1. Fausty82's Avatar
    :o Oh, ya'll know what..?

    The very same transit information can just be found by going to Google.com from Safari and going to Maps.

    Well, it's not integrated with Siri, but I guess I can handle that.

    iOS6, here I come.
    Well, that was certainly an enjoyable journey, wasn't it? smh
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    06-15-2012 01:25 PM
  2. Fausty82's Avatar
    This is too funny... stinkin' up the place only to now say "Um... Never mind... "
    Maybe motoleo is the reincarnation of Roseanne Roseannadanna...
    06-15-2012 01:28 PM
  3. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    I have to bear down. The web app doesn't give you everything, it takes longer.


    ....But the times and maps are there... so it will have to do. Cause I do want iOS6.
    06-15-2012 01:33 PM
  4. BLiNK's Avatar
    Ok, I'm going to say one last thing.

    Do you really believe they can do enough? That Apple maps is going to be something to tout by Fall 2012?
    yes AND Find My Friends. observe --> Apple looking to take Find My Friends to the next level with iOS 6
    06-15-2012 02:02 PM
  5. iEd's Avatar
    The new Apple maps look pretty cool. I never used Google maps for anything other than looking up a location.

    For travel on any device I have owned I use a Nav App or my Garmin Nuvi. Fly Over feature will be good for landmark location. For transit routes and times where I live there's a app for that.
    06-15-2012 02:56 PM
  6. Apple=Racket96's Avatar
    I'm probably gonna update just for Facebook integration. I'm 16 & tbh I hate going into the FB app to do ANYTHING. Plus ways the harm? I didn't expect ios 6 to b revolutionary anyway...
    06-15-2012 03:34 PM
  7. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    motoleo, you even got Rene to make a post about this.

    http://www.imore.com/2012/06/15/ios-...rections-apps/
    06-15-2012 04:38 PM
  8. Rockdog97's Avatar
    ^^^

    Fuel ---- meet Fire....
    06-15-2012 05:07 PM
  9. BLiNK's Avatar
    you guys are silly..

    OP, if you need any help loading it.. hit me up on my twitter
    06-15-2012 05:18 PM
  10. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    motoleo, you even got Rene to make a post about this.

    http://www.imore.com/2012/06/15/ios-...rections-apps/
    It started off good, but then I had to Facepalm at the additional information I did not yet know. Why do Apple users always have something they collectively have to deny?

    Somewhere along the line, Apple made the conscious decision to screw over their users with an obviously inferior application. But why did they do it? Not for the benefit of the end user, but basically out of pride/greed whatever you want to call it.

    Let's look at JUST Apple Maps here, it is, as a product, a different kind of app. Less useful for me inparticular because it tried to be everything except a really good map.

    3D graphics, flyover, and cinematic turns, all of this is an elaborate and clever rouse to make the end user think that it's better, because it LOOKS cool.

    But if you really look hard at Apple Maps as a whole, it is not a good product because it fails to help you in areas where you need it the most.

    And also, why call it Apple Maps when it's just going to redirect you to a ton of different apps anyway?

    And if I was faithful and devout iOS user as I am, I would WANT that functionality on my device. But I'm willing to forgive Apple. I think of it like redecorating. Part of what made Apple devices good was that functionality they were able to bring to the iPhone by partnering with Google.

    Now that they've essentially broken up, that experience is gone. I'm still getting the new iPhone, but it come with the hassle of going to Safari to get bus times and realistic mapping.
    Last edited by motoleo; 06-15-2012 at 08:50 PM.
    06-15-2012 08:36 PM
  11. Drummertist's Avatar
    Geez, what a baby. Google already said it will bring the Google Maps app to the App Store with full features during their keynote a week before WWDC12. Ya see? You'll have a choice. Get over it and upgrade. Your whole reason is BS.
    06-15-2012 09:36 PM
  12. eprisencc's Avatar
    Well I can understand your frustration but I think Google is working on their own app store option which should hopefully provide this functionality along with other features. I think the more pressing reason not to upgrade is that there is not much new in iOS 6 and that the UI is getting extremely stale. Actually that would be a good reason to change platforms altogether.
    06-15-2012 09:53 PM
  13. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    Apple is always up to something crazy. And people are always knowing about it, but they never say anything. Apple's Maps kind of looked a little funny at the WWDC Keynote, you know, fake, bland, empty. But it wasn't until today that I spit out my cereal and read this forum.

    I said, "Oh hell no!"

    I'm actually deliberating on whether or not I want iOS6 now... I'm not in the mood for beta right now. I have a tight schedule.
    06-15-2012 09:54 PM
  14. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    It started off good, but then I had to Facepalm at the additional information I did not yet know. Why do Apple users always have something they collectively have to deny?

    Somewhere along the line, Apple made the conscious decision to screw over their users with an obviously inferior application. But why did they do it? Not for the benefit of the end user, but basically out of pride/greed whatever you want to call it.

    Let's look at JUST Apple Maps here, it is, as a product, a different kind of app. Less useful for me inparticular because it tried to be everything except a really good map.

    3D graphics, flyover, and cinematic turns, all of this is an elaborate and clever rouse to make the end user think that it's better, because it LOOKS cool.

    But if you really look hard at Apple Maps as a whole, it is not a good product because it fails to help you in areas where you need it the most.

    And also, why call it Apple Maps when it's just going to redirect you to a ton of different apps anyway?

    And if I was faithful and devout iOS user as I am, I would WANT that functionality on my device. But I'm willing to forgive Apple. I think of it like redecorating. Part of what made Apple devices good was that functionality they were able to bring to the iPhone by partnering with Google.

    Now that they've essentially broken up, that experience is gone. I'm still getting the new iPhone, but it come with the hassle of going to Safari to get bus times and realistic mapping.
    And here again is where I say that it's been in beta for five days now. Who's to say that it isn't going to improve by the time it's at GM?
    06-15-2012 09:55 PM
  15. Fausty82's Avatar
    It started off good, but then I had to Facepalm at the additional information I did not yet know. Why do Apple users always have something they collectively have to deny?

    Somewhere along the line, Apple made the conscious decision to screw over their users with an obviously inferior application. But why did they do it? Not for the benefit of the end user, but basically out of pride/greed whatever you want to call it.

    Let's look at JUST Apple Maps here, it is, as a product, a different kind of app. Less useful for me inparticular because it tried to be everything except a really good map.

    3D graphics, flyover, and cinematic turns, all of this is an elaborate and clever rouse to make the end user think that it's better, because it LOOKS cool.

    But if you really look hard at Apple Maps as a whole, it is not a good product because it fails to help you in areas where you need it the most.

    And also, why call it Apple Maps when it's just going to redirect you to a ton of different apps anyway?

    And if I was faithful and devout iOS user as I am, I would WANT that functionality on my device. But I'm willing to forgive Apple. I think of it like redecorating. Part of what made Apple devices good was that functionality they were able to bring to the iPhone by partnering with Google.

    Now that they've essentially broken up, that experience is gone. I'm still getting the new iPhone, but it come with the hassle of going to Safari to get bus times and realistic mapping.
    If Apple had not decided to develop their own stuff, we would not have the MacIntosh line, OS X, the iPod, iPhone or iPad, AppleTV or any of the thousands of products that they developed over the years. And all along the way people switched to the Apple products, often times taking small steps backwards at times to ultimately be moving forward.

    There will be other options for what you say you must have - including, as you have already pointed out, Safari and mapping sites on the WWW... Google may or may not get their maps app ready and into the App Store at the time of the iOS 6/iPhone 5 launch... but even if they don't, many will. And Apple has always fostered a development community that can and does meet the demands of the user base with good, reliable and innovative software. For Apple to decide to forego a part of functionality, it's well within their purview to do so. Accept it, adapt or move on. Those are your only choices.

    And I at this point I can't tell of you are or are not upgrading... and frankly it doesn't matter to me... but weigh the options and make a decision... just understand that I can't fix it and you can't fix it and very few (if any) here can.

    I am so done with this topic...
    06-15-2012 10:01 PM
  16. ecr80's Avatar
    sheesh a lot can change from beta 1 to GM, just give it a break. The Maps is not ready. I'm sure they're still working on improving it, etc.
    06-15-2012 10:06 PM
  17. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    If Apple had not decided to develop their own stuff, we would not have the MacIntosh line, OS X, the iPod, iPhone or iPad, AppleTV or any of the thousands of products that they developed over the years. And all along the way people switched to the Apple products, often times taking small steps backwards at times to ultimately be moving forward.

    There will be other options for what you say you must have - including, as you have already pointed out, Safari and mapping sites on the WWW... Google may or may not get their maps app ready and into the App Store at the time of the iOS 6/iPhone 5 launch... but even if they don't, many will. And Apple has always fostered a development community that can and does meet the demands of the user base with good, reliable and innovative software. For Apple to decide to forego a part of functionality, it's well within their purview to do so. Accept it, adapt or move on. Those are your only choices.

    And I at this point I can't tell of you are or are not upgrading... and frankly it doesn't matter to me... but weigh the options and make a decision... just understand that I can't fix it and you can't fix it and very few (if any) here can.

    I am so done with this topic...
    This I understand. I see potential and vision in Apple maps. But if it was me, I would have been a step ahead of the game instead of trying to come out with it just to have the foundation. Apple is too big of a company to have an app looking like Maps. I would have held off on my own maps until later on. They just threw away the better app. I mean, everything about iOS was always simplistic, but this is ridiculous. Lol

    I dont know what to do either. I can just enjoy the current iPhone for the coming months and just keep waiting.......
    Last edited by motoleo; 06-15-2012 at 10:10 PM.
    06-15-2012 10:07 PM
  18. jclisenby's Avatar
    You want transit mapping? There are apps for that... RIGHT NOW. Go to the app store and find one. Your every need is not meant for Apple to fill with their iOS. So you're not satisfied with that... we get it. Now get over it. smh...
    This ^^^^^
    06-15-2012 10:09 PM
  19. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    Download apps for that? I might as well go to Google.

    How can you be so nonchalant about losing part of the iPhone experience?

    Anyway, this thread isn't about me, it's about any reasons not to upgrade to iOS6, which I'm sure more reasons and unsatisfied users will pop up very soon.
    06-15-2012 10:18 PM
  20. kch50428's Avatar
    How can you be so nonchalant about losing part of the iPhone experience?
    Because I have not lost anything. With iOS6, I will only gain.
    06-15-2012 10:27 PM
  21. ghostface147's Avatar
    How can you be so nonchalant about losing part of the iPhone experience?
    For me because that's not something I use often enough to really miss. I don't walk too much, I ride my bike on trails I already know how to get to, haven't used public transit in years (outside the park and ride) and I know where I am going when I drive. Change has to happen sometime and Apple had to start from scratch. Maps was never a part of the experience, it was an app that hardly got used.
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    06-15-2012 10:29 PM
  22. kch50428's Avatar
    For me, the present Map app is a novelty. For serious nav, I have Navigon.
    06-15-2012 10:32 PM
  23. atharv's Avatar
    It's really simple guys.

    What's more important, transit directions or turn by turn navigation? Now, before we had iOS 6, people were clamoring for turn by turn navigation. I'm pretty sure that Google refused to let Apple have that in iOS, since it was a key feature of Android + Google services integration. So, Apple had to make a choice - stick with Google and have a dead end product that probably would not receive any upgrades from Google? Or go out on a limb and try their own hand?

    In the long term, it was clear that Apple had to develop its own Maps solution. Now, obviously there are some (every?) things Google does that are top of the line:
    - Mapping
    - Places
    - Transit
    - Street View
    - Satellite
    - Turn by Turn
    - Vector Graphics
    - 3D Mapping
    - Advertising

    However, out of those, iOS5 maps was stuck with Mapping, Satellite, Transit, Street View and Advertising. It would never get Places integration, never get Turn by Turn, never get Vector Graphics, never get 3D Mapping, and never get rid of those sponsored Advertising pins.

    Now, Apple has come up with a solution that has noticeably but not deal-breaking worse mapping, no transit directions, no street view and poorer satellite imagery. But guess what?
    - It has Yelp integration for Places
    - It has Turn by Turn
    - It has Vector Graphics
    - It has 3D Mapping
    - It has no Advertising
    - It (subjectively) looks better

    So, you gain some, you lose some. But the rest is stuff that there was no way Apple could get to Google's level the first time around. It had to happen. But I'm sure that Apple's mapping solution will iteratively improve as time goes on. Not by Fall, but by iOS 7 I'm almost sure Transit directions will be back in some form.

    Of course, the ideal would be Apple and Google working together to provide the best mapping solution on the iPhone, but we can't always get what we want.
    06-15-2012 10:37 PM
  24. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    Is there a way to jailbreak iOS6 and switch out Apple maps for Google maps?
    06-15-2012 10:47 PM
  25. robes1's Avatar
    This is unwarranted. This has nothing to do with beta. This has everything to do with Apple switching a superior product with an inferior product in the name of pride and money.

    It's not about beta, if you think that Apple Maps will magically get to Google Maps status in just a few months. I must tell you I do not believe it. They should not release Apple Maps if the development of Apple Maps is not complete with the end product being greater than or equal to the previous Google Maps.

    But when it is about beta, like with Siri, I'd like to say that Apple is garnering a reputation of publicly releasing unfinished products and whenever something isn't right, they just say, "Beta".

    Apple is starting to mess up.
    The Google maps experience for the iPhone sucked! BIG TIME! I'll be much happier with what Apple is working on with their own maps app. Google maps on their own mobile OS didn't even have the features that you're crying about in the first version. These things will come with time! I would much rather have turn by turn with voice than the lame version that comes stock right now. Its the reason I have to pay AT&T for navigation right now! And this will be $free.99! If you hate it that much there's always Android.
    Last edited by robes1; 06-15-2012 at 10:54 PM.
    06-15-2012 10:48 PM
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