1. Damien_Eternal's Avatar
    There’s A LOT of code, and A LOT of new stuff, even if we don’t see a lot of it. One change in code can change how code works in numerous other areas. That’s why they use developers to beta test. Find where the software fails and how to reproduce it so they can fix the code in all the right places. Even that may end borking the code elsewhere again. That’s where this hilarious coding joke comes from, “99 bugs in the code, 99 bugs, fix a bug and patch it around, 105 bugs in the code.” Or something along those lines. The more complex these codes become the more bugs there will be and the more updates will be required to fix them.
    Exactly right. iOS has millions of lines of code all together, Im sure. Maybe even tens of millions. A change in a few lines of code here, even if it seems almost inconsequential can totally change how the code there in another part of the OS works all together. These things are SO much more complex than what most people can even dream of knowing or understanding. One error, one typo in the code can totally break an entire system and finding these tiny errors can be like looking for a very specific needle in a needle stack. This is inherent to all complex software, and even more so with an OS that not only has to support itself, but everything running on top of it as well. Thats why there are both dev and public beta testers. The more people using it, the more usage scenarios come up, and the more likely that the obscure bugs are found before it goes out as a final version. There will always be bugs even in the Gold Master, but the hope is that the bigger and uglier ones have been squashed.
    07-10-2017 04:13 PM
  2. thedonp's Avatar
    Loving the feedback so far
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    07-10-2017 05:50 PM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    If I exit an app and swipe to a new screen immediately, I get a flicker of the app I'm exiting on the top left corner of the screen. Very annoying.
    That’s not happening on my iPhone , but I did notice it happening in my iPad Pro shortly after installing the new dev beta. It’s currently turned off and on the charger. I’ll test it out again later on.
    Tartarus likes this.
    07-10-2017 07:52 PM
  4. Garz's Avatar
    That’s not happening on my iPhone , but I did notice it happening in my iPad Pro shortly after installing the new dev beta. It’s currently turned off and on the charger. I’ll test it out again later on.
    A couple of other people I know running the beta and they are able to duplicate the problem. So I know it's not just me.
    07-10-2017 08:06 PM
  5. joxer007's Avatar
    My update is stuck at this point. I tried a reset. Still stuck
    07-10-2017 08:46 PM
  6. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    My update is stuck at this point. I tried a reset. Still stuck https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...20e28ca6f6.png
    It’s not stuck, something about iOS 11 updates are weird like that. They sit on Preparing, and it may disappear, then it starts installing.
    07-10-2017 08:53 PM
  7. Tpence2177's Avatar
    Hmmm. I'm on call this weekend, but after that I may try a beta to see what iOS 11 is all about. 10.3.2 is running just fine on my 6 plus though so I hate to screw with it.
    07-10-2017 08:57 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    A couple of other people I know running the beta and they are able to duplicate the problem. So I know it's not just me.
    I don’t doubt you at all, especially when I noticed the same thing on my iPad Pro. I just haven’t noticed it on my iPhone yet.
    07-10-2017 09:04 PM
  9. Garz's Avatar
    I don’t doubt you at all, especially when I noticed the same thing on my iPad Pro. I just haven’t noticed it on my iPhone yet.
    I don’t have it on my iPad but glad you can confirm it there. I’ll stay on 10.3.3 then for my iPad. Lol.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    07-10-2017 09:28 PM
  10. Garz's Avatar
    How’s everyone’s battery? So far mine sucks unfortunately.
    07-10-2017 09:30 PM
  11. ladyc0524's Avatar
    How’s everyone’s battery? So far mine sucks unfortunately.
    Mine sucks on the iPad. I have the 9.7” iPad Pro
    07-10-2017 09:57 PM
  12. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    How’s everyone’s battery? So far mine sucks unfortunately.
    So far so good....
    RECON1 likes this.
    07-10-2017 10:22 PM
  13. joxer007's Avatar
    It’s not stuck, something about iOS 11 updates are weird like that. They sit on Preparing, and it may disappear, then it starts installing.
    It’s been like that for the last 3hrs
    07-10-2017 10:25 PM
  14. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Mine sucks on the iPad. I have the 9.7” iPad Pro
    I was doing all sorts of business-related stuff on my iPad Pro today and I was still using battery power when I upgraded to the latest dev beta so I’m not sure about battery life on it. I put it on the charger when it had approximately 29% battery life remaining and I haven’t used it since.
    07-10-2017 10:25 PM
  15. ladyc0524's Avatar
    I was doing all sorts of business-related stuff on my iPad Pro today and I was still using battery power when I upgraded to the latest dev beta so I’m not sure about battery life on it. I put it on the charger when it has approximately 29% battery life remaining and I haven’t used it since.
    Yeah I don’t know what the issue was this evening. Going to start fresh tomorrow and keep an eye on how quickly it drains.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    07-10-2017 10:26 PM
  16. Garz's Avatar
    Yeah I don’t know what the issue was this evening. Going to start fresh tomorrow and keep an eye on how quickly it drains.
    I always want to start fresh but setting back up and pairing the watch I just don't have the time or patience for.
    07-10-2017 10:33 PM
  17. ladyc0524's Avatar
    I always want to start fresh but setting back up and pairing the watch I just don't have the time or patience for.
    Yeah it is. I’m just going to do the iPad though. Phone is fine.
    07-10-2017 10:35 PM
  18. chefjayhawk's Avatar
    So far my battery life seems a touch better than beta 2. Both on my phone and 9.7 Pro. Definitely smoother, with a lot of bugs fixed. Still loving it. I can deal with battery life. I always have it plugged in or extra battery around.
    07-10-2017 10:51 PM
  19. RECON1's Avatar
    So far my battery life seems a touch better than beta 2. Both on my phone and 9.7 Pro. Definitely smoother, with a lot of bugs fixed. Still loving it. I can deal with battery life. I always have it plugged in or extra battery around.
    Yeah, so far I’ve noticed it’s a lot smoother. In the previous betas though, it would eventually get a little janky. So we shall seee.
    07-10-2017 10:54 PM
  20. chefjayhawk's Avatar
    I have noticed on the iPad Pro 9.7, when you tap the Apple Pencil on the lock screen, it opens Notes but immediately crashes. So I hope they notice that and fix it. Was really looking forward to using that feature more.
    07-10-2017 10:58 PM
  21. RECON1's Avatar
    Mine sucks on the iPad. I have the 9.7” iPad Pro
    Mines doesn’t seem very good.
    07-10-2017 11:42 PM
  22. Chuck_IV's Avatar
    Still seeing lag in the iMessage app. When typing and the cursor goes to a new line, there is about a second delay before it drops to the new line.

    Also when touching the send button, there is a delay of about a second before you hear the send sound and see the bubble.

    Otherwise, things seem smoother.
    Last edited by Chuck_IV; 07-11-2017 at 01:26 AM.
    07-11-2017 12:49 AM
  23. Tartarus's Avatar
    How’s everyone’s battery? So far mine sucks unfortunately.
    It’s on par with beta 2. I other words, not that great. Beta 1 had better battery life.
    07-11-2017 01:59 AM
  24. Garz's Avatar
    I decided to spend my night and start fresh and restore. It didn’t solve any of the issues I was having. Oh well.
    07-11-2017 03:09 AM
  25. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Ooh, my Bluetooth issues seem to be fixed. I noticed I was listening to music with my BeatsX just fine with my phone at 27%. So far I haven’t had any issues with A/V transferring either. Smart Invert is getting a little bit better, but still no dark mode.
    07-11-2017 03:12 AM
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