1. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    If it disgusts you so much, then why take so much time out of your day to read and posts comments on it?
    Not much going on in Windows World?
    Looking for a false and fleeting feeling of superiority by putting down others?
    Stockholm Syndrome?
    Lack of sex?
    Halo night was cancelled?
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    09-24-2013 06:48 PM
  2. Les74's Avatar
    Not much going on in Windows World?
    Looking for a false and fleeting feeling of superiority by putting down others?
    Stockholm Syndrome?
    Lack of sex?
    Halo night was cancelled?
    I'm kinda thinking it's the last two more than the others....
    09-24-2013 06:54 PM
  3. TheRewardisCheese's Avatar
    Who told you this? The Apple marketing team? There are already reports of your near-perfect biometric revolutionary security system falling to hackers. Hey, I'm OK with people liking iPhones, but you really gotta tone down the horse****.
    I believe he was referring to the fact that Apple has implemented a near perfect security feature on a phone that could set the tone for how security is implemented on other phones in the future. And as for hackers, well hackers do what they do because, well they're hackers. It was bound to happen sooner or later, and I am sure Apple will find a solution to make this feature better in future updates and iterations.

    The only other phone that I know of (and I have had just about every high end phone in past 4 years) that had anything close (but failed miserably) was the original Motorola Atrix phone. That feature worked about a quarter of the time.

    Also, law enforcement sure seems very happy that Apple has implemented something that actually works and will most likely help to curb theft. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and in SF alone, at least 50%-60% of all theft is related strictly to iphones (and other smartphones). In fact George Gascon (current SF AG) is one of the 2 people who seriously pushed Apple to do something to help curb theft.....so this is a great start to something bigger and better in terms of security.
    09-25-2013 02:02 AM
  4. z33dev33l's Avatar
    There were several phones in 07/08 that had the biometric screening that apple has implemented and it worked excellently on WinMo. No issues at all. It just wasn't practical, even proper facial recognition software (better than Android's sad attempt) would be infinitely better because fingerprint scans are way too easy to dupe, even for a civilian.

    As for the WebOS comments, I never used WebOS but just watched a video and see the card implementation as more an overall OS thing instead of exclusively a multi-tasking screen. WebOS always looked okay but I couldn't settle for the tiny screens.
    09-25-2013 03:41 AM
  5. neurodave's Avatar
    I like the simplicity in Windows phone, and having had a pair of Windows phone devices recently, I have enjoyed them...initially.

    After a few weeks of owning them, the fun goes away. The UI becomes bland and boring, the lack of some apps begins to annoy me, and the fact that the WP community is so small also gets to me. So while WP is something new in a world of smartphones where most UIs are the same, it gets boring rather quickly.

    Just my $0.02.
    09-25-2013 12:30 PM
  6. lush242000's Avatar
    Thanks for sharing. Next.


    Sent from somewhere.
    09-25-2013 03:48 PM
  7. Armada's Avatar
    Everything after the OP's own words: I like making a mockery of others online is irrelevant to me because of those very words.
    Open mockery does not a bias make. Past that opening he's pretty fair to Apple. He makes his opinion clear though, "I don't really like Apple and I don't care what you think." This is a good case of "they say... I say..." You can cover your eyes and not read it, that's your prerogative, but that reason alone doesn't invalidate the review.

    On the other hand, OP, you're pretty charged. You could've kept a lot of snark to yourself instead of peppering every other sentence with "no innovation" and "Apple hipsters." At least you brought up some good points, like people flipping the phone when trying to use the scanner. I wonder how prevalent that will end up being.
    09-25-2013 05:02 PM
  8. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Open mockery does not a bias make. Past that opening he's pretty fair to Apple. He makes his opinion clear though, "I don't really like Apple and I don't care what you think." This is a good case of "they say... I say..." You can cover your eyes and not read it, that's your prerogative, but that reason alone doesn't invalidate the review.

    On the other hand, OP, you're pretty charged. You could've kept a lot of snark to yourself instead of peppering every other sentence with "no innovation" and "Apple hipsters." At least you brought up some good points, like people flipping the phone when trying to use the scanner. I wonder how prevalent that will end up being.
    There are two 5S locally being sold with cracked screens and I don't live in a particularly large or wealthy town. I'm worried about it becoming another case of, "You're holding it wrong."

    I do make my disdain for Apple clear because each time they release anything they release it as though they're the first to do it and the less intelligent eat it up. I have to say, watching that Jobs movie last week likely didn't help.
    09-25-2013 06:45 PM
  9. Grabber5.0's Avatar
    I have to say, if you try to hold the phone only by the end to unlock it, you deserve to break it.
    09-25-2013 07:06 PM
  10. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Open mockery does not a bias make. Past that opening he's pretty fair to Apple. He makes his opinion clear though, "I don't really like Apple and I don't care what you think." This is a good case of "they say... I say..." You can cover your eyes and not read it, that's your prerogative, but that reason alone doesn't invalidate the review.

    On the other hand, OP, you're pretty charged. You could've kept a lot of snark to yourself instead of peppering every other sentence with "no innovation" and "Apple hipsters." At least you brought up some good points, like people flipping the phone when trying to use the scanner. I wonder how prevalent that will end up being.
    I have to say, if you try to hold the phone only by the end to unlock it, you deserve to break it.
    Doesn't mean it won't happen
    09-25-2013 07:23 PM
  11. rdubmu's Avatar
    . PDF support is basically non-existent(or has that changed?)
    Adobe Reader has been available since early this year.


    . Having an app list is ridiculous but I guess it works as WP8 doesn't have too many decent apps.
    I dont think you have used a winsows phone lately, there are a lot of great apps. 6tag in my opinion is better than Instagram for IOS, there are a lot of other apps that have come to the platform.

    The app list I find to he highly efficient. On my iPad I sometimes forget which folder I put an app in.

    Honestly the UI gets even more stale than iOS as there is no backgrounds or anything, just solid color and live-tiles that are basically showing the same things all the time
    I think that with ios7 it is a breath of fresh air. Live tiles in my opinion are always better than static icons. My live tiles show the latest news, weather, email( in large tile format)

    Basically when Microsoft can do nothing except rail on the iPad not having a usb(when Microsoft touts cloud storage at that; completely hypocritical), a keyboard(which is simply untrue, you can get a keyboard for it if you want) and a frickin' kickstand? *LOL* It's absolutely mind-blowingly hilarious.
    Now we are talking about Windows Rt/8, the surface can do a lot more than an iPad can do. For most people an iPad works perfect for them. The surface rt is perfect for high school and college students. It also has office built in which is required for some schools.

    The first big update did nothing(well, it bricked my 920, does that count?).
    Not sure which big update. There hasn't been any big updates.
    The second update brought nothing.
    the Nokia amber update hasn't been release yet for the At&t 920.

    you say that iOS brings nothing new to the table, I have to only laugh.

    did you actually read his review?



    As for the OP, you shouldn't have expected a different response. Maybe just maybe from the moderators but they have a right to their own opinion as well. The moderatos on imore have been very helpful with me on the forums. In your review you started it off sounding like a troll, but if you actually read the rest it is very complimentary of IOS.



    I personally like ios7. I hope they bring back list view in the calendar. I will most likely pick up an iPhone 5s in November when I make the switch to t-mobile.











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    09-25-2013 07:56 PM
  12. Trees's Avatar
    Here's the unfolding parallel universe http://forums.windowscentral.com/app...-ios-7-5s.html
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    09-25-2013 08:28 PM
  13. rdubmu's Avatar
    Yeah, pretty funny. They made some valid points about the comments here outside of the isheep comment which is ridiculous. A lot more tame is all I would say.

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    09-25-2013 09:10 PM
  14. Superjudge's Avatar
    Yeah, pretty funny. They made some valid points about the comments here outside of the isheep comment which is ridiculous. A lot more tame is all I would say.

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    The comments here weren't in relation to the review/critiques per say but from the overall tone of the poster. If you sound like a troll , you'll most likely get treated as one.
    09-26-2013 01:27 AM
  15. z33dev33l's Avatar
    The comments here weren't in relation to the review/critiques per say but from the overall tone of the poster. If you sound like a troll , you'll most likely get treated as one.
    But the same doesn't apply to your members/moderators?
    09-26-2013 02:47 PM
  16. Armada's Avatar
    But the same doesn't apply to your members/moderators?
    To be fair, the Mobile Nations rule says calling anyone a troll is, in itself, a form of trolling. If you have a problem with a user, or even a moderator, I recommend using the reporting feature or getting in touch with a different mod/admin. Just don't expect them to be on your side, especially given the overall tone of the OP and your recent posts. However, it would be nice to have something resolved. I feel like a lot of this thread isn't representative of how users and moderators on iMore usually act, but if you really have a problem take it though an appropriate channel instead of grousing here. It won't help anyone and might spiral into a lock, warns, or even bans.
    09-26-2013 04:44 PM
  17. Superjudge's Avatar
    But the same doesn't apply to your members/moderators?
    It applies to everyone. When you start out your review saying, " I like making a mockery of others online", you are introducing yourself as someone who takes pleasure in ridiculing people on the internet. That immediately tells us you don't respect the people your are trying to communicate with so I find it ironic that you take issue with how you have been treated here. I haven't spent a lot of time over in windows phone forums but I wouldn't expect a warm conversation if I greeted people there with such a comment and then proceeded to trash wiindows mobile just to say I I kind of like the new software. Thanks for sharing your view with us but remember, "Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." (Sir Issac Newton)
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    09-26-2013 06:33 PM
  18. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    There are two 5S locally being sold with cracked screens and I don't live in a particularly large or wealthy town. I'm worried about it becoming another case of, "You're holding it wrong."

    I do make my disdain for Apple clear because each time they release anything they release it as though they're the first to do it and the less intelligent eat it up. I have to say, watching that Jobs movie last week likely didn't help.
    "each time they release anything they release it as though they're the first to do it"
    It's called marketing. ALL companies do this. What do you expect them to say? 'Here's our new device. It's okay I guess. We hope you buy one. Or not. Whatever'.

    "and the less intelligent eat it up".
    Here, you are basically stating that anyone who likes Apple products is stupid.
    And by extension, you are far more intelligent than them.
    This makes you seem not just a troll, but an arrogant troll.

    You come here, talk down to everyone, try to impress people with your vast knowledge and experience, blah blah blah.

    Do you see yourself as a WProphet, here to spread the word among the iHeathens?
    Are you here to make yourself feel superior?
    Or are you just here to stir up sh**?

    Coming here and doing this is like grabbing the mike at an NAACP meeting and saying"I like some things about black people, but it's better being white".
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    09-26-2013 11:27 PM
  19. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Did everyone skip the part where I praised iOS for finally being something other than a launcher for apps and where I said they were headed in the right direction of a real OS or did you all just stop at the point where I called myself a Windows Phone fanboy? I like iOS 7, it's not replacing my Lumia any time soon because my phone is used as a camera probably more than a phone and I still do prefer a larger screen but the OS is finally good and I think they're making personal strides.
    09-27-2013 12:04 AM
  20. rdubmu's Avatar
    But the same doesn't apply to your members/moderators?



    I think by continuing to reply about the way people treated you here including the moderator is just instigating others. Yes I do believe the moderator was out of line but it doesn't matter. I think there are others that have crossed the line in this thread more than you.

    I felt that your post was funny and maybe only suited for WPCentral not more. I agree with one of the posters above that you shouldn't have expected a different response.

    I highly suggest a moderator to close this thread

    -rdubmu
    WPCentral Ambassador




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    09-27-2013 12:25 AM
  21. stalemate1's Avatar
    You should learn more about your phone or read the thread. Siri was not made by Apple, I had it as an app on the 4 long before the 4s came into fruition. It was in the app store for quite some time. Not to mention that Android had one as well. That, and phones have had fingerprint sensors since at least 07/08 when I got my first one.
    My bad...you see I dont know much about phones, all I know is it makes calls and sends texts...why would I want to know anymore.
    09-27-2013 03:04 AM
  22. stalemate1's Avatar
    Oh, you mean I can put more effort into modding my phone than using it because the OS itself as well as the manufacturer support isn't meeting the bar? Android in a nutshell.
    That's if you want a 3D home screen...but the phone takes 3D pictures and videos straight out the box.

    You dont need to root, you just install one app. As for the Optimus 3D it already has a ton of 3D in its interface....have no idea why I chose the EVO 3D over the Optimus 3D.

    But ill let it die here, this is getting no where.
    09-27-2013 03:10 AM
  23. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    Did everyone skip the part where I praised iOS for finally being something other than a launcher for apps and where I said they were headed in the right direction of a real OS or did you all just stop at the point where I called myself a Windows Phone fanboy? I like iOS 7, it's not replacing my Lumia any time soon because my phone is used as a camera probably more than a phone and I still do prefer a larger screen but the OS is finally good and I think they're making personal strides.
    What you call praise sounds like a backhanded compliment to me.

    As someone intimated above, a little tact goes a long way.
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    09-27-2013 05:39 AM
  24. z33dev33l's Avatar
    What you call praise sounds like a backhanded compliment to me.

    As someone intimated above, a little tact goes a long way.
    And then it'd sound like every other half-baked review online. This is from someone who hates Apple and their garbage ideals saying that they actually like the new iPhone. Are you all too prideful to acknowledge the implications there?
    10-01-2013 02:18 PM
  25. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    And then it'd sound like every other half-baked review online. This is from someone who hates Apple and their garbage ideals saying that they actually like the new iPhone. Are you all too prideful to acknowledge the implications there?
    Not sure what implications you're talking about, but I find you harshly judgemental, and I'm losing interest in this.
    10-01-2013 05:21 PM
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