1. hollidizzle's Avatar
    How do you guys feel about iOS9 and this new "rootless" kernel that will make jailbreaking even harder. I totally DON'T agree with it... I rarely agree with anything Apple does though but I love IOS...

    I just think Apple is worried about the wrong things. I understand that in a perfect world we would want a super secure OS where nudes and bank account info is invincible. I get that. But don't penalize the jailbreaking community. A lot of users (such as myself) love IOS, but what we love even more is a JAILBROKEN IOS. I imagine a good percentage of jailbreakers don't jailbreak to pirate apps, or steal nudes, etc- we just want features and functions that aren't present in stock IOS. Even more, sometimes we just like to play with or "tinker" with our devices, or at least have the option to do so.

    How long have we been begging for a more :"open" OS? Rather than lock down IOS, open it up more OR offer some sort of "developer edition" iPhone for those of us that like to tinker with our devices. So I'm totally not happy with these new IOS 9 leaks. But these my friends are just my opinions- I understand a lot of people are happy and content with IOS. What are you guy's opinions?
    05-23-2015 08:20 AM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    It is Apple's goal to make iOS as secure as possible on its devices. That, in and of itself, is a good thing. Having said that, it's up to the jailbreak community to find ways to circumvent the operating system. Apple is doing exactly what it is suppose to be doing and I'm glad they are.
    05-23-2015 08:28 AM
  3. iEd's Avatar
    I was reading about this yesterday.
    From my experience with jailbreaking it always made my phone less stable so I look forward to any iOS versions that focuses on stability and security.
    I read that iOS 9 and the new OS X may focus more on stability and performance than features.
    I also read that part of the iOS 9 focus is having it run great on older devices to extend the life of older devices.
    When I did jailbreak I found myself spending more time figuring out issues than I did using the phone.




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    05-23-2015 09:37 AM
  4. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I've never jailbroken my phone. iOS continues to improve each year. To bombard users with too much at one time would leave most people confused. Many can't figure a smartphone out as it is. More functionality and customization are fine, but security is more important. I have a feeling iOS 10 will be a whopper of new stuff. And thanks to iOS 9, it will be stable.
    05-23-2015 10:37 AM
  5. Smply_Rckless's Avatar
    I jumped ship because I was tired of flashing roms or doing a million different tweaks to get my phone to run how I want. I've thought about jail breaking, but figured, there's no point to me because it runs how I like now. Jail break is tempting though. Hopefully they keep it an option for everyone who does enjoy it.


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    05-23-2015 11:48 AM
  6. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I jumped ship because I was tired of flashing roms or doing a million different tweaks to get my phone to run how I want. I've thought about jail breaking, but figured, there's no point to me because it runs how I like now. Jail break is tempting though. Hopefully they keep it an option for everyone who does enjoy it.


    Tapatalk'n On The IPhone 6 Plus 
    When I had my Android devices, there was not an available ROM that I didn't flash at some point. It became an addiction, and after a while, I ended up going back to stock. Then I opted to return to iOS and although I've considered it a time or two, I flat out refuse to jailbreak because I do not want to spend time tweaking just to later discover that it's already nearly perfect for me as-is...
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    05-23-2015 11:53 AM
  7. Smply_Rckless's Avatar
    When I had my Android devices, there was not an available ROM that I didn't flash at some point. It became an addiction, and after a while, I ended up going back to stock. Then I opted to return to iOS and although I've considered it a time or two, I flat out refuse to jailbreak because I do not want to spend time tweaking just to later discover that it's already nearly perfect for me as-is...
    That's exactly how I was. When I first purchased an Android device. It was countless hours of tweaking & customizing. Then once I discovered how to root it just became too much. I'm still on the fence of jail breaking but the iPhone runs perfectly fine, there's a few things I'd like to change but I can live with how it is now.


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    05-23-2015 07:39 PM
  8. hollidizzle's Avatar
    But there still are some people that DO like to jailbreak. I just think it should be an option for those that do. I think some sort of "developer edition" device would be dope for those of us that would like to purchase that
    05-24-2015 04:37 AM
  9. tapehead's Avatar
    I understand Apple's point of view on this. But I do think they're being a bit paranoid. I mean, let's just be real... most people use the jailbreak to change fonts, icons, and layouts or to do something like wi-fi tethering. It's a bit extreme.
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    05-24-2015 05:56 AM
  10. acerace113's Avatar
    I'm sure someone will break it


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    05-24-2015 11:06 AM
  11. Bigeric23's Avatar
    I don't jailbreak my iOS devices, so . . . that is fine with me. I just want my gadgets to work.
    05-24-2015 01:25 PM
  12. Polde911's Avatar
    Love it
    05-24-2015 01:26 PM
  13. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Rooting/Jailbreaking is something I consider a feature. I love to tinker though.

    Having said that, as already noted, this is what I'd expect Apple to do. It should look to make its stuff as secure as possible.
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    05-24-2015 04:01 PM
  14. HankAZ's Avatar
    Bottom line: it's Apple's OS, and they can do anything to/with it that they choose. I would be hard pressed to call 'jailbreaking' a feature. It's more of an exploit of a a software vulnerability. It makes iOS less secure and more vulnerable to being hacked.


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    05-24-2015 04:31 PM
  15. HankAZ's Avatar
    I understand Apple's point of view on this. But I do think they're being a bit paranoid. I mean, let's just be real... most people use the jailbreak to change fonts, icons, and layouts or to do something like wi-fi tethering. It's a bit extreme.
    Agreed, MOST people do use jailbreak to add functionality, but it also makes the OS less secure. It's the actual exploit of a software vulnerable that makes jailbreaking possible. And not everyone has benevolent intentions. A little paranoia is a good thing.
    05-24-2015 04:41 PM
  16. Bigeric23's Avatar
    Bottom line: it's Apple's OS, and they can do anything to/with it that they choose. I would be hard pressed to call 'jailbreaking' a feature. It's more of an exploit of a a software vulnerability. It makes iOS less secure and more vulnerable to being hacked.


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    You're not saying anything I disagree with.
    05-24-2015 04:42 PM
  17. HankAZ's Avatar
    But there still are some people that DO like to jailbreak. I just think it should be an option for those that do. I think some sort of "developer edition" device would be dope for those of us that would like to purchase that
    The problem with this is that it's not an "option" by Apple's choice. Its software vulnerabilities that make it possible. Remember, if those vulnerabilities can be exploited to add functionality, it can also be exploited for ill-intentioned functionality.

    Personally, I want the operating systems that I use to be as secure as possible.
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    05-24-2015 04:44 PM
  18. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Agreed, MOST people do use jailbreak to add functionality, but it also makes the OS less secure. It's the actual exploit of a software vulnerable that makes jailbreaking possible. And not everyone has benevolent intentions. A little paranoia is a good thing.
    Double edged sword, but I'd rather have the ability than not.

    For all my talking, I haven't jailbroken my last two devices, so what do I know.
    Last edited by Tre Lawrence; 05-24-2015 at 05:21 PM.
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    05-24-2015 05:04 PM
  19. shief24's Avatar
    Steal nudes you say?
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    05-24-2015 07:47 PM
  20. sioux21's Avatar
    io can undertsand that rhey want to proect their ****
    05-25-2015 06:08 AM
  21. C6TX6's Avatar
    Cydia or bust.
    Once it's gone for good, so is iOS.
    For me, anyhow.
    05-25-2015 08:01 AM
  22. mikeo007's Avatar
    The fact that jailbreaking requires exploiting several un-intended bugs, I'd say this is a smart move. Jailbreak was never an intended feature, and is nothing but a security liability to the vast majority of users. If there are often used features that are only available via jailbreak, then the correct way to satisfy these users is to implement these features in the core OS.
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    05-25-2015 08:26 AM
  23. hollidizzle's Avatar
    Double edged sword, but I'd rather have the ability than not.

    For all my talking, I haven't jailbroken my last two devices, so what do I know.
    Exactly. I want to at least have the option to.

    And lets be honest, your device is probably more susceptible to theft or other means of getting your info as opposed to a jailbreak exploit... I'm sure Nude-Gate had nothing to do with a jailbreak tweak or exploit. iOS is already one of the most secure if not THEE most secure of the current mobile OS's.
    05-25-2015 08:37 AM
  24. Rockdog97's Avatar
    I love my jailbroke 4s and it's the only reason I dont upgrade to the latest IOS. There are just too many J/B features that I like that are not/wont be available to non-J/B phones. Simple case in point. iBlacklist is a J/B app that isn't available to unbroken phones, yet offers to much that I dont want to give it up. Customization of the notification center, tweaking the Control Center to add just what I want, instead of what Apple "thinks" I want there... Many of the popular J/B apps that we've all come to love wouldn't be a security problem, so why is it these types of apps aren't available to non-J/B users?

    Personally, I'll hang on to my J/B 4s until it dies, then I'll upgraded. Until then.. i'll keep my jailbreak and my 4s.
    05-27-2015 04:21 PM
  25. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    But there still are some people that DO like to jailbreak. I just think it should be an option for those that do. I think some sort of "developer edition" device would be dope for those of us that would like to purchase that
    I think you're looking at this as doom and gloom for jailbreaking all together and I don't think that's the case at all.

    These kids are up 24 hours a day doing endless coding on stuff we'll never understand in a million years while hopped up on caffeine and who knows what else. No matter if it's a rootless kernel, they're going to achieve a jailbreak because they like doing this stuff. It will happen. I'm positive on that.
    05-27-2015 05:22 PM
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