[gameson]

Just curious, in Android, BB10, I can add and remove my WIFI network preferred list. How do I do that in iOS 6?

Thanks.

[Peligro911]

Setting general then reset network settings


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[gameson]

thanks, but that would wipe out everything, including previously saved wifi. I just want to erase one wifi network. how do I do that? Thanks.

[Massie]

If you go into the particular network info (the blue arrow button near the name) there is a Forget This Network button.

[gameson]

I see. Thanks for the suggestion. If I am out of the wifi range, how do I do it?

[Peligro911]

I see. Thanks for the suggestion. If I am out of the wifi range, how do I do it?

You can't do it out of wifi range because then you won't see the network .. There is no list visible to edit


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[gameson]

Yes, I know that, hence the question... that kinda sucks that only iOS does not allow preferred list for Wifi. all other OS do that. I wonder if iOS 7 still have this same feature?

You can't do it out of wifi range because then you won't see the network .. There is no list visible to edit


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[Peligro911]

Yes, I know that, hence the question... that kinda sucks that only iOS does not allow preferred list for Wifi. all other OS do that. I wonder if iOS 7 still have this same feature?

I'm on ios 7 no it does not


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[Massie]

Maybe I'm missing the usefulness of a preferred list...with Ask To Join Networks turned Off, my wifi only joins networks I've told it to join—but after I've joined once it will join automatically the next time I'm within range. What does a "preferred network" do differently?

[Fausty82]

Maybe I'm missing the usefulness of a preferred list...with Ask To Join Networks turned Off, my wifi only joins networks I've told it to join—but after I've joined once it will join automatically the next time I'm within range. What does a "preferred network" do differently?

Exactly...

[gameson]

the Wifi preferred network list would allow you to delete a network manually when out of range (cleaning up your saved network. if you travel a lot and use a wifi network only once, then your phone will end up with many wifi networks), also allow to rank your wifi based on your priority.

Sure, you can delete a network by going to 'forget this network', but that only happens when the network is in your range. do you want to manually remove a network each time you are about to leave?

I usually clean up my preferred wifi list on my laptop (windows), BBRY, and my Android tablet once a week or so.

Maybe I'm missing the usefulness of a preferred list...with Ask To Join Networks turned Off, my wifi only joins networks I've told it to join—but after I've joined once it will join automatically the next time I'm within range. What does a "preferred network" do differently?

[Fausty82]

the Wifi preferred network list would allow you to delete a network manually when out of range (cleaning up your saved network. if you travel a lot and use a wifi network only once, then your phone will end up with many wifi networks), also allow to rank your wifi based on your priority.

Sure, you can delete a network by going to 'forget this network', but that only happens when the network is in your range. do you want to manually remove a network each time you are about to leave?

I usually clean up my preferred wifi list on my laptop (windows), BBRY, and my Android tablet once a week or so.

I can’t imagine that saved networks use up that much storage... and as someone suggested, resetting your network settings will clear up the issue, if there is one... but with that said, there’s no need to create a problem when none really exist, IMHO.

[gameson]

if you travel often and use wifi whenever you are, you will end up with many wifi network in the list. imagine if you have 100 wifi network on your list. when you turn it on, the wifi will first go through 100 of your list before declare it no wifi connection (that's how wifi saved network list works). It will take time to scan through 100 wifi networks. while if you clean it up once in a while (delete one wifi manually), it would take less time for a OS (android, BBRY, windows) to connect a wifi in the preferred list.

you can do the 'reset network settings' like peligro911 said, but then it would erase all your wifi networks, and you have to set up one by one again.

it's not a problem, i never said it's a problem, i was just asking if there is a way to clear it.

I can’t imagine that saved networks use up that much storage... no need to create a problem when none really exist, IMHO.

[kch50428]

you can do the 'reset network settings' like peligro911 said, but then it would erase all your wifi networks, and you have to set up one by one again.

it's not a problem, i never said it's a problem, i was just asking if there is a way to clear it.

Yes, there is a way to clear it... reset network settings... and adding back the ones in places you frequent seems to me to be no more or less onerous than your desired solution of some means of a selective edit on a list...

[gameson]

lol, why are you guys defending iOS so much? This is not my desired solution, other OS (windows, Android, BBRY) has wifi preferred list. if no OS uses it, yes, it's my desired solution. I was just merely asking, no need to defend iOS like I am bashing it. I use iPhone as well.

Yes, there is a way to clear it... reset network settings... and adding back the ones in places you frequent seems to me to be no more or less onerous than your desired solution of some means of a selective edit on a list...

[Just_Me_D]

lol, why are you guys defending iOS so much? This is not my desired solution, other OS (windows, Android, BBRY) has wifi preferred list. if no OS uses it, yes, it's my desired solution. I was just merely asking, no need to defend iOS like I am bashing it. I use iPhone as well.

Who's defending it? I thought they were merely answering your question and offering suggestions.

[kch50428]

lol, why are you guys defending iOS so much? This is not my desired solution, other OS (windows, Android, BBRY) has wifi preferred list. if no OS uses it, yes, it's my desired solution. I was just merely asking, no need to defend iOS like I am bashing it. I use iPhone as well.

You asked a question - got an answer, and are displeased with the answer you get... smh...

go here: Apple - iPhone - Feedback -- tell them they way Apple/iOS handles previously used wifi hotspots displeases you...

[Fausty82]

lol, why are you guys defending iOS so much? This is not my desired solution, other OS (windows, Android, BBRY) has wifi preferred list. if no OS uses it, yes, it's my desired solution. I was just merely asking, no need to defend iOS like I am bashing it. I use iPhone as well.

Just because it is not your desired solution, does that make it a non-solution? You asked a question, you didn’t like the answer, and now you say that we’re defending iOS? It’s a fact that the way only to clear the "preferred network" list (your term, not Apple's) is to reset the network settings. Frankly, there’s nothing more to say.

[Peligro911]

lol, why are you guys defending iOS so much? This is not my desired solution, other OS (windows, Android, BBRY) has wifi preferred list. if no OS uses it, yes, it's my desired solution. I was just merely asking, no need to defend iOS like I am bashing it. I use iPhone as well.

Like I said good bad or ugly that is the only way .. On ios even up to ios7 to clear it the best solution would do a reset once a week and then re add your home wifi or whatever you use most that seems faster then manually going thru a list anyways.
Out of being curious could you not clear it once you think the list gets pretty big then time it and them clear it and time it again .. I'm curious to see how much time scanning it actually adds


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[iLearn]

Preferred Network Lists (PNLs) are an actual term in Wi-Fi networking. I think gameson's question is totally valid from a security point of view.

Ask yourself this question: how does your iDevice connect to an AirPort or any other wireless access point when that WAP is configured with a Hidden SSID? (Some marketing boffins call these Cloaked SSIDs.) A WAP configured with a Hidden SSID does not broadcast its identity so it will not show up as a network in a new user's Wi-Fi Settings.

The answer is: all Wi-Fi devices transmit the SSIDs of their PNLs on a periodic basis as an "Are you there?" type of request. WAPs that recognize their own SSID will respond so that authentication and connection will commence.

From a security point of view this is not ideal. Anyone with a Wi-Fi sniffer could see all of the SSIDs that a given user has connected to previously. And because the user's own MAC address is included the sniffer now has a unique cookie with which to track the user as they move around. I think Apple is doing their users a great disservice by failing to provide a list of out-of-range networks that in which their users can edit/delete items.

PNL leakage is not a new problem. Even Microsoft released a patch for Windows XP SP2 and later to address this with Group Policy... back in 2006.

Sure, on iOS you can go to Settings > General > Reset and click on Reset Network Settings, but that loses every WAP configuration you have as well as all of your VPN connections and network credentials. Have you ever tried setting up a half-dozen or so VPN connections from scratch on iOS?

[Stephen Russell]

Exactly. The SSID probes broadcast by phones are a major security issue, particularly if you've used open wifi networks at some stage in the past. If you don't believe me, go and buy a Pineapple. :-)

I too would like a way to remove networks from my list.

[dasPyrex]

This is a problem:

My router crashed. I can't use the same network name because I can't forget the old network and reset the parameters for that specific network to connect to the new router. I would like to keep all of the other networks as I don't have 30 passwords memorized.

[WieRok]

I recently stayed at a resort where this presented as an issue. Their network in public areas had the same SSID as the in room WiFi -
But the in-room AP was not secured and the public area was. Obviously not configured properly. In order to connect to the public area wifi, I would have to forget in-room and vice-Versa. I also recently saw a news bit on the security issue and people learning how to fish out data from iOS and other WiFI devices.

[Jaguarr40]

He has his good and valid points and concerns and so did all of the people here who took time to help him with an answer and that's it. He can take their advice or not but no need to talk down about the fact that there is no list. You can accept the advice or not and let it go at that. This was very simple that just got out of hand in what the OP felt as opposed to the ones that gave him the real scoop. Good luck and hope it works out for you.

[joloriquelme]

Just came here to post my experience:

In my country, and I bet so many other places, many people have their W-Fi networks configured with people's names in the SSID. Could be their own names, child's, or even the pets.

"Felipe"
"Pamela"
"Carolina"
"Jorge"

Because they are very common names here in Chile, many networks everywhere have the same SSID, with different passwords obviously. And I have a lot of friends that use these kinds of names in their homes.

So... You will say "OK, you have more than one friend with the same name, and when you're go to their homes, you have to "forget" the network so you can use it. And, when you return to the other friend's house, you have to do it again...".

Well, the problem goes very beyond and far more complicated than that.

When I'm driving and using Waze on my iPhone, every time I'm stop on a stop sign, on a red light or even just driving near to a house or an apartment with some of these SSIDs, a popup appear into the screen blocking the app asking for the password. Believe me, it's very annoying.

This situation appears to be more frequently on iOS 8, I don't know why.

So, even with "reseting default values" and erasing all networks doesn't even resolve the issue, beucase I need to mantain those Wi-Fi profiles. I can't delete the settings everytime I left those SSIDs.

iOS, even with 8 versions, still had these kind of problems. But, with a simple Wi-Fi manage list, life could be very more easy.

Cheers and sorry for my english.