1. bunjy's Avatar
    I thought this article was very interesting, especially for those that are disappointed that NFC was not included with the 5s.

    09-11-2013 09:58 PM
  2. Alli's Avatar
    Fascinating! This looks like a much better solution than NFC!
    09-12-2013 07:49 AM
  3. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I agree sounds interesting at least. At least I like the idea of indoor maps of big stores. Not as sure of the idea of pushing promos at me.

    It may be an unfortunate name though. Remember the beacon product Facebook tried to add a few years back that would auto inform your friends of purchases you made on certain sites? They had to remove it after the uproar.
    09-12-2013 09:14 AM
  4. bunjy's Avatar
    Reading this article reminds me that Apple always has a larger vision of how a feature will be used in iOS. They don't just add gimmicks that don't really add any value to the user experience.
    09-12-2013 09:58 AM
  5. yaynative's Avatar
    will this be available on all iOS 7 devices or just the 5s?
    09-13-2013 03:42 PM
  6. kch50428's Avatar
    will this be available on all iOS 7 devices or just the 5s?
    Near as I can tell... iBeacon is a low-power bluetooth technology - and is under Bluetooth 4.0 - which is supported by the iPhone5 according to the 5's tech specs.
    09-13-2013 03:52 PM
  7. yaynative's Avatar
    I hope so, a lot of articles keep mentioning it in relation to the 5s.
    09-13-2013 04:02 PM
  8. yzjustdatguy's Avatar
    will this be available on all iOS 7 devices or just the 5s?
    I believe all iPhones with bluetooth 4.0
    09-13-2013 04:08 PM
  9. Dev from tipb's Avatar
    Scoble and others predicted this a while back; no doubt BLE is the reason that Apple has eschewed NFC. However, one definite advantage of BLE would be considered here a *huge* disadvantage had Google been out in front of that. That advantage is range.

    NFC has an effective range of a few centimeters. That certainly can be inconvenient, but on the plus side it means you have to have some intent to exchange information (giving or receiving) by moving close to it.

    Users may like that they can buy from Starbucks without going to the counter, but advertisers are going to like it much more. The BLE spec (and the linked article) talk about notifications being helpfully sent when you are in range. BLE's range can be between 10 and 50 meters, depending on whom you ask. Driving slowly down a city street -- or in a typical shopping mall -- how many times are you going to come within 10-50 meters of a participating store? Granted, you most likely need to have an app installed, but, for example, I have the Subway app, and order through it quite frequently. The BLE spec certainly allows for a situation where Subway could push me something every time I pass by a franchise -- which, at least in America, are just about everywhere. When I stroll down to my local food court to get a burrito, am I going to get a ping from Subway, from Chipotle, from Starbucks, from Macy's, from Sears, and from Apple, simply because I come within 10 meters of all of them every time?

    I'm not sure that tradeoff is worth it.

    What, if any, protections are against that, or is iBeacon going to be as intrusive a location advertising conduit as it seems like it could be?
    09-16-2013 04:44 PM

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