1. Alli's Avatar
    Maybe i'll ask this question because i'm not a developer but i don't understand how can so many things can be screwed up after all thoses years and built a strong iOs 6, they didn't rewrite EVERY single line of the OS... And you can say a lot of things but the major update is graphic.. So don't shoot at me it's just an interrogation, not a critic or something else...

    P.S: An iOs 7 beta 4 user
    Changing a single line of code can make everything go wrong. They've created an entire new SDK, not just updated the graphics. That is what you see on the front. The major developments are under the hood.

    What you're doing is looking at your old blue 4 cylinder Chevy and comparing it to a 6 cylinder red Chevy with built in navigation, OnStar, and backup camera, and only seeing the blue and red.
    07-31-2013 09:58 AM
  2. rlacrossjr's Avatar
    Maybe i'll ask this question because i'm not a developer but i don't understand how can so many things can be screwed up after all thoses years and built a strong iOs 6, they didn't rewrite EVERY single line of the OS... And you can say a lot of things but the major update is graphic.. So don't shoot at me it's just an interrogation, not a critic or something else...

    P.S: An iOs 7 beta 4 user
    Just think of the betas as the final build droid. Ooo going to get if for that. Beta 4 is more stable than droid OS. Bring back memory's of my droid crashes and resets. LOL.


    Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk
    Ipheuria likes this.
    07-31-2013 10:11 AM
  3. Fausty82's Avatar
    Maybe i'll ask this question because i'm not a developer but i don't understand how can so many things can be screwed up after all thoses years and built a strong iOs 6, they didn't rewrite EVERY single line of the OS... And you can say a lot of things but the major update is graphic.. So don't shoot at me it's just an interrogation, not a critic or something else...

    P.S: An iOs 7 beta 4 user
    Clearly, you are not a programmer. It’s doubtful that the folks at Apple rewrote every single line of the OS... but whenever you start rewriting and changing the internals, stuff breaks. The code that makes up iOS (any version) is huge, and complex. There are thousands of "moving parts", and whenever anything is changed, unintended consequences follow. What often times appears to be a simple "tweak" can have major (negative) impact on that or other areas of the code. When redesigning/rewriting an OS, very few of the changes are simple tweaks.

    There are new features, a new SDK, and support for new, yet to be introduced hardware, etc. Stuff happens, and that’s why we test, retest, and test again...
    evorc and Ipheuria like this.
    07-31-2013 10:38 AM
  4. Fausty82's Avatar
    Just think of the betas as the final build droid. Ooo going to get if for that. Beta 4 is more stable than droid OS. Bring back memory's of my droid crashes and resets. LOL.

    Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk
    huh?
    07-31-2013 10:40 AM
  5. evorc's Avatar
    Clearly, you are not a programmer. Its doubtful that the folks at Apple rewrote every single line of the OS... but whenever you start rewriting and changing the internals, stuff breaks. The code that makes up iOS (any version) is huge, and complex. There are thousands of "moving parts", and whenever anything is changed, unintended consequences follow. What often times appears to be a simple "tweak" can have major (negative) impact on that or other areas of the code. When redesigning/rewriting an OS, very few of the changes are simple tweaks.

    There are new features, a new SDK, and support for new, yet to be introduced hardware, etc. Stuff happens, and thats why we test, retest, and test again...
    Thank you! People have no idea the amount of work apple has done with the new ios. What appears simple features to users requires a great deal of backend work. For apple to have accomplish this much changes in the os in few months is truly amazing!!!
    I'm not an expert programmer yet but whenever I add a new feature on my existing program, I have to think thru what areas it will have effect on on the existing code and what adjustments are needed to prevent bugs. So you have to re-think about the program as a whole not just adding new lines. Sometimes you don't necessarily see these bugs right away, or what effects it has on other areas which is why there is Beta!
    Alli and Ipheuria like this.
    07-31-2013 01:58 PM
  6. Dryland's Avatar
    Been seeing some crazy signal fluctuation with this build... Lot's of 1x's vs were I would normally see 3G or even LTE... Seems the radio does not update as fast..
    I'm having the opposite experience... places where I didnt get LTE before, I get it now...
    07-31-2013 02:08 PM
  7. John Yester's Avatar
    Ya 24 hrs was little difficult, but good to see progress...

    Back on 6.1.4

    07-31-2013 02:11 PM
  8. Dryland's Avatar
    Maybe i'll ask this question because i'm not a developer but i don't understand how can so many things can be screwed up after all thoses years and built a strong iOs 6, they didn't rewrite EVERY single line of the OS... And you can say a lot of things but the major update is graphic.. So don't shoot at me it's just an interrogation, not a critic or something else...

    P.S: An iOs 7 beta 4 user
    When API's in the SDK change, they can cause all kinds of weird behavior. Some of the API's have dependencies, and if even one of these gets broken, then thats one way bugs are created. In development, introducing new code will sometimes have an undesired affect. Thats why all companies beta test before releasing to public.
    evorc likes this.
    07-31-2013 02:12 PM
  9. Guacho's Avatar
    just noticed a change on something that was really bugging me, in beta 1,2 and 3 the camera would take a shot as soon as you press the shutter, instead of taking it when the finger is released, this helps a lot in getting better focus when taking pics.
    07-31-2013 03:14 PM
  10. Garz's Avatar
    Ya 24 hrs was little difficult, but good to see progress...

    Back on 6.1.4

    What bugs bothered you the most? I haven't downgraded since beta 1 except for my iPad Mini. This is the first time I have not downgraded the mini....yet.
    07-31-2013 04:26 PM
  11. ninjamattic's Avatar
    My alarms haven't gone off since the update. Possibly just happening to me. Verified the usual, still no worky. iOS 6.1.4 back in action.
    07-31-2013 04:42 PM
  12. BLiNK's Avatar
    My alarms haven't gone off since the update. Possibly just happening to me. Verified the usual, still no worky. iOS 6.1.4 back in action.
    May be a PIA but try restoring as new
    07-31-2013 05:06 PM
  13. BLiNK's Avatar
    used Apple Maps app all day without a hiccup!
    07-31-2013 05:07 PM
  14. Garz's Avatar
    My alarms haven't gone off since the update. Possibly just happening to me. Verified the usual, still no worky. iOS 6.1.4 back in action.
    Yeah try and restore. My alarms have been fine on th i5 and I rely on them everyday to get my **** up for work.
    BLiNK likes this.
    07-31-2013 05:31 PM
  15. BLiNK's Avatar
    Yeah try and restore. My alarms have been fine on th i5 and I rely on them everyday to get my **** up for work.
    same here. which is why i have been hesitant running it full time on my 5
    07-31-2013 06:57 PM
  16. BLiNK's Avatar
    i hope the turn-by-turn voice gets a little louder tho
    07-31-2013 07:10 PM
  17. Peligro911's Avatar
    Yeah try and restore. My alarms have been fine on th i5 and I rely on them everyday to get my **** up for work.
    Use mine also works great


    Sent from my iPhone 5 from a galaxy far far away (in the USA ) using Tapatalk !
    07-31-2013 07:15 PM
  18. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    huh?
    I think the person meant to consider these iOS 7 betas as the final builds
    for Droid devices. Assuming he's speaking of more than one Verizon Droid
    device. Anyhow, I had to read that 100 times before I could attempt to tran-
    slate it to you.
    Ipheuria likes this.
    07-31-2013 08:23 PM
  19. Fausty82's Avatar
    I think the person meant to consider these iOS 7 betas as the final builds
    for Droid devices. Assuming he's speaking of more than one Verizon Droid
    device. Anyhow, I had to read that 100 times before I could attempt to tran-
    slate it to you.
    Glad it wasn’t just me...
    07-31-2013 09:05 PM
  20. SW00BS's Avatar
    when ever I try to sign into iMessage it tells me "An error occurred during activation. Try again" I can't get it working. Am I the only one here? I don't see any posts about this.

    I can still send text messages so it's not a big deal. I just miss the blue background
    07-31-2013 09:29 PM
  21. justinkk2005's Avatar
    when ever I try to sign into iMessage it tells me "An error occurred during activation. Try again" I can't get it working. Am I the only one here? I don't see any posts about this.

    I can still send text messages so it's not a big deal. I just miss the blue background
    My iPad mini is doing the same thing.
    SW00BS likes this.
    07-31-2013 10:36 PM
  22. darrylpierce's Avatar
    I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue with beta 4. When I go into iTunes to search for a song I have no input box. The search screen is filled with the last search I performed before upgrading to Beta 4. The App store search is fine - just iTunes.
    Derrick4Real likes this.
    07-31-2013 10:57 PM
  23. SW00BS's Avatar
    I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue with beta 4. When I go into iTunes to search for a song I have no input box. The search screen is filled with the last search I performed before upgrading to Beta 4. The App store search is fine - just iTunes.
    Yeah me too!
    07-31-2013 11:35 PM
  24. Miguel John1's Avatar
    That happened to me once when I manually tried to set the time on my iPhone forward, I put it back to set time automatically and then when I tried to imessage that message would come up, so I then I noticed imessage needed to be turned on again, because supposedly it turned off, dunno if it's the same situation though
    08-01-2013 05:35 AM
  25. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue with beta 4. When I go into iTunes to search for a song I have no input box. The search screen is filled with the last search I performed before upgrading to Beta 4. The App store search is fine - just iTunes.
    Same here
    Derrick4Real likes this.
    08-01-2013 07:37 AM
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