[Adam Chupp]

I want to upgrade my iphone 5s ios 7.0 out of jailbreak and into 7.1 to use the new jailbreak pangu.
Pretty straight forward problem but the real trouble arises when I try to update. When using the iphone update software window I am greeted with a never ending pin wheel of loaderdom. When using the computer, the stupid thing wants to back it up but always says that it cannot complete because backup cannot be stored on computer. I am using a mac. Any help?

Sincerely,
TheChupp

[BreakingKayfabe]

I want to upgrade my iphone 5s ios 7.0 out of jailbreak and into 7.1 to use the new jailbreak pangu.
Pretty straight forward problem but the real trouble arises when I try to update. When using the iphone update software window I am greeted with a never ending pin wheel of loaderdom. When using the computer, the stupid thing wants to back it up but always says that it cannot complete because backup cannot be stored on computer. I am using a mac. Any help?

Sincerely,
TheChupp

You can't do an OTA update on the iPhone itself because the jailbreak prevents it. You can decline the backup. Or, you could just put the phone in DFU mode and iTunes wouldn't have anything to backup. Just be sure you have an iCloud backup to restore for when it updates.

[ajl]

Download the update through iTunes. You should be prompted whenever you connect an 'out of date' iPhone. Restore your phone and update it on your computer. Then you can proceed with Pangu.

[Adam Chupp]

I want a full back up but a full back up, as far as I know, on icloud is impossible. just data backups. i want to back it up on my computer. Is there a way to do this whether it be through itunes or a third party application?

[BreakingKayfabe]

I want a full back up but a full back up, as far as I know, on icloud is impossible. just data backups. i want to back it up on my computer. Is there a way to do this whether it be through itunes or a third party application?

A full backup on iTunes and iCloud are the same. It's not just data. It's how you had everything set up like the organization of your app icons, camera roll, app data, etc.

When on your phone when you go into settings-icloud scroll down to the bottom and go to "Storage and backup" and you'll see what I mean. It gives you a full backup of your phone and not just things like Contacts, mail, etc.

[Jessicalt1]

iCloud seems to be a better backup in my opinion. iTunes doesn't put everything back, u have to sync some data over.

[BreakingKayfabe]

iCloud seems to be a better backup in my opinion. iTunes doesn't put everything back, u have to sync some data over.

What doesn't itunes put back? iTunes is just a faster way of restoring without requiring Wifi.

[Jessicalt1]

It doesn't put back music or apps for example. U have to go in and manually redownload them whereas iCloud restores it exactly how u had it to begin with.

[BreakingKayfabe]

It doesn't put back music or apps for example. U have to go in and manually redownload them whereas iCloud restores it exactly how u had it to begin with.

When you backup on iTunes you're backing up the apps and music and those things are stored on iTunes which makes it easier to restore instead of using bandwith to re-download. Also makes it the restore that much quicker. I recommend people backup on both if they can. If not, of course iCloud is the best thing you can do.

[natasftw]

If you want to jailbreak, remove the idea of ota updates now. It'll only complicate things.

[Jessicalt1]

When you backup on iTunes you're backing up the apps and music and those things are stored on iTunes which makes it easier to restore instead of using bandwith to re-download. Also makes it the restore that much quicker. I recommend people backup on both if they can. If not, of course iCloud is the best thing you can do.

Why do two steps when iCloud is a smooth one? Personal preference lol.

[BreakingKayfabe]

Why do two steps when iCloud is a smooth one? Personal preference lol.

What two steps? That's fine if it's your personal preference. I came to correct misinformation in your original post saying that an iTunes restore doesn't "put everything back" is all. That's not true at all.

[Jessicalt1]

Well it is if you're speaking specifically towards only restoring a backup. You still have to sync certain info back over and things could have changed on your computer that didn't on your phone. I prefer my phone to be exactly the same when I'm restoring a backup.

[Jessicalt1]

In any case, here's an apple article to help u choose which backup fits your needs. I think we can all agree that keeping it backed up is step one.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5262

[BreakingKayfabe]

Well it is if you're speaking specifically towards only restoring a backup. You still have to sync certain info back over and things could have changed on your computer that didn't on your phone. I prefer my phone to be exactly the same when I'm restoring a backup.

An iCloud backup specifically only restores a backup too.

[Jessicalt1]

An iCloud backup specifically only restores a backup too.

Yes but includes all media and settings which could be invaluable to someone who has since changed computers and may not have access to all of the same data.

[BreakingKayfabe]

Yes but includes all media and settings which could be invaluable to someone who has since changed computers and may not have access to all of the same data.

Well, of course. That's an extreme case.