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To be honest, i love Apple products very much. Over the years, i've own several iPhones, iPods and iPads. The WWDC 2014 event presentation was amazing. Just that i didn't like the part when they put down Android for having such a low percentage of users running their latest software, KitKat at 9% compared IOS 7, which has an impressive 89% adoption. I mean, why put down your rival this way? What kind of marketing tactic is this? Or are you afraid Android will overtake you someday? I'm dissapointed at Apple for this. \:
Sent from my iPhone 5s using iMore Forumsprecon22 and anon(161369) like this.06-04-2014 12:32 AMLike 2 - I'm pretty sure most android fans would admit that as being a flaw. Androids updating system is a complete joke. It took months to get 4.4 on my Note 3 despite it being released months earlier.
And it's not as if no companies ever took jabs at Apple before.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk06-04-2014 12:41 AMLike 5 - Seems pretty simple to me. They put that out there to show that Android is terrible with updates. I'm an avid user of both Android and iOS, I go back and forth between the two a lot, and Android SUCKS for updates if you have anything other than a Nexus. They just want to show people that may be thinking about getting an Android over an iPhone that they may be stuck on an older version of Android compared to the newest version of iOS.06-04-2014 12:50 AMLike 4
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To be honest, i love Apple products very much. Over the years, i've own several iPhones, iPods and iPads. The WWDC 2014 event presentation was amazing. Just that i didn't like the part when they put down Android for having such a low percentage of users running their latest software, KitKat at 9% compared IOS 7, which has an impressive 89% adoption. I mean, why put down your rival this way? What kind of marketing tactic is this? Or are you afraid Android will overtake you someday? I'm dissapointed at Apple for this. \:
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There's a reason you tell developers information like 89% vs 9%. You're helping to solidify the belief that using the latest and greatest programming and APIs offers better opportunity cost on Apple than on Android. Even if Android has 4 times as many phones as Apple on the market, Apple will still have twice the "current generation app development" market share. I know my wording of this isn't the best, but my intent is to impart that the chart featured above has everything to do with developers. Believe me when i say developers care about such numbers.Last edited by CrucialTK; 06-04-2014 at 08:38 AM. Reason: Replace merely with mostly
06-04-2014 08:36 AMLike 6 -
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- Samsung and others have all attacked Apple at some point to bring attention to their own products and services. It's business, and nothing more. To bring attention to something you're trying to promote, not only must you convey a need for it, you must also find a way to diminish your competitors and make your product and service appear as the obvious choice. Business 101...06-04-2014 09:05 AMLike 8
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Remember Samsung's next big thing campaign? Though I must say I miss the "I'm a Mac" ads in the Mac vs Windows era. Too funny.
Sent from my iPhone using iMore Forumsnikkisharif likes this.06-04-2014 09:07 AMLike 1 - Seems pretty simple to me. They put that out there to show that Android is terrible with updates. I'm an avid user of both Android and iOS, I go back and forth between the two a lot, and Android SUCKS for updates if you have anything other than a Nexus. They just want to show people that may be thinking about getting an Android over an iPhone that they may be stuck on an older version of Android compared to the newest version of iOS.
That's one thing about Apple that I really enjoy, no carrier bloatware. I'll put up with Newstand and passbook to avoid all the carrier crap.
~S06-04-2014 10:56 AMLike 3 - What I meant was that when Apple releases a new OS, it is available for applicable devices, users don't have to wait for the carriers to test the update. Windows phone works the same way. Android has this issue due to multiple hardware manufacturers, with the exception of the Nexus line which is not dependent on either manufacturers or carriers06-04-2014 12:50 PMLike 0
- Because if the competing operating system is still in the single digits with their latest software they're opening themselves up to being exposed. It wasn't a "tactic." It was just a good way to further gain developer confidence.Just_Me_D and nikkisharif like this.06-04-2014 12:50 PMLike 2
- Most Android devices are running Gingerbread. That was released 4 years ago...nikkisharif likes this.06-04-2014 01:59 PMLike 1
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- I think it sends a message to the developers that if you update your apps to the new OS, it has a high adoption rate.
Encourages the Devs to work on their apps do that when iOS 8 goes live in the fall, apps are ready to update immediately.
That will then encourage users to update to the new OS sooner.....06-04-2014 02:05 PMLike 3 - I think it sends a message to the developers that if you update your apps to the new OS, it has a high adoption rate.
Encourages the Devs to work on their apps do that when iOS 8 goes live in the fall, apps are ready to update immediately.
That will then encourage users to update to the new OS sooner.....
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To be honest, i love Apple products very much. Over the years, i've own several iPhones, iPods and iPads. The WWDC 2014 event presentation was amazing. Just that i didn't like the part when they put down Android for having such a low percentage of users running their latest software, KitKat at 9% compared IOS 7, which has an impressive 89% adoption. I mean, why put down your rival this way? What kind of marketing tactic is this? Or are you afraid Android will overtake you someday? I'm dissapointed at Apple for this. \:
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I'm pretty sure most android fans would admit that as being a flaw. Androids updating system is a complete joke. It took months to get 4.4 on my Note 3 despite it being released months earlier.
And it's not as if no companies ever took jabs at Apple before.
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Just my $0.02 though.
Edit: When I say "Impossible to get by mistake" I mean, impossible to get without first compromising your phone's security by allowing installing from other sources.06-04-2014 02:26 PMLike 0 - That doesn't bug me as much as their "malware" thing. As, you have to enable third party installs to get like 99.999% of what was shown, I'd even say 100% really. You'd then have to install. There was a huge issue with iOS 4.3.something, and I know it's ancient history by now, but the flaw was what let Jailbreak.Me or whatever the site was Jailbreak iOS devices by simply pointing them to a site, and had minimal user interaction. Basically, there are viruses for both, but they're next to impossible to get by mistake on Android.
I do think the updating is a flaw, and Apple has the clout to cut through carrier non-sense and just push the updates. Jobs was a genius to deny them the ability to load crappy carrier software on the phones from the start, if Android did that, as well as having things more like the GP Editions, then they could get the updates as seamless as iOS.
Just my $0.02 though.
Edit: When I say "Impossible to get by mistake" I mean, impossible to get without first compromising your phone's security by allowing installing from other sources.06-04-2014 02:32 PMLike 0 - That doesn't bug me as much as their "malware" thing. As, you have to enable third party installs to get like 99.999% of what was shown, I'd even say 100% really. You'd then have to install. There was a huge issue with iOS 4.3.something, and I know it's ancient history by now, but the flaw was what let Jailbreak.Me or whatever the site was Jailbreak iOS devices by simply pointing them to a site, and had minimal user interaction. Basically, there are viruses for both, but they're next to impossible to get by mistake on Android.
I do think the updating is a flaw, and Apple has the clout to cut through carrier non-sense and just push the updates. Jobs was a genius to deny them the ability to load crappy carrier software on the phones from the start, if Android did that, as well as having things more like the GP Editions, then they could get the updates as seamless as iOS.
Just my $0.02 though.
Edit: When I say "Impossible to get by mistake" I mean, impossible to get without first compromising your phone's security by allowing installing from other sources.nikkisharif likes this.06-04-2014 02:32 PMLike 1 - As far as the bolded text goes: That is something I cringe over. Now that this is Tim Cook's Apple and we're seeing stuff that we may not have ever seen under Steve Jobs, I really hope carriers aren't able to strong-arm Apple into putting their bloat on iPhones. I didn't like the fact that AT&T was able to get the "4G" logo on the 4S after a .1 update on iOS 5 a couple of years back. The 4G was implicating HSPA+ which was 3G in essence.06-04-2014 02:36 PMLike 0
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To be honest, i love Apple products very much. Over the years, i've own several iPhones, iPods and iPads. The WWDC 2014 event presentation was amazing. Just that i didn't like the part when they put down Android for having such a low percentage of users running their latest software, KitKat at 9% compared IOS 7, which has an impressive 89% adoption. I mean, why put down your rival this way? What kind of marketing tactic is this? Or are you afraid Android will overtake you someday? I'm dissapointed at Apple for this. \:
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It could absolutely be better but it is far, far better for both users and developers than it has been in the past. This isn't Google's fault, the OEMs don't have Apple's clout when it comes to updates, and they love their death grip. The other fault is the chipset manufacturers dropping support for their boards in order to push new silicon. And then there's just the feasibility of support old hardware (like the iPhone 4 being dropped for iOS 8). There's a lot of FUD and disinformation when it comes to Android updates, just thought I would share as someone fairly in the know.
Certainly, Apple does it better. Certainly, Google needs to push for longer and better support. Won't deny that, at least.zhelf likes this.06-04-2014 06:48 PMLike 1
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