen.

    But, I never use it. I always swipe down and type the name of the app I’m searching for.
    calebt and doogald like this.
    09-15-2020 11:35 AM
  25. calebt's Avatar
    It’s been my favorite feature of iOS 14. Eliminated 3 home screens from my 11 Pro.
    I know, I’m thinking of doing away with my folders.
    mumfoau likes this.
    09-15-2020 11:55 AM
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