1. JustinHorn's Avatar
    Found a last min flight for cheap to Denver and decided to go to Vail to go skiing for the first time. Not that I really need a snow app, just though it would be cool to try out now and during my trip.

    What's the app that is on the commercial?

    Any other good ones?
    04-05-2009 03:26 PM
  2. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    When are you coming? We just got a lot of snow, so the slopes should be nice. I can't believe you're going to Vail for your first time skiing, lol. There's a lot of other resorts that are much cheaper and closer and would fit your skill level

    I don't really know of any snow apps... lol, sorry.
    04-05-2009 03:47 PM
  3. SurfStoked's Avatar
    Colorado Snow Report and The North Face Snow Report are pretty cool, but iTrailMap is the one on the commercial I'm pretty sure you are referring to. There's a 3D version for $4.99 and a regular version for free.
    04-05-2009 03:51 PM
  4. Jeremy's Avatar
    I went to Vail the past two years snowboarding. Very nice. Be prepared to spend a lot of $$$.
    04-05-2009 03:58 PM
  5. JustinHorn's Avatar
    I can't believe you're going to Vail for your first time skiing, lol. There's a lot of other resorts that are much cheaper and closer and would fit your skill level
    Well I went to Vail for the first time in October last year for a wedding. I really loved it there and wanted to go back to play in the snow. This was the same trip I visited the Denver Cherry Creek Apple store.

    This trip started by finding a American flight from Miami to Denver for $199 (total with tax). Then got a great deal on the hotel. They were booked for one of the days we needed because of a convention so they gave us one of their one bedroom condos for the whole stay (kitchen, washer/dryer, fireplace, parking spot) and at the same, already discounted, room rate of like $180 or something a night! There is a lot of deals becuase of it being the last week of the season. Also, they have some free concerts...Chris Isaak anyone?

    I'm flying out on the 15th. I know the mountains just got a ton of snow last night, and I think more is expected before I get there so this should be a great end of season trip. The only thing now is trying to find clothes to wear. I have jackets and stuff, just need to find some pants. There are a lot of deals for end of season at places in Miami, but also slim pickings.

    Colorado Snow Report and The North Face Snow Report are pretty cool, but iTrailMap is the one on the commercial I'm pretty sure you are referring to. There's a 3D version for $4.99 and a regular version for free.
    Thanks, I'll check those out.
    04-05-2009 04:00 PM
  6. SurfStoked's Avatar
    I went to Vail the past two years snowboarding. Very nice. Be prepared to spend a lot of $$$.
    I went this past Christmas. My friend goes to school up there and his brother and his friends have passes to Vail and Breck. We boarded for 4 days straight and only paid for parking : )
    04-05-2009 04:02 PM
  7. JustinHorn's Avatar
    I went to Vail the past two years snowboarding. Very nice. Be prepared to spend a lot of $$$.
    I will only have 4 days there, you think I should try to do both ski and board or just pick one? I am actually more interested in boarding, but figured I've never been snow skiing and should give it a try.

    Living in Miami I have a decent amount of hours water skiing, but I understand it's two completely different things.

    So what would you recommend? Ski, Board, Both?
    Last edited by Justin; 04-05-2009 at 04:24 PM.
    04-05-2009 04:08 PM
  8. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    Just snowboard! It's much cooler Haha, I don't know. I've never been skiing (on water or snow) and only been snowboarding twice. But I wakeboard and used to skateboard, so the idea of skis just freaks me out.

    Sounds like you got a great deal! Have fun!
    04-05-2009 04:21 PM
  9. JustinHorn's Avatar
    I've never been skiing (on water or snow) and only been snowboarding twice. But I wakeboard and used to skateboard, so the idea of skis just freaks me out.
    Using this logic I'm thinking I should go with skiing as it should be at least a bit more familiar feeling.
    04-05-2009 05:04 PM
  10. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    Using this logic I'm thinking I should go with skiing as it should be at least a bit more familiar feeling.
    Haha. Probably a good idea But then you're not as cool.
    04-05-2009 05:47 PM
  11. Nellybelly333's Avatar
    Using this logic I'm thinking I should go with skiing as it should be at least a bit more familiar feeling.
    If you are going to try snowboarding, please please please wear wrist guards. I used to teach snowboarding at Okemo mountain, and I saw way to many broken wrists...

    If you can afford it, I would take a lesson!
    04-06-2009 12:21 PM
  12. JustinHorn's Avatar
    If you are going to try snowboarding, please please please wear wrist guards. I used to teach snowboarding at Okemo mountain, and I saw way to many broken wrists...
    I just read that about the wrist on a few websites I found on google. I guess those won't be included with the rental and I would have to buy them separate.

    If you can afford it, I would take a lesson!
    Yeah, the regular group lessons were pretty expensive, but they have a first timers package which is actually really decent. Vail:

    For $340 you get:
    Full-day lesson + beginner lift + ski or board rental
    Meeting Times: 9:45 a.m. - 3:30 p.m.
    For 3 days

    So I think I'm just going to go with that. The only downside to this package is you don't get a real lift ticket, but as long as you are with the class they will take you to other lifts, just if you are on your own it's only good for a small base of the mountain lift.

    Right now I'm leaning towards just going this $340 route and if I really love it and am not in a lot of pain for more exercise than I've had in years or from several face-meet-snow falls...I'll just buy a one day real pass on the last day.

    I'm still debating on whether to just go with skiing or trying both? I'm thinking it might be good to try both and not get decent at either, but get a feel for what I like more and then next season just go with that one.

    So many things to figure out, so little time!!! I haven't even found ski pants yet! There is slim pickings left, although I'm not that surprised since it's the end of the season and the I live in Miami.

    Oh, another question, goggles vs sunglasses? My friend that snowboards said for spring skiing the goggles will really fog up and aren't really needed and sunglasses will work better.

    Any other tips you can give a first timer?
    04-06-2009 12:52 PM
  13. Jeremy's Avatar
    Don't try both... it will just confuse you. Honestly skiing is easier to pick up for a beginner. In my opinion.

    And I'm a goggle guy...
    04-06-2009 01:17 PM
  14. JustinHorn's Avatar
    Don't try both... it will just confuse you. Honestly skiing is easier to pick up for a beginner. In my opinion.
    Thanks for the decisive answer, think I'll go with skiing.

    With the lesson package I described above it's 3 days of ski or 3 days of board, not both. I was already leaning slightly towards skiing just b/c I have never wake boarded before, but have water skied (even though I understand it's 2 diff. things). Plus, the g/f wants to do skiing...so
    04-06-2009 01:23 PM
  15. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    Plus, the g/f wants to do skiing...so
    Well that changes everything!! Of course you have to ski then!

    I went snowboarding a couple weeks ago and it was sunny out. My goggles did not fog up. I've known people who's sunglasses broke when they fell. So you might just wanna stick with goggles.
    04-06-2009 01:43 PM
  16. Nellybelly333's Avatar
    Go with goggles.

    Also, don't be to upset about not having an actual ski pass because like you said, you will still get on the lifts. If it is your first time then the bunny slopes are going to be more than exciting enough for you... Trust me!

    Have you thought about getting/renting a helmet? Might be a good idea.
    04-06-2009 02:44 PM
  17. JustinHorn's Avatar
    Go with goggles.

    Also, don't be to upset about not having an actual ski pass because like you said, you will still get on the lifts. If it is your first time then the bunny slopes are going to be more than exciting enough for you... Trust me!

    Have you thought about getting/renting a helmet? Might be a good idea.
    Yeah, the bunny slope looks very "bunny" on the map, but might be different in person. Plus that's only if I go on my own, but with the instructor we will go all the way to the top.

    Haven't thought about a helmet, but hopefully since I'm doing the lesson package they will help me get what I need. Wish I knew what I was doing before jumping in, but I guess you got to start somewhere.
    04-06-2009 03:04 PM
  18. Nellybelly333's Avatar
    Yeah, the bunny slope looks very "bunny" on the map, but might be different in person. Plus that's only if I go on my own, but with the instructor we will go all the way to the top.

    Haven't thought about a helmet, but hopefully since I'm doing the lesson package they will help me get what I need. Wish I knew what I was doing before jumping in, but I guess you got to start somewhere.
    You will have a blast! Have you been working out?! You should do some running and some leg work outs before you go. You are gonna have sore muscles in places you did not even knew existed!
    04-06-2009 04:25 PM
  19. JustinHorn's Avatar
    You will have a blast! Have you been working out?! You should do some running and some leg work outs before you go. You are gonna have sore muscles in places you did not even knew existed!
    Funny thing is I noticed I was starting to put on some weight and have been eating healthier the last 3 weeks, started jogging again, and doing some bench press and back exercises. I did all of this before I knew that I would get this great deal to go to Vail.

    I've only run 4 days so far (1/2 mile each day), but the last day felt good. I wasn't super tired after and could have done more probably, but didn't want to push it since it's so ******* hot down here in Miami. It got up to 91 today with a feels like of 95.

    So yeah, I will be using the next 10 days to train hard. Hopefully training in the heat down here will balance out the less O2 up in the mountains.

    I'm going out in a bit to look for some goggles now since being a beginner I have an even greater chance of busting them and my eyeballs!

    Thanks again for all the advice from everyone...we got a great community of people here, even without the iPhone bond. I'll be watching this thread so if you have any other tips, please don't hold back!
    04-06-2009 04:57 PM
  20. Jeremy's Avatar
    Funny thing is I noticed I was starting to put on some weight and have been eating healthier the last 3 weeks, started jogging again, and doing some bench press and back exercises. I did all of this before I knew that I would get this great deal to go to Vail.

    I've only run 4 days so far (1/2 mile each day), but the last day felt good. I wasn't super tired after and could have done more probably, but didn't want to push it since it's so ******* hot down here in Miami. It got up to 91 today with a feels like of 95.

    So yeah, I will be using the next 10 days to train hard. Hopefully training in the heat down here will balance out the less O2 up in the mountains.

    I'm going out in a bit to look for some goggles now since being a beginner I have an even greater chance of busting them and my eyeballs!

    Thanks again for all the advice from everyone...we got a great community of people here, even without the iPhone bond. I'll be watching this thread so if you have any other tips, please don't hold back!
    All I can tell you is don't be cheap when it comes to gear. Especially pants and gloves or mittens. I prefer mittens as they provide me with a less of a chance of jamming a finger. But I snowboard so if you are going to ski go with gloves. You want to be prepared when you are out there.

    And in Vail find the local grocery store and buy Gatorade there... unless you want to pay $6 for a small Gatorade while you are on the mountain.
    04-06-2009 05:04 PM
  21. Nellybelly333's Avatar
    All I can tell you is don't be cheap when it comes to gear. Especially pants and gloves or mittens. I prefer mittens as they provide me with a less of a chance of jamming a finger. But I snowboard so if you are going to ski go with gloves. You want to be prepared when you are out there.

    And in Vail find the local grocery store and buy Gatorade there... unless you want to pay $6 for a small Gatorade while you are on the mountain.
    Great point Ash...

    BRING YOUR OWN FOOD TO THE MOUNTAIN!

    It is highway robbery there. Everything is priced about 300% above normal.
    04-06-2009 07:16 PM
  22. dooks88's Avatar
    OK, long post here...

    I feel that I can give a ton of insight. I was in your shoes 3 years ago... and I'm a Florida boy too.

    I have gone to Beaver Creek CO (just out side of vail) for 3 years now. First year, I decided to ski. It was my first time ever being on snow or a mountain. I took a half day lesson which included a full day lift pass, lesson, and lunch. Think I paid around $150. I took my half day lesson and it went very well. After lunch I did a few more greens, then ended the day with a blue. I took my fair share of falls, but I it wasn't beat up too bad. I did blues for the next 3 days.

    Second year I wanted to try snowboarding. Took a one day lesson. Didn't really "get it" till day 3. After 7 days strait on the mountain, I was doing blues. My body was beat to hell. I mean every inch of me was throbbing.

    This year I bit the bullet and purchased my own snowboarding gear. It was a great choice for me since we go every year. I spent 4 days on the mountain this year, and did only blues. Hopefully next year I will be doing blacks.

    Tips I learned:
    - Buy your pants, jacket, etc from a place like Burlington coat factory. I got all Columbia brand gear for very cheap.
    - Waterproof (or as best as possible) gloves
    - Goggles. I bought a nice pair of Oakleys. I think its worth it to spend the money here.
    - I use a helmet. I am not in complete control of myself on the mountain, and don't feel like going Sonny Bono on a tree.
    - Bad Ash is right, food and drinks on the mountain are highway robbery. I paid $9 for a 16 oz bottle of Gatorade on top of the mountain.
    - Skiing is WAY easier to learn. Also WAY easier on your body.
    - Snowboarding, though harder to learn, is much more fun.
    - Last thing... if you snowboard, use wrist guards while you are learning or you could end up like my girlfriend...

    04-06-2009 08:14 PM
  23. JustinHorn's Avatar
    Dooks, thanks for the long post, great tips.

    - Buy your pants, jacket, etc from a place like Burlington coat factory. I got all Columbia brand gear for very cheap.
    Didn't even think of checking there. Just picked up a pair of Obermeyer pants for 40% off MSRP which came out to about $135, but hopefully will last me for years to come. I have a decent jacket already that should work fine.

    - Waterproof (or as best as possible) gloves
    I have a good pair of Spyder gloves. I bought them just for wearing in NYC, but they are ski gloves so should be good.

    - Goggles. I bought a nice pair of Oakleys. I think its worth it to spend the money here.
    I've had a couple people tell me if it isn't snowing then sunglasses would work, but as I will be eating a lot of snow when I fall (hopefully not too much) think I'm better off with goggles.

    I found a pair of Spy Zed goggles for $90 that looked nice and came with 2 lenses, but a bit more than I wanted to spend. I also saw some Oakleys for only $50, but they didn't fit quite right. Think I'm going to see if I can borrow a pair from a friend, but if not I might just have to suck it up and spend the money on the Zed pair that fit nicely.

    - I use a helmet. I am not in complete control of myself on the mountain, and don't feel like going Sonny Bono on a tree.
    I think I'll probably rent one and pick one up for the second year.

    - Bad Ash is right, food and drinks on the mountain are highway robbery. I paid $9 for a 16 oz bottle of Gatorade on top of the mountain.
    Ok, everyone has mentioned this and I know I might sound dumb, but where do you keep all these drinks and food on you while you are skiing?

    - Skiing is WAY easier to learn. Also WAY easier on your body.
    - Snowboarding, though harder to learn, is much more fun.
    Yeah, going to just stick with the 3 day lesson for skiing and then maybe try snowboarding next seasons. Also, going to make sure I'm in better shape before next season so I'm up for boarding.

    - Last thing... if you snowboard, use wrist guards while you are learning or you could end up like my girlfriend...
    I love that bear, I want one! Hope your girlfriend healed up ok and wasn't scared to give it another try
    04-06-2009 10:13 PM
  24. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    Ok, everyone has mentioned this and I know I might sound dumb, but where do you keep all these drinks and food on you while you are skiing?
    You can rent lockers. Or you could even get a cheap little cooler and keep that in your car. I don't know how much lockers are at Vail, but I know when we went to Loveland, they were pretty reasonable. You're gonna wanna rent a locker anyway to keep your shoes in.
    04-06-2009 10:20 PM
  25. rknowlt's Avatar
    On the sunglasses vs. goggles decision it all depends on the day. I am a big time snowboarder so I own a few pairs of high end goggles as well a nice pair of Oakley Frogskins for the spring days. Two weekends ago I was in the froggies, yesterday I wore a pair of goggles, it all depends on the day. Either way quality is pretty important, cheap goggles will fog, and cheap sunglasses are gonna leave you squinting.

    I agree with badash on the mittens being a good decision for avoiding jammed fingers, but I don't think you are going to want to wear mittens this time of year, unless you like having extremely sweaty hands.

    Helmets are always a good idea. I am always in complete control when I ride, but a fall from a 50 foot jump can always go badly, and you can never control the other people on the mountain. I'm fairly certain I have a concussion from yesterday and I was wearing a helmet, I can only imagine how bad things might have been without one.

    I have never been to Vail but when I ride at home at mountains in NY, or even in Salt Lake City I always leave my backpack in the lodge tucked into a corner somewhere. It's never been an issue, but I do know it's a risky practice. I keep spare gloves, layering options, and lunch in my bag.

    I am very jealous of you. All of my local mountains are closed after this past weekend. Looking forward to Thursday to hike the park with some friends, and then waiting for next year after that. Although I did book my flights for next winters Salt Lake trip today!
    04-06-2009 10:53 PM
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