1. flyinion's Avatar
    OK can someone please explain what happens now with this beta 13.1.?

    What happens when ios13 official is released if I now update to Beta 13.1.? Does that mean that then I will have to downgrade to iOS 13?

    This is my first beta and I am confused...
    Same, makes me wonder if they're going straight to 13.1 for release with the new phones/etc. Read a article that this is like the first time this has happened and when the dev beta came out yesterday they were trying to figure out if it was a naming error.
    08-28-2019 01:16 PM
  2. Ed7789's Avatar
    I’m skipping the 13.1 Beta 1, summer I will be upgrading my iPhone on release day, which is likely to require the release version to do so.
    08-28-2019 01:22 PM
  3. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    OK can someone please explain what happens now with this beta 13.1.?

    What happens when ios13 official is released if I now update to Beta 13.1.? Does that mean that then I will have to downgrade to iOS 13?

    This is my first beta and I am confused...
    You don't do anything. Whatever beta you're on will be what everyone else gets. You'll still have the beta profile, and when there's another beta update, you'll have it to download.
    08-28-2019 01:23 PM
  4. oladob's Avatar
    I talked the beta on my Max last evening. Love the dark mode and it really does seem faster. All seems to be good so far.
    It definitely feels faster
    08-29-2019 12:45 AM
  5. montecito79's Avatar
    You don't do anything. Whatever beta you're on will be what everyone else gets. You'll still have the beta profile, and when there's another beta update, you'll have it to download.
    But what happens if I upgrade on 13.1. Beta and after that delete my Beta profile? Can I switch to ios13 official public release without downgrading? What happens with ios 13 GM? Is that update coming or not?
    Last edited by montecito79; 08-29-2019 at 02:45 AM.
    08-29-2019 02:20 AM
  6. Ed7789's Avatar
    My understanding is that you are getting moved over to iOS 13.1, so iOS 13.0 will be a downgrade for the system.

    About iOS 13.0 GM, rumours have it that it is still on its way; it wouldn't make sense to release 13.1 if 13.0 hasn't been released. Apple may have frozen it for release (aka no major changes prior to release). Only they know.
    08-29-2019 07:56 AM
  7. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    My understanding is that you are getting moved over to iOS 13.1, so iOS 13.0 will be a downgrade for the system.

    About iOS 13.0 GM, rumours have it that it is still on its way; it wouldn't make sense to release 13.1 if 13.0 hasn't been released. Apple may have frozen it for release (aka no major changes prior to release). Only they know.
    Why would it not make sense to release 13.1 as the GM release? It fixed the issues in Mail. It wouldn't make sense to me to release 13.0 as the GM, when 13.1 is available with the Mail issues resolved. Time will tell, I suppose.
    08-29-2019 08:59 AM
  8. montecito79's Avatar
    Simplifying it:
    If I go to 13.1. Beta will I be able to go on 13.0. Official release?
    08-29-2019 09:32 AM
  9. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Simplifying it:
    If I go to 13.1. Beta will I be able to go on 13.0. Official release?
    I'm not sure there will be a 13.0 (nomenclature) release, but it doesn't matter what the beta number is you will still be able to get the Official release when available.
    08-29-2019 09:38 AM
  10. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Simplifying it:
    If I go to 13.1. Beta will I be able to go on 13.0. Official release?
    No you will not be able to get 13.0 if it is released. You would have to wait for 13.1.

    My guess is they freeze 13.0, that is what they will ship on new phones, but by the time they are in people's hands 13.1 will be available and released to fix the remaining issues with 13.0. I have nothing to base this on, it's just a hypothesis.
    08-29-2019 10:18 AM
  11. Ed7789's Avatar
    Why would it not make sense to release 13.1 as the GM release? It fixed the issues in Mail. It wouldn't make sense to me to release 13.0 as the GM, when 13.1 is available with the Mail issues resolved. Time will tell, I suppose.
    They could rebadge the whatever version of 13 to be 13.0 and release it like that. It’s just a number.
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    08-29-2019 03:16 PM
  12. Al Paca's Avatar
    I spoke with Apple Support. They would not discuss specific number and dot releases, etc when it comes to the GM release. After speaking to a supervisor the final response was I had two options:

    Continue with Beta program and download new betas as they come out or...

    The date of the official iOS release, delete my beta profile from the device and try to check for a software update...

    I asked multiple times at if I’m on 13.1 beta and they release 13.0 what happens. She kept saying regardless if the GM is 13.0 my device when restarted will reflect 13.0 even if the beta was 13.1 but if the GM is actually 13.1 I’ll remain on 13.1, but if it’s higher than 13.1 I’ll be given an update. It was slightly confusing but thoughts are it simply will not matter, stay on beta and enjoy early potentially buggy updates or go off beta and run the GM released version and the “number” will take care of itself. You can’t get “virtually stuck on 13.1 in beta and unable to get to 13.0 GM release”. Hopefully that makes some sense.
    08-29-2019 07:47 PM
  13. montecito79's Avatar
    Thanx, good to know
    08-30-2019 02:05 AM
  14. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I spoke with Apple Support. They would not discuss specific number and dot releases, etc when it comes to the GM release. After speaking to a supervisor the final response was I had two options:

    Continue with Beta program and download new betas as they come out or...

    The date of the official iOS release, delete my beta profile from the device and try to check for a software update...

    I asked multiple times at if I’m on 13.1 beta and they release 13.0 what happens. She kept saying regardless if the GM is 13.0 my device when restarted will reflect 13.0 even if the beta was 13.1 but if the GM is actually 13.1 I’ll remain on 13.1, but if it’s higher than 13.1 I’ll be given an update. It was slightly confusing but thoughts are it simply will not matter, stay on beta and enjoy early potentially buggy updates or go off beta and run the GM released version and the “number” will take care of itself. You can’t get “virtually stuck on 13.1 in beta and unable to get to 13.0 GM release”. Hopefully that makes some sense.
    Updates going forward should not be buggy.
    08-30-2019 09:12 AM
  15. pr1nce's Avatar
    I spoke with Apple Support. They would not discuss specific number and dot releases, etc when it comes to the GM release. After speaking to a supervisor the final response was I had two options:

    Continue with Beta program and download new betas as they come out or...

    The date of the official iOS release, delete my beta profile from the device and try to check for a software update...

    I asked multiple times at if I’m on 13.1 beta and they release 13.0 what happens. She kept saying regardless if the GM is 13.0 my device when restarted will reflect 13.0 even if the beta was 13.1 but if the GM is actually 13.1 I’ll remain on 13.1, but if it’s higher than 13.1 I’ll be given an update. It was slightly confusing but thoughts are it simply will not matter, stay on beta and enjoy early potentially buggy updates or go off beta and run the GM released version and the “number” will take care of itself. You can’t get “virtually stuck on 13.1 in beta and unable to get to 13.0 GM release”. Hopefully that makes some sense.
    Seems a little confusing. I’ll keep 13.1 on my 6s and I’ll keep running 12.4 on my XR. Just waiting for the GM build for the XR.
    08-30-2019 12:25 PM
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