1. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I think Apple has made some improvements, like putting the Apple ID menu at the top, but it's still rough. That being said, it's been a few years since I've messed around with the settings on an Android device. What are they doing today that's better than iOS?
    Android's settings menu (since at least early 2014) is just much smaller and simpler. It's a small fraction of the size of the implementation in iOS, despite Android supposedly being more configurable. The layout seems logical and things are easy to find (and there's a search function) - compare with, for example, the "general" tab in iOS, which is an unsorted dumping ground for a variety of functions that seem to belong elsewhere. Setting (pun intended) aside the usual partisan preferences, Android simply does this better than iOS at the moment.

    The settings menu is an important part of a mobile platform. After all, in the end iOS and Android are little more than platforms to run apps. Most of the time that we use a phone, we are actually using an app, and it makes little difference whether the phone runs iOS, Android or something else. The settings menu is one of the few points of real differentiation.
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    07-25-2017 08:46 AM
  2. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Android's settings menu (since at least early 2014) is just much smaller and simpler. It's a small fraction of the size of the implementation in iOS, despite Android supposedly being more configurable. The layout seems logical and things are easy to find (and there's a search function) - compare with, for example, the "general" tab in iOS, which is an unsorted dumping ground for a variety of functions that seem to belong elsewhere. Setting (pun intended) aside the usual partisan preferences, Android simply does this better than iOS at the moment.

    The settings menu is an important part of a mobile platform. After all, in the end iOS and Android are little more than platforms to run apps. Most of the time that we use a phone, we are actually using an app, and it makes little difference whether the phone runs iOS, Android or something else. The settings menu is one of the few points of real differentiation.
    Thanks. We certainly don't agree on everything (and we shouldn't) but you brought up some really good points. One of my main reasons for switching to iPhone in 2010 was that iOS had a much better selection of quality apps compared to Android. Obviously that advantage has diminished quite a bit but the apps are still the best thing about the platform.
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    07-25-2017 09:43 AM
  3. Trigati's Avatar
    I'm not really defending it, just saying your opinion is not as popular as you may think.  is known for simplicity, and the Settings on iOS is as simple as it gets. I've used Android devices, and even the settings is a mess.
    I completely disagree. @anony_mouse wrote a very good post about the differences between the settings menus in each platform a couple of posts up.

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    07-25-2017 10:03 AM
  4. scruffypig's Avatar
    I forgot to mention multitasking. Hopefully Apple take a few ques from Android. Ex I'm watching YouTube, while replying to this thread.
    I can watch a video with picture in picture with my iPad. I am not at all interested in doing this on my iPhone.
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    07-25-2017 10:17 AM
  5. redbirdsfan's Avatar
    I can watch a video with picture in picture with my iPad. I am not at all interested in doing this on my iPhone.
    That's fine, however I was speaking on the way I use my device. I'm aware that pip is possible with the native video player (on the iPad)
    07-25-2017 10:20 AM
  6. Lee_Bo's Avatar
    Hate is such a strong word, but there are a few things I don't like about iOS. It must be known, however, that I came from Nexus devices so backups and custom roms were a weekly / almost daily thing for me. :-)

    The biggest thing I don't like is lack of customization, specifically a transparent dock. I'd love to be able to see ALL of my wallpaper when I look at my screen.

    However, in the 15 months I've been on iOS from Android, I have not had and real complaints about the device or the ecosystem.
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    07-25-2017 11:10 AM
  7. anony_mouse's Avatar
    It's cool that iOS is Unix but I don't like the fact that it's based largely on FreeBSD when everyone knows that's the lamest BSD. OpenBSD and NetBSD rock.
    07-26-2017 02:36 AM
  8. Luke pruitt's Avatar
    hate is a little too strong, I don't really hate anything about ios 11. I love running the beta and it's cool, but dropping the old 32 bit/need to be updated apps has caused a lot of consternation with the kids, some of their favorite games won't work now (I know that's the app developer's problem not the ios). Also I miss 3D touch on the edge of my iPhone to bring up the app switcher, but I'm hoping something better is in the works like on the iPad version of the ios 11 switcher.
    07-27-2017 08:42 AM
  9. masaoota's Avatar
    I hate the way you move and position the cursor on the screen with your finger. Still never works easily for me and the way the magnifying glass positions itself is counter intuitive.
    The fact the onscreen keyboard doesn't have numbers or easy access to them (maybe this is being fixed in iOS11) as it makes typing really slow
    App switching is really slow without a keyboard - again may get better with iOS11
    Files not syncing to the devices drive
    07-27-2017 09:37 AM
  10. indoctrahol's Avatar
    I completely agree with this. The only work around is to have iTunes match, match your library to the cloud, then you can use the Apple Music app to download anything on your music app. It will also go into any third party app that you may be using.

    I use this all the time.

    In conjunction, you can also remote back to your computer to put music into iTunes, let iTunes match throw it in the cloud and download. It's a work around, but I do it a lot.
    07-27-2017 09:42 AM
  11. Wildo6882's Avatar
    - Default apps
    - Alarm volume is linked to device volume
    - Settings are a jumbled mess in my opinion (after almost two years I still have to hunt for stuff)
    - Why for the love of dog do I HAVE to have my icons in a static grid?
    - Notifications suck - please group them by app at least, it's just a cluster eff
    - No split screen even in the Plus phone
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    07-27-2017 10:06 AM
  12. stevebert's Avatar
    My pet peeve is Music EQ. Why is it buried so deep in preferences when it should be up on the current playing song panel? I listen to many genres of music, even in the same sitting. I think that EQ should be quickly accessible. At the very least, assign default EQs for genres of music, or for the particular headphones or Bluetooth connected device. Just my 2¢.
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    07-27-2017 11:10 AM
  13. Trigati's Avatar
    - Alarm volume is linked to device volume
    Yes and no. Unless you don't want max volume on your alarms, there's a setting switch to not change alarm volume with the volume rockers.. Its been in iOS for a long time.
    07-27-2017 11:59 AM
  14. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Yes and no. Unless you don't want max volume on your alarms, there's a setting switch to not change alarm volume with the volume rockers.. Its been in iOS for a long time.
    If you use the bedtime setting in the clock, which has only been available since iOS 10. But if I have different alarms, they are the same as my ring volume. It can't be hard to have a completely different setting.
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    07-27-2017 12:01 PM
  15. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I completely agree with this. The only work around is to have iTunes match, match your library to the cloud, then you can use the Apple Music app to download anything on your music app. It will also go into any third party app that you may be using.

    I use this all the time.

    In conjunction, you can also remote back to your computer to put music into iTunes, let iTunes match throw it in the cloud and download. It's a work around, but I do it a lot.
    To whom are you in agreement?
    07-27-2017 01:04 PM
  16. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ... At the very least, assign default EQs for genres of music, or for the particular headphones or Bluetooth connected device. Just my 2¢.
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    07-27-2017 01:09 PM
  17. comiken205's Avatar
    The only thing I dislike is having to use iTunes to make or use a ringtone. There are apps on Android I use to use to make a ringtone or download one with no issues. Frustrating but not a deal killer.
    07-27-2017 01:13 PM
  18. stevebert's Avatar
    You misunderstand my request. What you're pointing at are manual PRESET EQ settings. You have to manually switch from one to another (or "Off/Flat" to disable) by navigating down to Settings>Music>EQ. This setting does not change when different genres of music play one after the other. Also the labels on these EQ settings are not mapped to any actual genre in the Music app (this EQ scheme has been around since early iPod days). What I would like to see are EQ settings that are automatically activated when particular tracks play that are tagged as Classical, Rock, Heavy Rock, Jazz, etc. For instance, I could pick the "Jazz" EQ as the default for classical, jazz or world music, but "Off" as the default for all other music genres. My other, equally imported, request is that EQ setting be promoted to the top level of the Music app so that I can quickly change EQ without having to navigate back to settings.
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    07-27-2017 03:18 PM
  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    You misunderstand my request. What you're pointing at are manual PRESET EQ settings. You have to manually switch from one to another (or "Off/Flat" to disable) by navigating down to Settings>Music>EQ. This setting does not change when different genres of music play one after the other. Also the labels on these EQ settings are not mapped to any actual genre in the Music app (this EQ scheme has been around since early iPod days). What I would like to see are EQ settings that are automatically activated when particular tracks play that are tagged as Classical, Rock, Heavy Rock, Jazz, etc. For instance, I could pick the "Jazz" EQ as the default for classical, jazz or world music, but "Off" as the default for all other music genres. My other, equally imported, request is that EQ setting be promoted to the top level of the Music app so that I can quickly change EQ without having to navigate back to settings.
    Understood.
    07-27-2017 03:52 PM
  20. TgeekB's Avatar
    You misunderstand my request. What you're pointing at are manual PRESET EQ settings. You have to manually switch from one to another (or "Off/Flat" to disable) by navigating down to Settings>Music>EQ. This setting does not change when different genres of music play one after the other. Also the labels on these EQ settings are not mapped to any actual genre in the Music app (this EQ scheme has been around since early iPod days). What I would like to see are EQ settings that are automatically activated when particular tracks play that are tagged as Classical, Rock, Heavy Rock, Jazz, etc. For instance, I could pick the "Jazz" EQ as the default for classical, jazz or world music, but "Off" as the default for all other music genres. My other, equally imported, request is that EQ setting be promoted to the top level of the Music app so that I can quickly change EQ without having to navigate back to settings.
    Is this available on other OS's such as Android? It sounds interesting but I've never seen it before or may have overlooked it. If not it sounds like something you should speak to Apple about if you haven't already.
    07-27-2017 04:56 PM
  21. scruffypig's Avatar
    That's fine, however I was speaking on the way I use my device. I'm aware that pip is possible with the native video player (on the iPad)
    There are plenty of 3rd party apps that support Picture in Picture. It’s up to the app developer to support it. Though I have been using the PiPifier plugin which helps for those that don’t.
    07-27-2017 07:26 PM
  22. redbirdsfan's Avatar
    There are plenty of 3rd party apps that support Picture in Picture. It’s up to the app developer to support it. Though I have been using the PiPifier plugin which helps for those that don’t.
    Ill give it a try...
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    07-27-2017 07:35 PM
  23. scruffypig's Avatar
    You misunderstand my request. What you're pointing at are manual PRESET EQ settings. You have to manually switch from one to another (or "Off/Flat" to disable) by navigating down to Settings>Music>EQ. This setting does not change when different genres of music play one after the other. Also the labels on these EQ settings are not mapped to any actual genre in the Music app (this EQ scheme has been around since early iPod days). What I would like to see are EQ settings that are automatically activated when particular tracks play that are tagged as Classical, Rock, Heavy Rock, Jazz, etc. For instance, I could pick the "Jazz" EQ as the default for classical, jazz or world music, but "Off" as the default for all other music genres. My other, equally imported, request is that EQ setting be promoted to the top level of the Music app so that I can quickly change EQ without having to navigate back to settings.
    This would be a nice game changer in my opinion. I would use the Music app more.
    07-27-2017 08:14 PM
  24. SvenJ's Avatar
    Install iCloud on your windows computer if you don’t have already, then simply drag and drop the movie to your iCloud Drive and you have what you wished for.
    No, you have uploaded your content to the cloud over some data connection, possibly the Wifi in your house then your isp, then downloaded your content back from the cloud, likely over that same internet connection and Wifi. You got the job done, but transfer via USB cable is so more efficient, faster, and cheaper since you do pay for your bandwidth/data.
    07-29-2017 08:21 PM
  25. SvenJ's Avatar
    The keyboard. It has to be the worst of the various mobile OSs. Partly good news is that you can change it now, but it reverts back to stock whenever you are trying to put in a password which is exactly where it is dismal. Not a single special character or number without switching views. How long did it take them to realize you can show lower case? Swipping? Who would want that. It still boggles my mind how they overtook Blackberry, back when their keyboard was king.
    07-29-2017 08:32 PM
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