1. BitPusher2600's Avatar
    I need a minute folks. It would take a long time to explain myself so instead try to give me the benefit of the doubt. A long story short, I am very extremely anti-Google and try to do whatever I can, no matter how small, to keep any single piece of data, any statistic, any metric whatsoever from Google Inc and it has been burning my arse since the release of BlackBerry 10 that they have Android onboard. I have many years with BlackBerry and actually switched back from a Q10 to my old Bold 9930. For my usage needs, OS 7 worked just fine so I'm OK with being "legacy", but I found out doing some digging that some elements of even BBOS7 utilizes code from Google and the AOSP as well.

    After a many years deep stretch of loyalty to the brand, I just found this out about OS7 today that has screwed my day up to say the very least.

    In this, I'm here to ask if anyone knows anything at all with regards to if there is any code from Google anywhere within iOS, be it an element of the browser, the core of the OS itself, anything? I have no idea what exactly is being utilized in BBOS7 regarding the Android codebase, yet its there. I'm also digging into Windows Phone, I'm that determined to have a mobile OS that does not have even a single line of code from Google onboard if that's even possible.

    PS: I am asking about the OS itself and built-in software (such as the browser), not external/third-party apps and the like.

    I appreciate your time folks. Thank you.
    03-06-2014 02:14 PM
  2. kataran's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore

    I can't answer a question so detailed your asking about lines of code now if your wondering if Google can spy on you thru the Safari browser that would depend on the search engine your using but I'm sure you know these things

    Apple being a strong competitor to Google I would say it's your best bet if your totally against what they stand for


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    03-06-2014 02:38 PM
  3. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    The only google thing that I know of in iOS is that Google is the default search engine. But that is easily changed.
    But as far as actual code, i think it is safe to say that that there is no AOSP code present. However, apple's Safari browser is based on WebKit which Apple open sourced. Google's Chrome browser was originally also WebKit based although they have now forked the code base. It is probably a reasonable assumption that some changes contributed to the WebKit code base before it was forked were done by Google. This also where blackberry may have had exposure to google code because I believe the browser included with BB10 is WebKit based. I don't know about the browser in BB07.
    Microsoft's IE browser is not WebKit based so you're probably safe there from Google code. However, it's probably safe to say that all phone OS's include some open source components and I don't know how you would guarantee that Google never contributed any code to them.
    Last edited by Karenkcoulter; 03-06-2014 at 04:55 PM.
    03-06-2014 04:41 PM
  4. 03_CTD's Avatar
    BlackBerry browser has been WebKit based since BBOS 6.
    03-09-2014 11:37 PM
  5. Amamba's Avatar
    It's funny... Remember how people used to be extremely anti-MS and yet compared to Google, MS is a company that makes money selling actual working products, not mining user data for ads. And Bill Gates is actually a very decent person, if you read about his charity, he's actually trying to make real difference and save people's lives with his money.
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    03-14-2014 01:28 PM
  6. Kashan Osama's Avatar
    I need a minute folks. It would take a long time to explain myself so instead try to give me the benefit of the doubt. A long story short, I am very extremely anti-Google and try to do whatever I can, no matter how small, to keep any single piece of data, any statistic, any metric whatsoever from Google Inc and it has been burning my arse since the release of BlackBerry 10 that they have Android onboard. I have many years with BlackBerry and actually switched back from a Q10 to my old Bold 9930. For my usage needs, OS 7 worked just fine so I'm OK with being "legacy", but I found out doing some digging that some elements of even BBOS7 utilizes code from Google and the AOSP as well.

    After a many years deep stretch of loyalty to the brand, I just found this out about OS7 today that has screwed my day up to say the very least.

    In this, I'm here to ask if anyone knows anything at all with regards to if there is any code from Google anywhere within iOS, be it an element of the browser, the core of the OS itself, anything? I have no idea what exactly is being utilized in BBOS7 regarding the Android codebase, yet its there. I'm also digging into Windows Phone, I'm that determined to have a mobile OS that does not have even a single line of code from Google onboard if that's even possible.

    PS: I am asking about the OS itself and built-in software (such as the browser), not external/third-party apps and the like.

    I appreciate your time folks. Thank you.

    awww another "security" freak here
    03-15-2014 09:28 AM
  7. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    I need a minute folks. It would take a long time to explain myself so instead try to give me the benefit of the doubt. A long story short, I am very extremely anti-Google and try to do whatever I can, no matter how small, to keep any single piece of data, any statistic, any metric whatsoever from Google Inc and it has been burning my arse since the release of BlackBerry 10 that they have Android onboard. I have many years with BlackBerry and actually switched back from a Q10 to my old Bold 9930. For my usage needs, OS 7 worked just fine so I'm OK with being "legacy", but I found out doing some digging that some elements of even BBOS7 utilizes code from Google and the AOSP as well.

    After a many years deep stretch of loyalty to the brand, I just found this out about OS7 today that has screwed my day up to say the very least.

    In this, I'm here to ask if anyone knows anything at all with regards to if there is any code from Google anywhere within iOS, be it an element of the browser, the core of the OS itself, anything? I have no idea what exactly is being utilized in BBOS7 regarding the Android codebase, yet its there. I'm also digging into Windows Phone, I'm that determined to have a mobile OS that does not have even a single line of code from Google onboard if that's even possible.

    PS: I am asking about the OS itself and built-in software (such as the browser), not external/third-party apps and the like.

    I appreciate your time folks. Thank you.
    I'm almost afraid to ask but what do you have against Google?


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    03-15-2014 01:17 PM
  8. qbnkelt's Avatar
    awww another "security" freak here
    No more so than I am. I know BitPusher from several years back and he's got his reasons, as do I, for feeling the way he does. No need for name calling.
    09-14-2014 02:45 PM
  9. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I'm almost afraid to ask but what do you have against Google?


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    We've all got personal choices, lines that we draw, and reasons for them. I've got mine. As an example, I keep my Google experience compartmentalised to one device. That is my choice.

    BitPusher has his own reasons. It would be nice if you could help with his very clearly defined question - to paraphrase, is there any Google code within iOS aside from the default browser, which we can change.
    09-14-2014 02:47 PM
  10. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I need a minute folks. It would take a long time to explain myself so instead try to give me the benefit of the doubt. A long story short, I am very extremely anti-Google and try to do whatever I can, no matter how small, to keep any single piece of data, any statistic, any metric whatsoever from Google Inc and it has been burning my arse since the release of BlackBerry 10 that they have Android onboard. I have many years with BlackBerry and actually switched back from a Q10 to my old Bold 9930. For my usage needs, OS 7 worked just fine so I'm OK with being "legacy", but I found out doing some digging that some elements of even BBOS7 utilizes code from Google and the AOSP as well.

    After a many years deep stretch of loyalty to the brand, I just found this out about OS7 today that has screwed my day up to say the very least.

    In this, I'm here to ask if anyone knows anything at all with regards to if there is any code from Google anywhere within iOS, be it an element of the browser, the core of the OS itself, anything? I have no idea what exactly is being utilized in BBOS7 regarding the Android codebase, yet its there. I'm also digging into Windows Phone, I'm that determined to have a mobile OS that does not have even a single line of code from Google onboard if that's even possible.

    PS: I am asking about the OS itself and built-in software (such as the browser), not external/third-party apps and the like.

    I appreciate your time folks. Thank you.
    Hi there

    I can't answer your question about code but the only thing that I've found within iOS that is Google based is the browser. You can change this.

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    09-14-2014 02:52 PM
  11. Dev from tipb's Avatar
    It depends on what you mean by "any Google code." Google engineers provided, for 2-3 years, more commits than anybody - including Apple - to WebKit, so there will be code written by Googlers in iOS for the foreseeable future.
    11-02-2014 12:21 PM
  12. Rolandh's Avatar
    There's probably some Google code in Mail.app (Mail), Contacts.app (Contacts), Notes.app (Notes), Reminders.app (Reminders) & Calendar.app (Calendar) to allow for Google Accounts to work with the respective Apps, but if you're anti-Google then you're probably safe as it's only going to allow connectivity it's not going to be able to send anything back to Google.

    BB10 has a lot more Google related code since it can run Android Apps Natively through side-loading the Android.apk files.

    Windows Phone probably has the same amount of Google code to allow Google Accounts to integrate with Mail, People & Calendar.

    As long as you don't use any Google services then the code to allow connectivity might as well not even be there (if there is any Google code in that is)

    Roland
    11-03-2014 02:21 PM

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