1. msm0511's Avatar
    Compared to the BB10 calendar where I can see at a glance every day in the month where I have the most free/busy times.
    Calendar and Mail were supposed to be 2 of the stock apps getting a whole new redesign, but Apple supposedly pushed a lot of that stuff from iOS 12 to 13 to work on stability.
    05-22-2018 01:47 PM
  2. ssbtech's Avatar
    Great, so now I get to wait 2 years to see if apple has the brains to include the functionality of a 5 year old BlackBerry.

    Tell me again why business users find iPhone appealing?
    05-22-2018 01:50 PM
  3. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Wow, I'll say it's bad.

    In this view, how do I know what days are busier and which days I have a lighter load? That's what a calendar is supposed to do - show me what my month looks like.
    Maybe once you get accustomed to it.
    See your events by tapping on the icon shown here.
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    05-22-2018 03:28 PM
  4. ssbtech's Avatar
    That only shows it for the selected day. If you have a calendar on the wall, it's easy to see the whole month at a glance. That's what the BB10 calendar emulates nicely and what iOS makes no effort to do.
    05-22-2018 04:37 PM
  5. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    That only shows it for the selected day. If you have a calendar on the wall, it's easy to see the whole month at a glance. That's what the BB10 calendar emulates nicely and what iOS makes no effort to do.
    There's plenty of 3rd party Calendar apps that have more features. Fantastical 2 and Calendars by Readdle are both nice.
    05-22-2018 05:07 PM
  6. ssbtech's Avatar
    Something odd about having to buy a 3rd party calendar on a phone the price of the X.

    Anyway, do Fantastical 2 and Calendars by Readdle both support Exchange?
    05-22-2018 06:55 PM
  7. doogald's Avatar
    Something odd about having to buy a 3rd party calendar on a phone the price of the X.
    Like personal computers, I think that limiting phones to stock apps only is like only riding a bicycle even if you have to travel 500 miles every once in a while. If a. third party app solves a problem for you, is it better to save the money or keep using the phone in a non-productive way out of principal?

    Anyway, do Fantastical 2 and Calendars by Readdle both support Exchange?


    Fantastical, yes. I haven't used Readdle's app.

    The free Outlook app also has calendar support, though I'm not sure that it's month view is all that better (I don't use the account I usually use for calendar sync with Outlook so I cannot say for sure.)
    05-22-2018 08:20 PM
  8. ssbtech's Avatar
    The free Outlook app doesn't do what I want either.

    If there's no way to change the default app (as is the case with iOS) then there absolutely is a case for making the native apps feature-rich and flexible. What the heck has Apple been doing for the last 5 years? iOS feels less capable than BB10 did when it first came out and everyone was whining about lack of features before it got some nice updates.
    05-22-2018 08:23 PM
  9. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    The free Outlook app doesn't do what I want either.

    If there's no way to change the default app (as is the case with iOS) then there absolutely is a case for making the native apps feature-rich and flexible. What the heck has Apple been doing for the last 5 years? iOS feels less capable than BB10 did when it first came out and everyone was whining about lack of features before it got some nice updates.
    If it's all that important to you, then I suggest you go back to what you had. Maybe the iPhone and iOS is just not for you.
    05-22-2018 11:54 PM
  10. ssbtech's Avatar
    I need to be able to rename photos. Anyone recommend an appointment that can do that? Why isn't this in the native photos or files app?
    05-23-2018 03:16 PM
  11. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I need to be able to rename photos. Anyone recommend an appointment that can do that? Why isn't this in the native photos or files app?
    It can't be done in the photos app with photos taken with the phone. But you can rename photos from another source in apps like Box or Dropbox. Those should retain the new name.
    05-23-2018 04:40 PM
  12. ssbtech's Avatar
    So what *can* people do with these things?

    Beautiful hardware crippled by feature-thin software. After all these years of people telling me to "get a real phone" I finally do and it's far more primitive than I could have imagined.
    05-23-2018 04:46 PM
  13. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    So what *can* people do with these things?

    Beautiful hardware crippled by feature-thin software. After all these years of people telling me to "get a real phone" I finally do and it's far more primitive than I could have imagined.
    See my correction. You can rename photos in Box or Dropbox. But if taken with the phone's camera, they revert back when saved. Again, maybe the iPhone is just not for you.
    05-23-2018 04:50 PM
  14. Tartarus's Avatar
    So what *can* people do with these things?

    Beautiful hardware crippled by feature-thin software. After all these years of people telling me to "get a real phone" I finally do and it's far more primitive than I could have imagined.
    I don’t feel like Apple cripples their hardware.
    Instead of renaming photos you could put them in albums and give that a title. Apple uses the date and location (if enabled for the camera) to categorize photos and make managing them simpler.

    I used to rename photos on my windows computer to date and time, but stopped doing that altogether when I enabled iCloud Photo Library.
    05-23-2018 04:59 PM
  15. doogald's Avatar
    99% of people don’t rename photos. 99% of people don’t use server based email rules to sort their incoming email. 99% of people don’t need the month view in the calendar that you describe. Apple tends to try to keep things simple rather than complicated. Just the way it is.

    I think that there are phones that can do the things you need them to do, but my guess is that you just bought the wrong one. You have (or had) 14 days to exchange it; that should be plenty of time to discover whether this phone isn’t good enough for what you need from it.
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    05-23-2018 07:34 PM
  16. ssbtech's Avatar
    Bull. Anyone using outlook on the desktop who has folders set up will be using some forms of message rules.

    A calendar should give you a good idea of when you have free or busy times coming up.

    Anyone taking photos say of equipment in the field benefits from being able to tag them with a description of some sort.

    Apple's arrogance clearly shines through every aspect of this phone.

    Please tell me there's a way to silence the "SMS sent" sound without having to silence the whole device?
    05-24-2018 03:48 PM
  17. doogald's Avatar
    Seriously, if you are within 14 days, return the phone for a refund. You bought the wrong device for you. If you're not within 14 days, you may even want to take the loss on selling it ASAP. It isn't worth the complaining you are doing over a smartphone, so get the one that works for you.
    05-24-2018 05:44 PM
  18. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ...

    Tell me again why business users find iPhone appealing?
    It obviously suits some business users’ needs. Of course, there are some business users who need something more. Thankfully, there are 3rd-party choices available to suit an assortment of needs.
    05-24-2018 05:59 PM
  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Something odd about having to buy a 3rd party calendar on a phone the price of the X.
    Nope. That’s not odd at all. Regardless of platform, if there’s an App Store that sells apps created by developers, there will always be a desire to create something better than the native apps.
    05-24-2018 06:04 PM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ....
    Apple's arrogance clearly shines through every aspect of this phone.

    ...
    Oh I see......You are another non-Apple fan to come along to stir the pot in the form of making comparisons about what the iPhone can’t do in comparison to your preferred brand. We already know that the iPhone or Apple will never appeal to everyone and we already know that folks like you will come here to an Apple-centric site to make sure we all know that the iPhone we choose to use pales in comparison to the one you prefer. We do not care!

    Now in regard to Blackberry, many of us here at iMore are former Blackberry users. In fact, I’m probably one of RIM’s most loyal fanatics or at least I was. Blackberry, is all but gone.

    With all its superiority, why isn’t it outselling the iPhone? Why isn’t it the most widely used mobile platform like Android? Why are businesses who were once flooded with Blackberry devices now flooded with iPhones?

    Are they all stupid or are they smart enough to make use of their iPhones whether with native apps, 3rd-party apps or a combination of both?

    Does the iPhone fit one’s smartphone and business needs? Some will say yes and some will say no, and since misery loves company, the rest spend their time spewing horse manure in a forum full of people who prefer Apple products and services instead of contacting Apple directly. Does that about sum it up?
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 05-24-2018 at 07:16 PM.
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    05-24-2018 06:33 PM
  21. ssbtech's Avatar
    Right, I dropped $1300 on a new phone just so I could come here and whine about it.

    The problem with fanboys is they rarely speak up about a device's shortcomings. In their mind, Apple can do no wrong and needs no improvement. Everything is perfect, and they line up at the Apple store in the pouring rain 24hrs ahead of every launch for the next big product.

    True brand fans will look at a product objectively, identify weaknesses and voice their feedback.

    Why isn't BlackBerry ahead? It's clear they failed to innovate and gain developer support, but by the time people realized their iPhones lacked basic features such as copy and paste they were already getting locked into the ecosystem by the Apple marketing machine.

    I'm sorry I came here passionately looking for help on features I thought would be standard on these devices by now. I've taken flack from Apple fans for years for not "getting with the times" and now I'm here, a $1300 iPhone X later and now I still get crapped on by Apple fans. I just can't win.
    05-24-2018 07:16 PM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Right, I dropped $1300 on a new phone just so I could come here and whine about it.

    The problem with fanboys is they rarely speak up about a device's shortcomings. In their mind, Apple can do no wrong and needs no improvement. Everything is perfect, and they line up at the Apple store in the pouring rain 24hrs ahead of every launch for the next big product.

    True brand fans will look at a product objectively, identify weaknesses and voice their feedback.

    Why isn't BlackBerry ahead? It's clear they failed to innovate and gain developer support, but by the time people realized their iPhones lacked basic features such as copy and paste they were already getting locked into the ecosystem by the Apple marketing machine.

    I'm sorry I came here passionately looking for help on features I thought would be standard on these devices by now. I've taken flack from Apple fans for years for not "getting with the times" and now I'm here, a $1300 iPhone X later and now I still get crapped on by Apple fans. I just can't win.
    You’re not getting crapped on at all. You’re receiving exactly what you’re putting out. Here at iMore, we are very quick to offer assistance on how to use your Apple products and services, but we can’t help those who aren’t really here to be helped. If you’re smart enough to use a Blackberry device and know that the user experience on an iPhone is different from what you’re used to or different from what you prefer then you’re smart enough, or at least should be smart enough, to be able to figure out how to best make your $1300 smartphone work in your favor.
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 05-24-2018 at 07:50 PM.
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    05-24-2018 07:22 PM
  23. doogald's Avatar
    I'm sorry I came here passionately looking for help on features I thought would be standard on these devices by now.
    But when people suggest alternatives, you just complain on the alternatives. You complain about Apple not supporting basic features, but aren't complaining about Microsoft also not supporting folder notifications for the app that they make specifically to connect to your Exchange email account. You mention spending $1300 on a phone, but when somebody suggests a $5 calendar app, you reject it as too expensive.

    If you want to edit photo names, use a service like Dropbox or OneDrive which automatically uploads photos from the iPhone to their service. (They all support this.) I know for sure that you can manage and rename the photos within OneDrive and DropBox apps on the iPhone, or you can sync photos to a computer and manage your photos there (including renaming them.) I would also suggest Google Photos is the same (not sure about renaming), or Google Drive, and Google Photos allows unlimited uploads of photos to their service, but you've already said that you don't want to be Google's product. So, I guess it's pay for DropBox or OneDrive or Box (not sure about that one.)

    Or, like I said, please return the phone already and get a better phone for you.
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    05-24-2018 07:46 PM
  24. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    But when people suggest alternatives, you just complain on the alternatives. You complain about Apple not supporting basic features, but aren't complaining about Microsoft also not supporting folder notifications for the app that they make specifically to connect to your Exchange email account. You mention spending $1300 on a phone, but when somebody suggests a $5 calendar app, you reject it as too expensive.

    If you want to edit photo names, use a service like Dropbox or OneDrive which automatically uploads photos from the iPhone to their service. (They all support this.) I know for sure that you can manage and rename the photos within OneDrive and DropBox apps on the iPhone, or you can sync photos to a computer and manage your photos there (including renaming them.) I would also suggest Google Photos is the same (not sure about renaming), or Google Drive, and Google Photos allows unlimited uploads of photos to their service, but you've already said that you don't want to be Google's product. So, I guess it's pay for DropBox or OneDrive or Box (not sure about that one.)

    Or, like I said, please return the phone already and get a better phone for you.
    Yes, you can rename photos in Box. And I was wrong about photos taken with the device not retaining the new name. They do. They used to not.
    05-25-2018 07:34 AM
  25. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Right, I dropped $1300 on a new phone just so I could come here and whine about it.

    The problem with fanboys is they rarely speak up about a device's shortcomings. In their mind, Apple can do no wrong and needs no improvement. Everything is perfect, and they line up at the Apple store in the pouring rain 24hrs ahead of every launch for the next big product.

    True brand fans will look at a product objectively, identify weaknesses and voice their feedback.

    Why isn't BlackBerry ahead? It's clear they failed to innovate and gain developer support, but by the time people realized their iPhones lacked basic features such as copy and paste they were already getting locked into the ecosystem by the Apple marketing machine.

    I'm sorry I came here passionately looking for help on features I thought would be standard on these devices by now. I've taken flack from Apple fans for years for not "getting with the times" and now I'm here, a $1300 iPhone X later and now I still get crapped on by Apple fans. I just can't win.
    No one is "crapping" on you. We're trying to help you see how you can fulfill your needs with the iPhone. But in your case, it will take a few 3rd party apps. I have Fantastical 2 and Calendars by Readdle. But don't use them, because the stock Calendar suits my needs, as it does for millions of other users. Many of the 3rd party apps are great. Research them, and see which ones suit your needs. In time, you will adapt to doing things the iPhone way. And if you need help or suggestions, we'll be here.
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    05-25-2018 07:58 AM
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