1. OZsMac's Avatar
    I see the points about changes to iMessage, but that is fine, they are trying to ensure younger customers don't leave the Apple Eccosystem, hence possibly walk away from iOS devices. This makes sense. Good thing is you don't have to use these features, and if by chance a "young" person sends you a message, that is their choice.

    Not sure what you were expecting from a platform that is now v10, however for me I think the new Notification Center is great, changes to notifications are in the right direction, the new lock screen changes are also excellent (fixing the camera access issues), news I might start using, Apple Music is now usable (was only using as I have a free subscription from my telco), major step forward with control centre, side by side in safari on ipad big tick, Siri changes are long overdue and will make me use it more, iMessages (not my fav changes, but understand why), photos app (might get me to use it), maps changes are dramatic (noticed this yesterday when using), HomeKit is something I now want to check out, anti-spam for inbound calls is good, voicemail transcription can't wait, the VoIP API to allow integration for Skype/FaceBook Messenger/etc, small changes in mail, ability to delete most stock apps, lock screen changes so I don't miss notifications with touchID getting so speedy, multi email compose on iPad, better iCloud Drive integration, continuity clipboard, international improvements for language support (type and Siri), markup in messages, better iPad Camera UI, live filters for photos, CarPlay improvements, rest and type for iPad keyboard, Apple Pay in browser, data detection and event finding in messages (like they had in mail) and a whole pile more.

    Actually quite a pile of things when you look at it.

    Not to mention some hidden things I'm sure that will enable the iPhone 7 when launched later in the year.
    Rob Phillips likes this.
    06-14-2016 11:14 PM
  2. Mohan Dandamudi's Avatar
    My biggest wish was the Apple Music getting High Quality Audio but clearly it's a miss for me.
    Rest of the things are welcome
    06-15-2016 02:13 AM
  3. zscoony's Avatar
    Some good new features and improvements but very disappointed yet again at Apple's total lack of iPad improvements. It certainly doesn't encourage devs to create for the iPad!
    06-15-2016 05:30 AM
  4. mumfoau's Avatar
    One go back... I'm sure I'm going to really find Raise to wake useful!
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    06-15-2016 05:58 AM
  5. afctee's Avatar
    I'm VERY thankful for the option to remove\delete the default apps that I'll NEVER use. Give me my 'space\storage' back
    It would be interesting if after deleting said default apps, if there is an update to the OS, does it reinstall those items...!

    Yep, interesting question(s) ahead...
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    06-15-2016 08:01 AM
  6. mumfoau's Avatar
    I'm VERY thankful for the option to remove\delete the default apps that I'll NEVER use. Give me my 'space\storage' back
    It would be interesting if after deleting said default apps, if there is an update to the OS, does it reinstall those items...!

    Yep, interesting question(s) ahead...
    I'd be interested in knowing if one could have other apps become default if stocked apps were "deleted"
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    06-15-2016 08:03 AM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I'm VERY thankful for the option to remove\delete the default apps that I'll NEVER use. Give me my 'space\storage' back
    It would be interesting if after deleting said default apps, if there is an update to the OS, does it reinstall those items...!

    Yep, interesting question(s) ahead...
    You may find the iMore Blog article viewed by selecting the below link to be quite interesting...

    http://www.imore.com/how-deleting-ap...orks-in-ios-10
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    06-15-2016 08:22 AM
  8. robertk328's Avatar
    You may find the iMore Blog article viewed by selecting the below link to be quite interesting...

    http://www.imore.com/how-deleting-ap...orks-in-ios-10
    Explains it perfectly so it makes total sense. An "integrated" app makes me nervous to remove it completely. Seems they developed it in a way that gives people what they want (de-clutter) without sacrificing the integrity of the OS.
    Rob Phillips and libra89 like this.
    06-15-2016 08:29 AM
  9. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    You may find the iMore Blog article viewed by selecting the below link to be quite interesting...

    http://www.imore.com/how-deleting-ap...orks-in-ios-10
    Interesting, although it doesn't answer the first question that comes to my mind: What if I need to do something that needs an app that I've uninstalled? For instance, what if I removed Mail and then needed to send an email? How does that work? From what I've read there really isn't a clear answer. The common sense thing would be for iOS to allow users to set another default app, but we know what Apple thinks about that!
    mumfoau likes this.
    06-15-2016 08:37 AM
  10. afctee's Avatar
    One more thing I'd like to add, as others have mentioned. I'm not too fond of the 'enhancements' to iMessage. Honestly, fancy icons to use and the likes. Not for me, and if people start sending me those, I might have to block them - LMAO!
    06-15-2016 08:43 AM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Interesting, although it doesn't answer the first question that comes to my mind: What if I need to do something that needs an app that I've uninstalled? For instance, what if I removed Mail and then needed to send an email? How does that work? From what I've read there really isn't a clear answer.
    Reinstall the app via the App Store.
    The common sense thing would be for iOS to allow users to set another default app, but we know what Apple thinks about that!
    I think it would work in the same sense as the 3rd party keyboards. Some things will remain native to iOS. Still, for the most part, the apps that people will be removing from view will be apps that they flat out will not ever use. Think about it. Those who currently use 3rd-party counterparts have been quite happy with their arrangement and the native apps have been placed into a folder and basically forgotten. The only difference now is the fact that they can remove those apps from view.
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    06-15-2016 08:43 AM
  12. jhails's Avatar
    Despite the faster watch OS, I'm still not buying one until it does something useful. iMessages updates are ok if your into that stuff. I suspect the catch up to Android novelty factor will quickly fade.

    Sharing across devices might be useful if it works. File system updates might prove to be the most useful change of everything I saw.

    Enjoyed Bosma's presentation!!
    06-15-2016 08:44 AM
  13. JPrime44's Avatar
    Not sure why people don't like forward progress with iMessage. Keeping things the same and letting them get stale is a recipe for disaster and will have people jumping ship. I am excited for the changes!
    ladyc0524 and Rob Phillips like this.
    06-15-2016 08:47 AM
  14. afctee's Avatar
    Based on the info below, it doesn't sound like I'm getting my storage space back. So, what's the point of 'deleting', or should I say, hidding the app?

    "To re-download a built-in app, you go to the App Store and search for it like any other app. The difference is though, if you tap the get button to re-download it, it doesn't actually have to download any data. It just switches the app back on."
    06-15-2016 08:47 AM
  15. mumfoau's Avatar
    I think it would work in the same sense as the 3rd party keyboards. Some things will remain native to iOS. Still, for the most part, the apps that people will be removing from view will be apps that they flat out will not ever use. Think about it. Those who currently use 3rd-party counterparts have been quite happy with their arrangement and the native apps have been placed into a folder and basically forgotten. The only difference now is the fact that they can remove those apps from view.
    Makes sense.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    06-15-2016 08:56 AM
  16. eseerc's Avatar
    Despite the faster watch OS, I'm still not buying one until it does something useful.
    Agreed. For me, that is cellular connectivity to function independently of an iPhone.
    06-15-2016 09:29 AM
  17. RobDevereax's Avatar
    I feel that Apple should've spent more time on their key board options. I wish they would've given us the option of a dark keyboard for typing, and the ability to swipe the words rather than type. The ability to use one-handed mode, and a built in thumbs only keyboard would've made the experience that much more amazing!! The lock screen as well should've had the ability to create a locking pattern, along with the weather, and steps taken as you walk on the lock screen for health conscious people. In addition, the ability to write your name on the slide to unlock button would've been neat. Finally, a guest screen to allow people to use your phone and not look at your private information should have been created by now. I could go on and on, but it's just a matter of time.
    ladyc0524 likes this.
    06-15-2016 10:45 AM
  18. Nocticis's Avatar
    Raise to wake and changes to the notifications is awesome, though I wish spotlight did more, like read my email and show me upcoming bills, like Google Now does but keeping that info on the phone.
    I like the photo additions, but not big into pictures, so yeah.
    Apps being open to developers is great though I'm sure limited. For example if I say "Hey Siri, play Top of the line by Rittz, it'll open Apple Music." (Of course) but I don't think you saying "Hey Siri, play Top of the line by Rittz on Spotify," would work like it does on Android phones. Likewise, I don't think you can get directions to a place using Google Maps using Siri either.
    iMessage stuff... Meh. Just more bloat. Wouldn't surprised if if by iOS 12, that a lot of that stuff is silently removed. Honestly they should have just kept iMessage as it was and expanded it to Android. Done.
    Wished dark mode came to iOS
    Would like Apple to give attention to other apps like GameCenter podcast and calendar
    Don't like the new news icon. I use that app every day and accounts for 19% of my battery life usage almost every week.
    06-15-2016 11:21 AM
  19. ron.roberts2's Avatar
    I was underwhelmed. I wish Apple would let go and let the user customize the device. That is one area that I feel Android kills iOS at. Apple feels that they know how a user wants or should use a device. Let me make the device how I want it. I would love to see Widgets on the Home screen. If you take out the iMessage update, wow did they blow a big opportunity to make iOS 10 something big. I feel each update keeps getting less impressive. They are making me really consider jumping ship to Android. At least Google is doing some pretty big things. I have always been an Apple fan but man is it tough to stay loyal when the innovation is just not happening.
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    06-15-2016 11:36 AM
  20. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Reinstall the app via the App Store.
    I think it would work in the same sense as the 3rd party keyboards. Some things will remain native to iOS. Still, for the most part, the apps that people will be removing from view will be apps that they flat out will not ever use. Think about it. Those who currently use 3rd-party counterparts have been quite happy with their arrangement and the native apps have been placed into a folder and basically forgotten. The only difference now is the fact that they can remove those apps from view.
    Makes sense. Still, I'd like the ability to use Google's own Gmail app and have it open when I click an email link rather than the stock app.

    Not necessarily a game changer for me, but it would be nice nonetheless.
    mumfoau likes this.
    06-15-2016 12:54 PM
  21. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Not sure why people don't like forward progress with iMessage. Keeping things the same and letting them get stale is a recipe for disaster and will have people jumping ship. I am excited for the changes!
    True story. If the changes aren't in the way who really cares whether or not they're present in the app?
    06-15-2016 12:55 PM
  22. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Not sure why people don't like forward progress with iMessage. Keeping things the same and letting them get stale is a recipe for disaster and will have people jumping ship. I am excited for the changes!
    It's not really forward progress. It's just playing catch-up to other platforms who use these annoying "features." The screenshots of the new iMessage are already activating my claustrophobic senses.

    "Keeping things the same" is what you assume some of us want. I'm all for enhancing it in ways. Sending money to someone, for example. But it's the other things that are out of my control that I don't like, unless I just completely turn off iMessage which isn't something I want to do because I use it every day to sync between my devices.
    afctee and libra89 like this.
    06-15-2016 01:13 PM
  23. afctee's Avatar
    "...activating my claustrophobic senses" - LMAO! I totally get this.

    It's not really forward progress. It's just playing catch-up to other platforms who use these annoying "features." The screenshots of the new iMessage are already activating my claustrophobic senses.

    "Keeping things the same" is what you assume some of us want. I'm all for enhancing it in ways. Sending money to someone, for example. But it's the other things that are out of my control that I don't like, unless I just completely turn off iMessage which isn't something I want to do because I use it every day to sync between my devices.
    06-15-2016 01:34 PM
  24. afctee's Avatar
    Yeah, I couldn't careless about this...

    What are your thoughts on Apple's iOS 10 announcement?-2016-06-15_1335.png
    06-15-2016 01:36 PM
  25. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Rest in peace, spelling, grammar and punctuation. People will do nothing but write out emojis as their language and we're all going to the hot place.
    06-15-2016 01:42 PM
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