1. Lynx's Avatar
    I have the ability to get iOS5 Beta 2 and use it. Do you think its worth it to try out? Also how long does it take to upgrade to it, and downgrade back to 4.2.8 if I decided to go that route?
    06-28-2011 01:59 PM
  2. Jeremy's Avatar
    If you plan on upgrading to a beta on your daily driver I would highly recommend you not go through with it. Once you move up there is no going back down. At least any easy way to do so.
    06-28-2011 02:06 PM
  3. phinx404's Avatar
    i like it so far. few minor bugs here and there. all the apps i use work like normally. calendar is laggy at times and camera preview icon after taking the pic even after you delete it stays there until you take a new one. also sometimes after writing and email and sending it parts of the screen have black blocks in them.. just home button out or rotate and it goes away. all good though. if you like everything to work 100% or near it then stay stock. if you like to test new things and dont mind working through or around them then upgrade! =)
    06-28-2011 02:25 PM
  4. BLiNK's Avatar
    i think it is important to realize that it does come with a price.. for example: some of your favorite or most used apps may not work and will not until after the final release. the workability of the device will have little issues here & there. battery life could be a deal breaker. fortunately i am near a power source most of my day(s) so i can go heavy with usage if i choose to do so

    most importantly, it is a beta so when the "newness" finally wears off try not to come here, or other forums, and complain about it
    06-28-2011 02:33 PM
  5. Lynx's Avatar
    I am by a power source the entire day so im not to worried about battery life. Has anybody downgraded from 5b2 back to 4.2.8?
    06-28-2011 02:42 PM
  6. Ipheuria's Avatar
    I say live on the edge, Do it, Do it, Do it Can you tell which kid I was in high school?? lol

    I'm not going to add anything because I think everyone has given you a pretty good idea of what to expect. I don't think it's that hard to downgrade because you're going back to the latest firmware which is still being signed by Apple. However I'm not sure if there is a difference between Windows and Mac so maybe that is something to consider? I just downgraded my iPad from beta 1 back to 4.3.3. I'll be getting beta 2 this weekend but I like to go back to official firmware then go to the beta instead of beta to beta just the way I roll. It took about 15 minutes I downloaded the firmware and opened iTunes, hold down Option/ Shift on Windows and clicked restore in iTunes. I pointed to the firmware I downloaded and let iTunes do it's thing. I tried to restore from a backup it said my firmware was older so I went to the older backup and boom it is now restoring.

    This is the main reason I always tell people to stick to the most simple method to JB. I see some people trying this, then this because it might work, then this and their hosts file gets edited, etc. So this can also add to the problems of restoring because I have never had any of the problems I've helped people with on these forums it's always been a one shot deal for me.
    06-28-2011 02:57 PM
  7. Lynx's Avatar
    I think the main reason I wanna do this is because I miss ROMing my Android Devices lol. I was always tinkering with those. Hmmmm I may pull the trigger and do it. I dont think going back to stock is that difficult from what ive read online.
    06-28-2011 03:03 PM
  8. Jeremy's Avatar
    I say live on the edge, Do it, Do it, Do it Can you tell which kid I was in high school?? lol

    I'm not going to add anything because I think everyone has given you a pretty good idea of what to expect. I don't think it's that hard to downgrade because you're going back to the latest firmware which is still being signed by Apple. However I'm not sure if there is a difference between Windows and Mac so maybe that is something to consider? I just downgraded my iPad from beta 1 back to 4.3.3. I'll be getting beta 2 this weekend but I like to go back to official firmware then go to the beta instead of beta to beta just the way I roll. It took about 15 minutes I downloaded the firmware and opened iTunes, hold down Option/ Shift on Windows and clicked restore in iTunes. I pointed to the firmware I downloaded and let iTunes do it's thing. I tried to restore from a backup it said my firmware was older so I went to the older backup and boom it is now restoring.

    This is the main reason I always tell people to stick to the most simple method to JB. I see some people trying this, then this because it might work, then this and their hosts file gets edited, etc. So this can also add to the problems of restoring because I have never had any of the problems I've helped people with on these forums it's always been a one shot deal for me.
    You can not downgrade the iPhone the way you do iPad. When you install the iPhone beta you are making changes to the radio firmware as well which is not reversible.
    06-28-2011 03:04 PM
  9. hellomiggy's Avatar
    i have been downgrading my iPod from beta to stable 4.3.3.

    for some reason its easy as pie on the iPod? to downgrade, i just press option my mac and click restore.

    now for some reason the iPhone is much more difficult, i had to download TinyUmbrella, RedSn0w, RecBoot, and so on.

    hopefully it is much more easier for you to downgrade 0_o?
    Last edited by migueljonathan; 06-28-2011 at 03:10 PM. Reason: wasn't finished
    06-28-2011 03:06 PM
  10. Jeremy's Avatar
    i have been downgrading my iPod from beta to stable 4.3.3.

    for some reason its easy as pie on the iPod? to downgrade, i just press option my mac and click restore.
    Again, it could be due to the radio firmware being changed in the phone. Direct from the Apple Developer page "Devices updated to iOS 5 beta can not be restored to earlier versions of iOS. Devices will be able to upgrade to future beta releases and the final iOS 5 software.".

    Maybe they are lying... no idea but I have no reason to attempt it. Previously it was possible but not by simply restoring in iTunes. There was way more to it than that due to the radio firmware.
    06-28-2011 03:09 PM
  11. ghostface147's Avatar
    You can revert to the 4.3.3 official release, but it has a few hoops to jump through. You CANNOT downgrade your baseband however.
    06-28-2011 03:18 PM
  12. bizfox's Avatar
    The beta is worth it to me since first, I like to tinker... and second, I love my notifications haha.
    06-28-2011 03:23 PM
  13. Jon Seals's Avatar
    If you have SHSH's (they aren't hard to get) you can.
    06-28-2011 03:36 PM
  14. OKCChuck's Avatar
    You can not downgrade the iPhone the way you do iPad. When you install the iPhone beta you are making changes to the radio firmware as well which is not reversible.
    Well, you can go back to 4.3.3. at least. I did it last night without and SHSH
    06-28-2011 03:40 PM
  15. Garz's Avatar
    There are some bugs. Notifications are not reliable. Facetime has been disabled until beta 3. Its your call. Do you want.
    06-28-2011 03:43 PM
  16. Dryland's Avatar
    Beta 2 feels much smoother compared to beta 1, and has better battery life (I get almost 24 hours on a full charge, and ye's I'm a power user). Unless apple does something to change that, it safe. As mentioned, some apps will crash, but most will work. ( I haven't found any that don't) Notifications are the best thing about iOS 5 IMO. Playing Modern Combat and getting fragged cause a modal alert has stopped my game play. Wireless syncing and backups are cool as well.
    06-28-2011 03:55 PM
  17. iV1SHAL's Avatar
    Apple is still signing 4.3.3 so you can just hit shift restore and downgrade to it. Works on iPhone too
    06-28-2011 06:06 PM
  18. Jeremy's Avatar
    Apple is still signing 4.3.3 so you can just hit shift restore and downgrade to it. Works on iPhone too
    That's odd, but there you go.
    06-28-2011 06:34 PM
  19. Alli's Avatar
    I think the main reason I wanna do this is because I miss ROMing my Android Devices lol. I was always tinkering with those. Hmmmm I may pull the trigger and do it. I dont think going back to stock is that difficult from what ive read online.
    If that's your reason, you should jailbreak instead of using a beta.
    06-28-2011 10:37 PM
  20. Lynx's Avatar
    If that's your reason, you should jailbreak instead of using a beta.
    I was jailbroken, now im running iOS 5 for the day to see how it is. So far I like the notifications, but we will see how everything throughout the day goes.
    06-29-2011 08:21 AM
  21. rl2k05's Avatar
    Again, it could be due to the radio firmware being changed in the phone. Direct from the Apple Developer page "Devices updated to iOS 5 beta can not be restored to earlier versions of iOS. Devices will be able to upgrade to future beta releases and the final iOS 5 software.".

    Maybe they are lying... no idea but I have no reason to attempt it. Previously it was possible but not by simply restoring in iTunes. There was way more to it than that due to the radio firmware.
    Um, not true at all. I had beta 1 on my iphone and downgraded with no problems at all.
    06-29-2011 09:09 AM
  22. hpcomputergeek's Avatar
    Remember, iOS 5 isn't really stable. It is still in beta right now. But the time is just like a normal iOS update. Doesn't take an hour or 2. It took me that long because I was at a hotel. When I do it from home just only 15-25 minutes and the update is done. Remember, register your UDID in a developer account!!!!!
    06-29-2011 11:33 AM
  23. iV1SHAL's Avatar
    That's odd, but there you go.
    From what I understand is that apple will stop signing 4.3.3 when either the final beta version is out or the GM build is release. But can't be sure on the exact date they will stop signing.
    06-29-2011 11:48 AM
  24. Garz's Avatar
    From what I understand is that apple will stop signing 4.3.3 when either the final beta version is out or the GM build is release. But can't be sure on the exact date they will stop signing.
    They will sign it until a few days after the official iOS hits. You cant stop signing 4.3.3 when iOs 5 is not even official.
    06-29-2011 01:29 PM
  25. iV1SHAL's Avatar
    They will sign it until a few days after the official iOS hits. You cant stop signing 4.3.3 when iOs 5 is not even official.
    Thats what I thought after I posted haha. Clarified...
    06-29-2011 07:24 PM
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