1. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I know that being subscribed to iTunes Match brings no-ads to iTunes Radio.
    What about unlimited skip? Can anyone confirm this? If it is, I'm just going to
    go ahead and subscribe to iTunes Match.

    Very appreciated.
    06-12-2013 05:02 PM
  2. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    It's not supposed to have unlimited skip. I think it's still 6 skips per channel per hour. I cannot confirm the reality of the skips yet though.

    And just FYI, at least with this beta, iTunes Match subscribers are still getting some ads. Presumably that will change.
    06-12-2013 05:06 PM
  3. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    It's not supposed to have unlimited skip. I think it's still 6 skips per channel per hour. I cannot confirm the reality of the skips yet though.

    And just FYI, at least with this beta, iTunes Match subscribers are still getting some ads. Presumably that will change.
    Really hoping it has unlimited skip. Slacker does this with a subscription. Only problem is that
    Slacker, well, sucks. lol
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    06-12-2013 05:09 PM
  4. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    Really hoping it has unlimited skip. Slacker does this with a subscription. Only problem is that
    Slacker, well, sucks. lol
    Pandora still occasionally limits skips even with a paid account but I think it is less often.

    I haven't seen anything published from Apple talking about this skips for iTunes Match people. I was just relaying what is heard elsewhere.
    06-12-2013 05:10 PM
  5. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Pandora still occasionally limits skips even with a paid account but I think it is less often.

    I haven't seen anything published from Apple talking about this skips for iTunes Match people. I was just relaying what is heard elsewhere.
    Yeah. Pandora definitely limits skips on a paid account. I believe it's also
    six if I'm remembering correctly from the last time I had a paid account
    with them. Which was months ago.
    06-12-2013 05:17 PM
  6. swarlos's Avatar
    Yeah. Pandora definitely limits skips on a paid account. I believe it's also
    six if I'm remembering correctly from the last time I had a paid account
    with them. Which was months ago.
    Can't say anything for the skips yet I'll test it out later today.


    Sent from the collector home world.
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    06-12-2013 05:42 PM
  7. Chad_Mobley's Avatar
    Does anyone know what sample rate iTunes Radio streams at?
    06-12-2013 05:49 PM
  8. swarlos's Avatar
    So I just did 6 skips back to back but landed on a song I liked so I stopped haha. Will continue to test after I listen to it.


    Sent from the collector home world.
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    06-12-2013 10:44 PM
  9. jrdnlc's Avatar
    Rdio is the way to go but you pay like $10/mnth. Ever since I got it I canceled Pandora
    06-12-2013 11:28 PM
  10. Alli's Avatar
    Gave it a good run this morning. It will not replace Spotify for me. If you're a Pandora or Rdio user though, you'll probably love it.
    06-12-2013 11:31 PM
  11. swarlos's Avatar
    I've used Rdio for some time and I think as of now I'll use iTunes radio and listen to my library of 8700 songs.


    Sent from the collector home world.
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    06-13-2013 01:23 AM
  12. wamadden4's Avatar
    It has been unlimited skips for me... Not too worried about it... I also have Spotify alongside iTunes Match obviously.... its the way to go!
    06-13-2013 03:47 AM
  13. cardfan's Avatar
    It has been unlimited skips for me... Not too worried about it... I also have Spotify alongside iTunes Match obviously.... its the way to go!
    Sounds like it'll do the trick for me then as an itunes match subscriber. I'm a pretty light Pandora user but skip a lot which a jailbreak tweak currently helps.
    06-13-2013 09:36 AM
  14. wamadden4's Avatar
    Yeah my phone was jailbroken before this and the jailbreak tweak with unlimited skips on Pandora and another cool function was pretty sweet.... I miss that and BiteSMS the most.
    06-13-2013 12:29 PM
  15. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    There's definitely a skip limit at least for now even if you are an iTunes Match subscriber. I just ran into it although I wasn't counting my skips. It's very subtle. The fast forward button is just slightly grayed out and disabled.
    06-13-2013 02:46 PM
  16. Superjudge's Avatar
    Are the ads audio ads, visual ads, or a mixture of both?
    06-13-2013 03:53 PM
  17. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I've only noticed audio but when I've been listening I haven't really been paying attention to the app.
    Fausty82 and Superjudge like this.
    06-13-2013 03:56 PM
  18. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    If anyone's wondering about data usage with iTunes Radio, I just send 18.3 MB in 26 minutes on my commute home. Not sure what that translates to as a bit rate but i was on a string LTE signal all the way. I'm guessing that Apple does some sort of adaptive streaming based on the quality of your signal.
    DarthElmo likes this.
    06-13-2013 04:35 PM
  19. DarthElmo's Avatar
    Thanks very much for the info, Karenkcoulter.

    This is the first post I've found with a quantifiable rate for iTunes Radio. However, if 18.3 MB in 26 minutes is accurate, the bit rate is extremely disappointing - to me at least. Your bit rate (over an LTE connection even) was only 96 Kbps. Here's the calculation: 18.3 * 8 * 1024 / 26 / 60 = 96.1. This is still better than say, Pandora's rate of 64 Kbps (AAC) but since iTunes already has an entire library of 256 Kbps AAC files that they use to stream iTunes Match songs, I was hoping/anticipating they'd be doing the same thing with iTunes Radio. Or at least make that option available. I suppose that 256 Kbps is perhaps a bit much for some cellular connections and/or data plans.

    I really wanted to ditch MOG's $10 per month plan when iTunes Radio came out but the sound quality of 96 Kbps can't compare to MOG's 320 Kpbs, even though I'm assuming that Apple is streaming the superior AAC codec as opposed to MOG's MP3 at 320 Kbps. (If anyone is curious about the codecs, just do a quick search for AAC vs MP3.)

    I know I'm basing all of this on a single "test" and iTunes Radio hasn't been officially released to the general public yet. I'd really be interested in seeing anyone else's numbers.
    Last edited by DarthElmo; 07-04-2013 at 09:28 AM.
    07-04-2013 09:02 AM
  20. jhoffmeyer's Avatar
    Could anyone please tell me if I need to have iTunes Match turned on to get the ad-free iTunes Radio? I'm subscribed to iTunes Match but mostly use it on my Apple TVs and not on my iPhone. I was just wondering if I'll need to turn it on for my iPhone to get iTunes Radio without hearing ads?
    07-20-2013 12:34 AM
  21. swarlos's Avatar
    Could anyone please tell me if I need to have iTunes Match turned on to get the ad-free iTunes Radio? I'm subscribed to iTunes Match but mostly use it on my Apple TVs and not on my iPhone. I was just wondering if I'll need to turn it on for my iPhone to get iTunes Radio without hearing ads?
    Yes I believe each device needs to have iTunes Match turned on for the ad free radio experience.


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    07-22-2013 04:33 AM

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