1. ja2ed's Avatar
    Something's wrong with your setup then. For me (and everyone else I know with iOS5 installed), the iMessage notification is identical to the SMS notifications. Same sound, same badge, same everything (except it says "iMessage" instead of "text message"
    What exactly is your setup. Because i have every notification on and I still am not getting anything to deal with iMessage. Texting is fine
    10-13-2011 01:16 PM
  2. jakej914's Avatar
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I think people are not understanding that you need to have the email address that your contact used when setting up iCloud to begin with. That is how iCloud can make it work. This email address also needs to be saved in the same contact for that person as their phone number in order for iMessage to decide which to use.
    You have to log in with your Apple ID, but if you're using an iPhone, you don't have to register your email address as an address at which "You can be reached for messages at." So, if you're messaging someone with an iPhone (i.e. sending a message to that person's actual phone number) that has no email addresses set to receive iMessages at, as long as that person has iMessage switched on, it will automatically discern that that user can receive iMessages, and will send your message as an iMessage. Automagically!
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    10-13-2011 01:24 PM
  3. mc511#CB's Avatar
    This may not be as good for iphone users who have friends inside the USA but i have some friends in Brazil and in Europe that i would like to text. I also think this feature would be good for kids this holiday. When parents go ad buy their kids an ipod touch for games and apps and music, they will be able to send free text messages as well. Although there may be some odd consequences for that but nontheless when parents hear the word "free text messaging with no 3g plan and over wifi" they will probably think its a neat thing for their kid to own and text his friends who have an ipod touch. Just a thought, really but a good one.
    10-13-2011 01:51 PM
  4. meinvein's Avatar
    You have to log in with your Apple ID, but if you're using an iPhone, you don't have to register your email address as an address at which "You can be reached for messages at." So, if you're messaging someone with an iPhone (i.e. sending a message to that person's actual phone number) that has no email addresses set to receive iMessages at, as long as that person has iMessage switched on, it will automatically discern that that user can receive iMessages, and will send your message as an iMessage. Automagically!
    Thanks for the clarification. I updated my iPad2 but not my phone yet...it was a test run.

    Does anyone know if, since I already updated my ipad, I can use the same download to update my iphone? I didn't want to chance it as I won't be off from work until saturday and I rely on my phone for a lot during.
    10-13-2011 01:52 PM
  5. wrxnfx's Avatar
    It's one step forward in the right direction although it has much to be desired when compared to BBM. I consider that the standard and it isn't quite there, yet, but I can live with it since I have a lot of friends with iPhones.
    10-13-2011 02:02 PM
  6. rgar3388's Avatar
    Listen peeps:

    iMessage just works from the messages app without you having to do anything. You don't have to have an email linked to the contact unless you want it going to an ipod touch or an ipad. It works just like facetime. your iphone is linked to an apple id already. If iMessages is being used, it will be a blue bubble, if sms is being used it will be a green bubble. iMessages uses data, so you need to have cell data or wifi to use it. If someone has an iPad or iPod touch and let's say a blackberry, when you type in the contact you want to send it to, it will show their number, and their email with a blue bubble next to it meaning that it will use imessage to contact them. It's up to you to choose which one you want to send it to or their availability to respond. y'all can communicate and figure that out like adults. If iMessages is not working for you, then you either don't have it turned on in settings>messages, you don't have a data connection, they don't have a data connection, or one of you isn't on iOS 5. It's really simple. Don't think about it too much. you can choose whether you want it to revert to sms in settings if imessages isn't available for those who have texting plans.
    Last edited by rgar3388; 10-13-2011 at 02:38 PM.
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    10-13-2011 02:35 PM
  7. Scoot50's Avatar
    I hope apple updates it soon so it is more like BBM.

    I have a Ipad 2 (wifi) and have had it for a month or so. I get my first Iphone tomorrow (4s) so I am trying to picture how it is going to operate.

    The way I see it, if I am sitting at home on my ipad surfing the web, and I have my iphone sitting there beside me incase someone calls.....and someone send me an Imessage, my phone and Ipad are going to blow up. I guess I solve that by turning off notification sounds associated with Imessage on my Ipad.

    What I liked about BBM and what I think other people like and miss is that is was like AIM on your phone. The only people in your contacts in BBM were people with PIN numbers saved in your contacts, and you would have to accept them as a friend. You could group message, send a voice note, anything.

    You might think I am crazy but I would like to have Imessage and SMS separate like BBM and SMS was on Blackberries. I am coming from an android device and it has gtalk as its separate messaging app and it is ok. Just not as good as BBM. Bottom line is they need to be separate IMO. Makes more sense to me.
    Last edited by Scoot50; 10-13-2011 at 03:17 PM.
    10-13-2011 03:14 PM
  8. zcoleman's Avatar
    Anyone figure out how to assign a custom tone to an imessage yet?
    10-13-2011 03:15 PM
  9. Ringfinger's Avatar
    Helpful thread, thanks! I see the balloon next to those who have an iPod with ios5 installed as stated. Works fine. Don't put too much thought into it. Just type their name and if they have ios5, you will see the text bubble next to their e-mail address.
    10-13-2011 03:45 PM
  10. hollidizzle's Avatar
    I hope apple updates it soon so it is more like BBM.

    I have a Ipad 2 (wifi) and have had it for a month or so. I get my first Iphone tomorrow (4s) so I am trying to picture how it is going to operate.

    The way I see it, if I am sitting at home on my ipad surfing the web, and I have my iphone sitting there beside me incase someone calls.....and someone send me an Imessage, my phone and Ipad are going to blow up. I guess I solve that by turning off notification sounds associated with Imessage on my Ipad.

    What I liked about BBM and what I think other people like and miss is that is was like AIM on your phone. The only people in your contacts in BBM were people with PIN numbers saved in your contacts, and you would have to accept them as a friend. You could group message, send a voice note, anything.

    You might think I am crazy but I would like to have Imessage and SMS separate like BBM and SMS was on Blackberries. I am coming from an android device and it has gtalk as its separate messaging app and it is ok. Just not as good as BBM. Bottom line is they need to be separate IMO. Makes more sense to me.
    FINALLY someone that agrees with me.... lol I'd rather them separate too. I liked that i didn't have to give people my contact info, only my PIN. I mean, who wants to give someone a whole email address when u can give them 6 numbers... lol

    But like i said earlier, i hope apple will elaborate on it more. It is a relatively newborn feature for iDevices...
    10-13-2011 03:49 PM
  11. jakej914's Avatar
    Anyone figure out how to assign a custom tone to an imessage yet?
    Sounds-->Text Tone-->Set it to whatever you'd like.
    10-13-2011 03:50 PM
  12. jakej914's Avatar
    I hope apple updates it soon so it is more like BBM.

    I have a Ipad 2 (wifi) and have had it for a month or so. I get my first Iphone tomorrow (4s) so I am trying to picture how it is going to operate.

    The way I see it, if I am sitting at home on my ipad surfing the web, and I have my iphone sitting there beside me incase someone calls.....and someone send me an Imessage, my phone and Ipad are going to blow up. I guess I solve that by turning off notification sounds associated with Imessage on my Ipad.

    What I liked about BBM and what I think other people like and miss is that is was like AIM on your phone. The only people in your contacts in BBM were people with PIN numbers saved in your contacts, and you would have to accept them as a friend. You could group message, send a voice note, anything.

    You might think I am crazy but I would like to have Imessage and SMS separate like BBM and SMS was on Blackberries. I am coming from an android device and it has gtalk as its separate messaging app and it is ok. Just not as good as BBM. Bottom line is they need to be separate IMO. Makes more sense to me.
    If it bothers you, you can just turn off iMessage on your iPad. Yeah, they'll both blow up with messages, but the entire thread will continue between your 2 devices. I see what you are saying about them being different apps, but I don't think that falls in line with Apple's goal with iMessage.
    10-13-2011 03:52 PM
  13. PR1MO1's Avatar
    Listen peeps:

    iMessage just works from the messages app without you having to do anything. You don't have to have an email linked to the contact unless you want it going to an ipod touch or an ipad. It works just like facetime. your iphone is linked to an apple id already. If iMessages is being used, it will be a blue bubble, if sms is being used it will be a green bubble. iMessages uses data, so you need to have cell data or wifi to use it. If someone has an iPad or iPod touch and let's say a blackberry, when you type in the contact you want to send it to, it will show their number, and their email with a blue bubble next to it meaning that it will use imessage to contact them. It's up to you to choose which one you want to send it to or their availability to respond. y'all can communicate and figure that out like adults. If iMessages is not working for you, then you either don't have it turned on in settings>messages, you don't have a data connection, they don't have a data connection, or one of you isn't on iOS 5. It's really simple. Don't think about it too much. you can choose whether you want it to revert to sms in settings if imessages isn't available for those who have texting plans.
    I get what you're saying, my question is though how do I sms someone who has an iPad or iPod touch sitting at home on wifi, but they use a BlackBerry. When I select that persons phone number it defaults to iMessage, but I know that's going to go to their iPod touch at home and I know they are not at home.
    10-13-2011 04:15 PM
  14. Gooster's Avatar
    I get what you're saying, my question is though how do I sms someone who has an iPad or iPod touch sitting at home on wifi, but they use a BlackBerry. When I select that persons phone number it defaults to iMessage, but I know that's going to go to their iPod touch at home and I know they are not at home.
    It sounds like you would have to create a separate contact or something and iMessage will always favor the Apple ID over the BlackBerry number, or simply turn off iMessage.
    10-13-2011 04:21 PM
  15. rgar3388's Avatar
    I get what you're saying, my question is though how do I sms someone who has an iPad or iPod touch sitting at home on wifi, but they use a BlackBerry. When I select that persons phone number it defaults to iMessage, but I know that's going to go to their iPod touch at home and I know they are not at home.
    It won't default to iMessage. It will use sms because they're phone number is not linked to an iPhone therefore not linked to an apple id. You can leave everything under the same contact. Don't think about ti too much. Just do.
    10-13-2011 04:26 PM
  16. jakej914's Avatar
    I get what you're saying, my question is though how do I sms someone who has an iPad or iPod touch sitting at home on wifi, but they use a BlackBerry. When I select that persons phone number it defaults to iMessage, but I know that's going to go to their iPod touch at home and I know they are not at home.
    That person's phone number shouldn't be associated with iMessage...only an email address of his/her. So, when you go to send a message to that person's number, just start typing in his/her name (in the address field of a new thread), and make sure you select his/her phone number to send a text to. Should send as a text.
    10-13-2011 04:30 PM
  17. ctauriello's Avatar
    Sent message via iPad to wife's iPhone. Message chain did not appear on my iPhone. How do I fix it so messages are linked between both Ios5 devices? I am using Sam Apple ids and iCloud logins on both devices.
    10-13-2011 04:39 PM
  18. rgar3388's Avatar
    Sent message via iPad to wife's iPhone. Message chain did not appear on my iPhone. How do I fix it so messages are linked between both Ios5 devices? I am using Sam Apple ids and iCloud logins on both devices.
    Do you have it turned on on both devices.
    10-13-2011 04:46 PM
  19. ctauriello's Avatar
    Do you have it turned on on both devices.
    I messenger and iCloud are turned on for both devices.
    10-13-2011 04:50 PM
  20. rgar3388's Avatar
    I messenger and iCloud are turned on for both devices.
    Then I got nothin. Anyone else wanna chime in?
    10-13-2011 04:54 PM
  21. PR1MO1's Avatar
    That person's phone number shouldn't be associated with iMessage...only an email address of his/her. So, when you go to send a message to that person's number, just start typing in his/her name (in the address field of a new thread), and make sure you select his/her phone number to send a text to. Should send as a text.
    Ah I see. So it will only associate a phone number with iMessage if the phone number is in an iOS 5 iPhone? Otherwise it just associates the email address linked to the Apple ID? Makes sense now.
    10-13-2011 06:20 PM
  22. Steve28's Avatar
    What exactly is your setup. Because i have every notification on and I still am not getting anything to deal with iMessage. Texting is fine
    iMessage and text messages are exactly the same notification. There's no separate setup for text vs. iMessage. I'm not sure what you are asking - settings, general, sounds, text tone is where you set the sound. And settings, notifications, messages is where you set the notifications. Both text and iMessage use these same settings.
    10-13-2011 09:46 PM
  23. leharris22's Avatar
    I thought this message system was going to be tied to their Apple ID, not phone number. Odd. How is it different than sending a text then? And how do people with iPods or iPads use it?
    10-15-2011 10:19 AM
  24. Dienaldy_k's Avatar
    so.. It is Mean Imessanger Works Like What's App..?

    I was Thinking about, IMessanger working like BBM, using maybe Serial Number of Idevice..
    10-15-2011 10:34 AM
  25. Steve28's Avatar
    I thought this message system was going to be tied to their Apple ID, not phone number. Odd. How is it different than sending a text then? And how do people with iPods or iPads use it?
    It's tied to both - and any other email address you want to put in the "receive at" setting. It's not really different from text from the user experience - it's different behind the scenes in that it uses your data connection, not your SMS plan, to send the message. This gives you some extra features like being able to know when the message was delivered and when it was read, no size limit, etc.

    People with iPods and iPads just open the message app and send a message like they would if they were using an iPhone. So I have an iPhone and an iPad. If someone sends me a message to my phone number - it goes to m y iPhone. If they send it to my email address, it goes to both the iPad and the iPhone, I can reply from either, or switch mid stream - both devices have the full conversation.

    The only thing I wish apple had done was allow you to associate and iPad/iPod with a phone number so when you received a message at your phone number, it would go to your non-phone device as well.
    10-15-2011 10:46 AM
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