1. Tartarus's Avatar
    Over the years I have collected more than a few dozen wifi passwords all over Europe. And since there is no way to backup those passwords or see them in an overview, I'm reluctant to perform a network settings restore.

    Has anyone here an idea whether iCloud Keychain will have those passwords saved as well so I don't have to insert them one by one again when connecting to previous wifi spots?
    Last edited by Tartarus; 06-19-2016 at 09:52 PM.
    08-29-2015 12:53 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    If your authentication to those is via a web based interface keychain should remember them.
    08-29-2015 01:55 PM
  3. Tartarus's Avatar
    Nope, it's a regular wifi I logged in to. I.e. : friends, family, shops and so. I'm not worried about those web based wifi spots.
    08-29-2015 01:59 PM
  4. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Nope, it's a regular wifi I logged in to. I.e. : friends, family, shops and so. I'm not worried about those web based wifi spots.
    You can look and see what's in Keychain. They will remain there unless you delete them. You won't lose them in a reset.
    08-29-2015 09:38 PM
  5. Tartarus's Avatar
    I did, it only shows passwords for websites. This means I will not perform a network settings restore soon unless necessary
    08-29-2015 09:42 PM
  6. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Resetting your network settings should have no effect on your iCloud Keychain passcode listing for websites. It will however, reset your Wi-Fi networks and passwords, cellular settings, as well as VPN and APN settings that youve used before. In other words, it resets your network-related settings to their native state. It has absolutely nothing to do with websites and their associated passwords.
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    08-29-2015 09:54 PM
  7. Tartarus's Avatar
    That's exactly what I thought, D. However, I was hoping iCloud Keychain would save wifi passwords as well. That's why I started this thread, to be sure. And now I am.

    Thanks all for your input.
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    08-29-2015 09:58 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    That's exactly what I thought, D. However, I was hoping iCloud Keychain would save wifi passwords as well. That's why I started this thread, to be sure. And now I am.

    Thanks all for your input.
    You're very welcome.......Anyway, according to the Apple, iCloud Keychain keeps your Safari website usernames and passwords, credit card information, and Wi-Fi network information up to date across all of your approved devices that are using iOS 7.0.3 or later or OS X Mavericks v10.9 or later. However, from what I could see, it did not state what all is included in the 'Wi-Fi network information'.

    Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204085
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    08-29-2015 10:14 PM
  9. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    That's exactly what I thought, D. However, I was hoping iCloud Keychain would save wifi passwords as well. That's why I started this thread, to be sure. And now I am.

    Thanks all for your input.
    You misunderstood. It does keep your wifi passwords safe if they are entered there. What a reset does is unhooks the password from wifi in Settings. So you go to Keychain, get the password, and enter it back in in Settings.
    08-29-2015 10:30 PM
  10. Tartarus's Avatar
    Spence, I looked in Settings > Safari > Passwords and I didn't see any wifi passwords over there.

    And I doubt I will see it after restoring Network Settings.
    08-29-2015 10:51 PM
  11. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Spence, I looked in Settings > Safari > Passwords and I didn't see any wifi passwords over there.

    And I doubt I will see it after restoring Network Settings.
    WiFi passwords will not go in Keychain. Only passwords used in Safari will go there. When you log in to a site or whatever in Safari, it will ask you if you want to save it to Keychain. Other passwords entered elsewhere won't get that option. You entered your wifi passwords in Settings, not Safari. So they are not saved in Keychain. You will need to use a password keeper app to store those not included in Keychain. Like 1Password. Regardless, any passwords you do have in Keychain will remain there if you do a reset or a restore as new. I restored my phone last spring as new. My Keychain passwords were still there afterwards.
    08-30-2015 10:12 AM
  12. Tartarus's Avatar
    Yup, exactly what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation.

    It was just wishful thinking of me.

    But i still think  should make this possible in the future, though
    08-30-2015 10:16 AM
  13. robertk328's Avatar
    WiFi passwords will not go in Keychain.
    According to the FAQ posted above, they will:

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204085

    What is iCloud Keychain?
    iCloud Keychain keeps your Safari website usernames and passwords, credit card information, and Wi-Fi network information up to date across all of your approved devices that are using iOS 7.0.3 or later or OS X Mavericks v10.9 or later.

    So theoretically they should be there -- just how to check and make sure they're safely saved before resetting. I know after resetting network settings I've had to re-enter them, which surprised me. Though I do recall having a wifi password on my phone and it showing up on my iPad when going to the same location, but it's been a while and my memory could be fuzzy
    10-11-2015 08:46 AM
  14. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    According to the FAQ posted above, they will:

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204085

    What is iCloud Keychain?
    iCloud Keychain keeps your Safari website usernames and passwords, credit card information, and Wi-Fi network information up to date across all of your approved devices that are using iOS 7.0.3 or later or OS X Mavericks v10.9 or later.

    So theoretically they should be there -- just how to check and make sure they're safely saved before resetting. I know after resetting network settings I've had to re-enter them, which surprised me. Though I do recall having a wifi password on my phone and it showing up on my iPad when going to the same location, but it's been a while and my memory could be fuzzy
    They will if added in Safari. But I've never seen the option to add to Keychain in Settings.
    10-11-2015 11:12 AM
  15. robertk328's Avatar
    They will if added in Safari. But I've never seen the option to add to Keychain in Settings.
    I would imagine it just saves them all.
    10-11-2015 11:24 AM
  16. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I would imagine it just saves them all.
    No, it doesn't. Only passwords or passcode used in Safari. If I open a new app and create an account with email and password, none of it goes to Keychain. But if I log in on that same online in Safari, then the option to save to Keychain is offered.
    10-11-2015 01:02 PM
  17. robertk328's Avatar
    No, it doesn't. Only passwords or passcode used in Safari. If I open a new app and create an account with email and password, none of it goes to Keychain. But if I log in on that same online in Safari, then the option to save to Keychain is offered.
    How do you enter wifi passwords in safari? The FAQ says wifi, not specifically website/safari passwords.
    10-11-2015 06:11 PM
  18. robertk328's Avatar
    No, it doesn't. Only passwords or passcode used in Safari. If I open a new app and create an account with email and password, none of it goes to Keychain. But if I log in on that same online in Safari, then the option to save to Keychain is offered.
    More from the FAQ:

    "Are my existing saved passwords, Wi-Fi networks, and Internet accounts included in iCloud Keychain?
    Yes. When you turn on iCloud Keychain, any previously-saved website usernames and passwords, Wi-Fi networks, and Internet accounts are automatically included in iCloud Keychain."

    Never seen where wifi info is entered in safari. Where do you do that?
    10-11-2015 06:13 PM
  19. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    More from the FAQ:

    "Are my existing saved passwords, Wi-Fi networks, and Internet accounts included in iCloud Keychain?
    Yes. When you turn on iCloud Keychain, any previously-saved website usernames and passwords, Wi-Fi networks, and Internet accounts are automatically included in iCloud Keychain."

    Never seen where wifi info is entered in safari. Where do you do that?
    I go to the Comcast website. I can log in, change the wifi password, username and etc.
    10-12-2015 08:19 AM
  20. robertk328's Avatar
    10-12-2015 08:57 PM
  21. Ledsteplin's Avatar
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    You asked a question and I answered it. What's sarcastic about it? When you log on to your wifi in Settings, it's not added to Keychain. My wifi name and password did not go to Keychain when I set it up. Is yours there? Look in your Keychain and see! My Comcast log in credentials are there because I logged in on Safari to pay my bill. I showed you how it can be added in Safari. What's sarcastic about that?
    10-13-2015 10:06 AM
  22. Tartarus's Avatar
    WiFi passwords are saved to network settings.
    Passwords to websites via Safari are saved to Keychain if you approve that.
    Resetting network settings removes all your network settings including passwords. That's independent of Keychain.

    That's been my experience.


    Sent from my GORGEOUS, SEXY, AWESOME Rose Gold 128G iPhone 6s Plus
    Yep, that's what I thought. Thanks everybody for your input in the thread.
    10-13-2015 11:28 AM
  23. robertk328's Avatar
    You asked a question and I answered it. What's sarcastic about it? When you log on to your wifi in Settings, it's not added to Keychain. My wifi name and password did not go to Keychain when I set it up. Is yours there? Look in your Keychain and see! My Comcast log in credentials are there because I logged in on Safari to pay my bill. I showed you how it can be added in Safari. What's sarcastic about that?
    It was (mostly) tongue in cheek ... but I may have been feeling feisty at the time. The faq I quoted seems to indicate wifi / network I do NOT form fill data. So having a wifi network in one device should theoretically share that data/login with other devices on the same iCloud ID. That's what I was getting to, not whether safari would save form fill info because to me that isn't the same as network information.

    I also seem to recall when keychain was announced that it was for not only website passwords but other data, such as wifi networks. I've had a bit of time to search for that but not much beyond the somewhat vague faq quote I already provided above.

    Edit: here are two links pointing to what I was referring to:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/...works.1673907/

    http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/115...=1444778696782
    Last edited by robertk328; 10-13-2015 at 07:26 PM.
    10-13-2015 07:14 PM
  24. robertk328's Avatar
    I seem to recall the same.... logging out of keychain and back in is supposed to restore them but not sure I want to go through the hassle of checking Maybe it works when restoring - may try that with my iPad as I don't rely on it as much as my iPhone and it would be easier to test and set up again if I had to.
    10-15-2015 05:48 AM
  25. robertk328's Avatar
    When you log on to your wifi in Settings, it's not added to Keychain. My wifi name and password did not go to Keychain when I set it up. Is yours there? Look in your Keychain and see!
    Restored my phone as new this morning, no backup. Put my home wifi in so I could load a few apps before heading out. Also logged in to iCloud, including keychain.

    When I got to work, it connected to wifi without having to enter any passwords or pick the network.
    10-29-2015 06:55 PM
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