1. Fausty82's Avatar
    You're right, a 4 inch screen with the iphone 5 being as narrow as it is won't accommodate multi window split screen the way a bigger screen does. That's why I never liked the screen size increase in the 5. it just wasn't enough. Reading anythig is just easier on a bigger screen. So is viewing maps. Hard to argue that smaller is better or even as efficient.

    I have an audio receiver, tv, cable box, AC, Ceiling fan and LED color changing light bulbs all controlled via IR... and that's just in the living room. Why wouldn't you welcome an IR on your next iPhone?

    So I gather the general perception is.. If one is not happy with the latest apple phone or OS, there's always a choice to switch. This is true except that I was really rooting for Apple all along. I made the lines in years past, high fived everyone because there was nothing like an iPhone at one point. I never thought about making a switch, not even when the S3 was out. But now android 4.2 + GS4 has really caught up in every aspect. Even further, their OS is just a LOT more customizable than ours. I like iOS i really do, but theirs just does more.
    I actually prefer the iPhone 5 screen... especially the form factor. Its a 4" screen that is still manageable with one hand.

    Personally, I have no need for IR, and its old technology. The Palm Pilot and Palm Treo used IR to connect with devices... not something that I ever see Apple adding to its devices.

    Again, I have been using iOS devices for 3 years, and have no desire to look elsewhere - at least not now. It important to find what works for you... and to have options... good luck with whatever choices you make going forward.
    06-10-2013 01:25 AM
  2. swarlos's Avatar
    I actually prefer the iPhone 5 screen... especially the form factor. Its a 4" screen that is still manageable with one hand.

    Personally, I have no need for IR, and its old technology. The Palm Pilot and Palm Treo used IR to connect with devices... not something that I ever see Apple adding to its devices.

    Again, I have been using iOS devices for 3 years, and have no desire to look elsewhere - at least not now. It important to find what works for you... and to have options... good luck with whatever choices you make going forward.
    So do I Fausty after using bigger screened Android phones I'm actually really happy with the 4" inch size. I really don't want them to go much bigger. I think some of these huge screened phones like new Samsung Galaxy Mega look stupid and are over kill.


    Sent from the collector home world.
    06-10-2013 01:55 AM
  3. norrisja's Avatar
    Two things... if youre a developer, why wouldnt you renew? You need to continue supporting your apps, right? And secondly, you might be able to squeeze a couple of beta releases out of the next 30 days - probably the first beta for sure... but after that, what are you going to do? Restore and go back to 6.1.3?
    I'm going to renew for sure. I am switching careers and running low on dough for the next few weeks.
    06-10-2013 02:09 AM
  4. revtech's Avatar
    I have an audio receiver, tv, cable box, AC, Ceiling fan and LED color changing light bulbs all controlled via IR... and that's just in the living room. Why wouldn't you welcome an IR on your next iPhone?
    Because I'm willing and able to get up and change these things by hand . . .
    06-10-2013 10:27 AM
  5. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    You're right, a 4 inch screen with the iphone 5 being as narrow as it is won't accommodate multi window split screen the way a bigger screen does. That's why I never liked the screen size increase in the 5. it just wasn't enough. Reading anythig is just easier on a bigger screen. So is viewing maps. Hard to argue that smaller is better or even as efficient.

    I have an audio receiver, tv, cable box, AC, Ceiling fan and LED color changing light bulbs all controlled via IR... and that's just in the living room. Why wouldn't you welcome an IR on your next iPhone?

    So I gather the general perception is.. If one is not happy with the latest apple phone or OS, there's always a choice to switch. This is true except that I was really rooting for Apple all along. I made the lines in years past, high fived everyone because there was nothing like an iPhone at one point. I never thought about making a switch, not even when the S3 was out. But now android 4.2 + GS4 has really caught up in every aspect. Even further, their OS is just a LOT more customizable than ours. I like iOS i really do, but theirs just does more.
    At the cost of stability, it does have more features...bottom line, Android caught up to iOS in every aspect except the one that keeps people happy and satisfied with iOS, and that is a stable work environment. The "bigger is better" argument is purely subjective...i personally don't care at all for the larger screens offered on the Galaxy S and Note lines of devices, and find the iPhone 5's screen size perfect for reading and enjoying videos, and it's more than sufficient for viewing maps easily and optimally.

    Give me my phone sized smart-phone and stable work environment all day vs. a phablet and clunky OS. Do I welcome new features and options on the iPhone? Always. But not at the expense of the stability i enjoy from every Apple product i use. The bottom line here is that if a stable and simple device doesn't float your boat, you have options...i don't really see what "always pulling for Apple" has anything to do with, you either support their approach or you don't, by now i would think it would be pretty common knowledge of what the iPhone (and all Apple products for that matter) are all about...sitting there "pulling" for Apple to create a Galaxy S type phone is a fools effort.
    kch50428, Fausty82, CDG and 1 others like this.
    06-10-2013 10:56 AM
  6. Fausty82's Avatar
    I have an audio receiver, tv, cable box, AC, Ceiling fan and LED color changing light bulbs all controlled via IR... and that's just in the living room. Why wouldn't you welcome an IR on your next iPhone?
    Because I'm willing and able to get up and change these things by hand . . .
    Or because I can use the remote control for those devices that came with them...
    revtech likes this.
    06-10-2013 11:03 AM
  7. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    You're right, a 4 inch screen with the iphone 5 being as narrow as it is won't accommodate multi window split screen the way a bigger screen does. That's why I never liked the screen size increase in the 5. it just wasn't enough. Reading anythig is just easier on a bigger screen. So is viewing maps. Hard to argue that smaller is better or even as efficient.
    Yep, the narrowness of the screen is why I am not on the iPhone (I don't care about multitasking). I find the 4.3" to 4.7" screens ideal. 5” and above ? For a phone, you can keep it. For the past couple of years, I was sporting a BB 9810 (the way iOS handled email attachments had originally steered me away from the iPhone). When it came time to replace it, I looked at all my options, including the iPhone. (I looked at how often the way iOS handled attachments would get in my 'way' and it was rarely.) I don't know if it's aging, or that the eye doctor said I have 20% light blockage, but I can see the larger (read wider) screens better. The wider screen of the iPad is one of many reasons why I won't even consider switching over to anything else in the tablet realm.

    I have an audio receiver, tv, cable box, AC, Ceiling fan and LED color changing light bulbs all controlled via IR... and that's just in the living room. Why wouldn't you welcome an IR on your next iPhone?
    Receiver has wifi, TiVo (with cable cards, no cable box) has wifi. Ceiling fans are RF, upgradable to wifi, and the latest color changing LED bulb is wifi. Why keep buying IrDA only equipment. Lay in bed, receiver is in the living room, change audio program without getting up or spoiling the mood.


    So I gather the general perception is.. If one is not happy with the latest apple phone or OS, there's always a choice to switch. This is true except that I was really rooting for Apple all along. I made the lines in years past, high fived everyone because there was nothing like an iPhone at one point. I never thought about making a switch, not even when the S3 was out. But now android 4.2 + GS4 has really caught up in every aspect. Even further, their OS is just a LOT more customizable than ours. I like iOS i really do, but theirs just does more.
    More customizable does not mean does more. It might make certain tasks easier, but doesn't mean it does more.
    06-10-2013 11:53 AM
  8. GinoDotCom's Avatar
    A built in IR is not the dealbreaker here but it is somewhat humerous with some of the response . I have wifi remote capability on a couple of my devices and I've found that Wifi remote is just not nearly as direct to a device as IR is. plus most importantly you'll need a different app to control different devices. I travel for work and am not a fan of using the hotel remotes when I can use my phone instead.

    Having a built in IR just makes things easier and I feel like the main reason this discussion is being entertained is because the overall feeling is the next iPhone won't be getting one. But instead if Apple did include it, we would all gladly welcome it. So what gives? Because android did it first us Apple consumers have a hard time tipping our caps to that feature? It's probably the same folks who deny needing any sort of multi window multitasking.

    And to the person who was talking about users liking iOS for its stable work environment.. While that has been the major knock for the android OS over the years when compared to iOS, I'm not sure one can still say that anymore. 4.X android OS is pretty stable, it's come a long way from when I used to tease my buddy's galaxy S2 for taking out his battery when his phone would constantly freeze all the time. That is just not as true anymore. If you were to take a closer look at 4.2 OS from an unbiased view , you'd see a stable platform and why that OS has caught up and exceeded in certain areas.
    06-10-2013 03:04 PM
  9. LCW's Avatar
    anyone notice that the yahoo weather app update was *almost* a preview of what to expect in iOS 7 as far as look and feel??
    06-10-2013 04:39 PM
  10. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    anyone notice that the yahoo weather app update was *almost* a preview of what to expect in iOS 7 as far as look and feel??
    Yes! The Latest Yahoo Weather App is the first thing I thought of when I saw the iOS 7 weather screen.
    06-10-2013 06:49 PM
  11. Guacho's Avatar
    Yes! The Latest Yahoo Weather App is the first thing I thought of when I saw the iOS 7 weather screen.
    Agree, and I dont have plans to get rid of it anytime soon.. It really has all I need
    06-11-2013 09:21 AM
  12. Richard Nieves's Avatar
    anyone notice that the yahoo weather app update was *almost* a preview of what to expect in iOS 7 as far as look and feel??
    Isn't the current ios app using yahoo as its source anyway? Am I crazy for not being surprised by this lol?
    06-12-2013 01:05 AM
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