1. flyinion's Avatar
    For the longest time I have been running with the mute switch on all the time after noticing alarms would still play at whatever the "Ringer" volume was set to with "change with buttons" switched to on in "sound and haptics" in the Settings. I noticed randomly on iOS 12 and now 13 that if I snooze an alarm 1-2 times when it goes to play again I'll have overslept because it's going off silently. I don't know if it's a change in behavior with the mute switch or if it's more that because I have two alarms set 10 minutes apart they're interfering with each other if both try to go off at once somehow. Anyone have any input? Obviously I can just go back to turning the switch off and see if that fixes it. I think it started when I randomly forgot to turn it off after getting home from work and noticed it didn't affect alarms. So I started just leaving it muted since during the day I'll get notifications on my Watch or originally my FitBit that a call etc. was coming in.
    11-14-2019 01:10 PM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Have you left feedback with Apple regarding this matter? If not, do so and see what they tell you.

    As for me, I don’t ever use the snooze option. I’m typically awake before the alarm goes off and on the few occasions I’m not, I will **** off the alarm after it sounds and then immediately get out of bed and jump in the shower. I’ve been that way for what seems like forever....
    dmoskaluk likes this.
    11-14-2019 07:33 PM
  3. flyinion's Avatar
    Have you left feedback with Apple regarding this matter? If not, do so and see what they tell you.

    As for me, I don’t ever use the snooze option. I’m typically awake before the alarm goes off and on the few occasions I’m not, I will **** off the alarm after it sounds and then immediately get out of bed and jump in the shower. I’ve been that way for what seems like forever....
    Yeah I'm the guy that hits snooze 5 times first lol. Ugh. Well I also noticed this afternoon that somehow the ringer was all the way down. Now I wonder if this is some ongoing random bug with maybe Do Not Disturb mode not setting the ringer back after scheduled DND times if the mute switch is on. Going to try going back to no mute switch at home and see if this happens again I guess. Oh and no I didn't give Apple any feedback. Not really sure where I would do that? I'm not on a beta right now.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    11-14-2019 07:57 PM
  4. kataran's Avatar
    Why use the Mute switch when you can schedule DND and the alarm won’t be effected
    JandN2639 likes this.
    11-14-2019 09:21 PM
  5. doogald's Avatar
    Why use the Mute switch when you can schedule DND and the alarm won’t be effected
    I use both - I have the mute switch on 24x7. (However, I use alarms on my watch, not the iPhone.)

    However, count me in on the no snooze camp. Snooze is ridiculous. Why wake yourself up with an alarm before you have to wake up? It's far better for your health to get as much sleep as you can.Set the alarm for the time that you must be up and get yourself up when the alarm goes off.
    kataran likes this.
    11-15-2019 06:22 AM
  6. Annie_M's Avatar
    We actually have 4 alarms set, in 15 minute increments with different tones.
    11-15-2019 06:51 AM
  7. dmoskaluk's Avatar
    Have you left feedback with Apple regarding this matter? If not, do so and see what they tell you.

    As for me, I don’t ever use the snooze option. I’m typically awake before the alarm goes off and on the few occasions I’m not, I will **** off the alarm after it sounds and then immediately get out of bed and jump in the shower. I’ve been that way for what seems like forever....
    Well trained!! ( I think I know where )
    11-15-2019 08:39 AM
  8. flyinion's Avatar
    Well, it's apparently not the mute switch causing the issue. It did it again today. I think it must be some conflict with have more than one alarm set with snooze enabled.
    11-15-2019 12:45 PM
  9. dmoskaluk's Avatar
    I try to keep things like that as simple as I possibly can, fully realizing that when dealing with a ringing alarm I'm in 'personal twilight' and can't trust brain or fingers to obey the easiest of commands or logic. One of my half dozen or so alarms being active at a time is about all I can cope with
    11-15-2019 12:57 PM
  10. Tartarus's Avatar
    We actually have 4 alarms set, in 15 minute increments with different tones.
    Me too, but I do wake and stand up at the first alarm. The other 3 are there for just in case I miss the previous alarms.
    kataran and Annie_M like this.
    11-15-2019 01:07 PM
  11. JandN2639's Avatar
    My husband and I set two alarms, 30 minutes apart. We have never had any problems with them.
    11-15-2019 01:15 PM
  12. kataran's Avatar
    I always wake up at the first alarm but have been known to Trip on the bed post and fall back in bed unconscious
    Annie_M and iwoodland like this.
    11-15-2019 01:19 PM
  13. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    The Ring/Silent switch doesn't affect alarms. That's why it's not actually a "mute" switch, as it doesn't mute everything. The interval between the alarm and snooze is 9 minutes. So maybe 10 wasn't enough. I've set alarms close together with no issues. But usually set them 15 minutes apart.
    Annie_M likes this.
    11-15-2019 07:05 PM
  14. flyinion's Avatar
    Ok so I finally figured out what's going on, but I don't know what's causing it. Something keeps lowering my ringer volume (not me). Since the alarm volume is tied to the ringer volume, well, yeah.
    11-21-2019 12:44 PM
  15. Mars20's Avatar
    Under Sounds, has your ringer been set to "Change with buttons"? You may be inadvertently changing the volume.
    11-21-2019 12:52 PM
  16. flyinion's Avatar
    Under Sounds, has your ringer been set to "Change with buttons"? You may be inadvertently changing the volume.
    Yeah it's set like that, but 97% sure it's not me changing it. I pretty much only touch the volume if I'm watching something that needs it which is almost never on my phone and I usually have headphones plugged in at that point. Going to have to start checking it when I go to bed and see if something is changing it somehow overnight lol.
    11-21-2019 12:58 PM
  17. Mars20's Avatar
    You could just turn that setting off and make sure the ringer is set to max.
    11-21-2019 01:00 PM
  18. doogald's Avatar
    Yeah it's set like that, but 97% sure it's not me changing it.
    Any chance that the volume buttons are being pressed while the phone is in your pocket or something like that?

    One of the first things I change when I set up a phone from new is to turn off change ringer volume with buttons. I don't want it to ever change from where I set it.
    11-21-2019 05:29 PM
  19. flyinion's Avatar
    Any chance that the volume buttons are being pressed while the phone is in your pocket or something like that?

    One of the first things I change when I set up a phone from new is to turn off change ringer volume with buttons. I don't want it to ever change from where I set it.
    Not likely, it's in a Mous Limitless 3.0 which has buttons that while not stiff, you definitely have to actively push them.
    11-21-2019 06:39 PM
  20. camaroz1985's Avatar
    I just thought it was me. I was wondering why after I snooze a couple times (maybe only once even, obviously during this state is not when I do my best thinking) would my alarm just be vibrating and not making any sound. I do not have mine set to change with buttons. Luckily my wife wakes me up at a certain point, so its never been a problem of not waking up.
    11-22-2019 02:20 PM
  21. flyinion's Avatar
    Ok this just got even weirder. Before bed last night, phone was already in DND mode, mute switch off, confirmed ringer was at 1/2 volume. Woke up for some reason a few hours before alarms go off and randomly decided to check the phone which had been sitting on my Anker wireless charging pad as usual. Ringer was way down!!! This doesn't make any sense. I don't know if this is some general random glitch in iOS (though as I said I noticed it on 12.x as well on my X) or if there is something jacked up in my install and when I got my Pro Max I restored a secure backup of my X to the phone and maybe it brought something with it. I really don't want to do a clean setup without knowing for sure it would stop this behavior vs if I just have a misbehaving app.
    12-10-2019 01:01 PM
  22. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Ok this just got even weirder. Before bed last night, phone was already in DND mode, mute switch off, confirmed ringer was at 1/2 volume. Woke up for some reason a few hours before alarms go off and randomly decided to check the phone which had been sitting on my Anker wireless charging pad as usual. Ringer was way down!!! This doesn't make any sense. I don't know if this is some general random glitch in iOS (though as I said I noticed it on 12.x as well on my X) or if there is something jacked up in my install and when I got my Pro Max I restored a secure backup of my X to the phone and maybe it brought something with it. I really don't want to do a clean setup without knowing for sure it would stop this behavior vs if I just have a misbehaving app.
    Do you have "change with buttons" turned off in settings>sounds? If so, toggle it on.
    You might also try turning off "Attention Aware" under Face ID.
    12-10-2019 01:25 PM
  23. flyinion's Avatar
    Change with buttons is actually turned on, been that way since I swapped to Apple a few years ago. Hmm yeah I do have attention aware turned on right now. What kind of effect would you think that would have? I actually had it turned off on my X which also would randomly have this issue though.
    12-10-2019 01:28 PM
  24. flyinion's Avatar
    Ohhhh, it was "require attention for FaceID" that I had turned off. Hmm, so I see in the description for attention aware features something about lowering the volume. How does that interact with the volume? Just trying to understand how the feature works to understand how it might be causing this.
    12-10-2019 01:30 PM
  25. doogald's Avatar
    I'd also think about charging with a cable just to see if there is something about Qi charging that changes the volume unexpectedly.

    The first thing I do after a new install is turn off change volume with buttons. I definitely don't want the ringer turning down unexpectedly with accident volume button presses while the phone is in my pocket. Why would turning that on help things? That said, is the alarm actually using the ringer & alert volume? I'd go into the clock app, edit an alarm, tap "sound", tap one of the sounds and set the volume as it plays the sample. That, I think, is the volume that is used for alarms (mine went up as I changed the volume up.)
    12-10-2019 01:52 PM
30 12

Similar Threads

  1. Charge 2 devices with RAVPower's portable power bank on sale for $18
    By iMore.com in forum iMore.com News Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-14-2019, 04:24 PM
  2. The Bose SoundSport headphones have dropped to just $34 at Walmart
    By iMore.com in forum iMore.com News Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-14-2019, 12:01 PM
  3. Your TV could be smarter with the Amazon Fire TV Stick on sale for only $20
    By iMore.com in forum iMore.com News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-14-2019, 09:40 AM
  4. Enroll in Apple's three new landmark health studies using the new Research
    By iMore.com in forum iMore.com News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-14-2019, 09:22 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD