1. iMore.com's Avatar
    The iPhone SE was a cult hit and has been missed since its demise. New rumors have a replacement arriving next year, but it won't be the mini powerhouse we'd been hoping for. Instead, it's going to look just like an iPhone 8.

    Full story from the iMore Blog...
    09-04-2019 07:30 AM
  2. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Is this how Apple gets rid of the older components like casings and screens over time?
    09-04-2019 08:37 AM
  3. Golurk's Avatar
    Is this how Apple gets rid of the older components like casings and screens over time?
    iPhone 8 x A12/A13 processor = 2020 iPhone SE

    Given that the cost will probably be around $500 (maybe more), that’s not exactly what we were hoping for. The iPhone 8’s design is ridiculously dated compared to the other mid-range phones out there.

    If they keep everything the same apart from the processor, the only thing the iPhone 8 will have better than its rivals is performance (and the successor to the Pocophone F1 will probably be more or less just as fast) and wireless charging. I can already see the iPhone SE’s successor’s rivals having better designs, displays, batteries and cameras.
    09-07-2019 11:46 AM
  4. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    iPhone 8 x A12/A13 processor = 2020 iPhone SE

    Given that the cost will probably be around $500 (maybe more), that’s not exactly what we were hoping for. The iPhone 8’s design is ridiculously dated compared to the other mid-range phones out there.

    If they keep everything the same apart from the processor, the only thing the iPhone 8 will have better than its rivals is performance (and the successor to the Pocophone F1 will probably be more or less just as fast) and wireless charging. I can already see the iPhone SE’s successor’s rivals having better designs, displays, batteries and cameras.
    So then you have the R, Standard and Max to cater to you
    09-07-2019 09:28 PM
  5. Golurk's Avatar
    So then you have the R, Standard and Max to cater to you
    It’s not that I’m saying the potential future SE will suck. What I’m saying is that it’s going to have a tough time competing against more feature-packed rivals at the same price.

    That said, it will probably still be successful as iPhone buyers who want a smaller/cheaper phone will buy one.
    09-08-2019 05:15 AM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    That said, it will probably still be successful as iPhone buyers who want a smaller/cheaper phone will buy one.
    I think this is the key point.
    If this is true they are not necessarily looking to take on the competition but to keep or retrieve those IPhone supporters who want this type of device.
    09-08-2019 08:49 AM
  7. Golurk's Avatar
    I think this is the key point.
    If this is true they are not necessarily looking to take on the competition but to keep or retrieve those IPhone supporters who want this type of device.
    Do you think it might eat into iPhone 12/12R sales? Bit of a dilemma for Apple.
    09-08-2019 09:01 AM
  8. TgeekB's Avatar
    Do you think it might eat into iPhone 12/12R sales? Bit of a dilemma for Apple.
    I don’t think so.
    People are keeping their phones longer. Those that want the latest and greatest will go for a 12. For those not wanting to spend that much money the SE upgrade may be their ticket to a new phone and actually increase sales overall.
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    09-08-2019 09:04 AM
  9. Golurk's Avatar
    I don’t think so.
    People are keeping their phones longer. Those that want the latest and greatest will go for a 12. For those not wanting to spend that much money the SE upgrade may be their ticket to a new phone and actually increase sales overall.
    Fair point...will be interesting to see how it goes. But for now, we have the iPhone 11 and iOS 13/iPad OS launches to look forward to
    09-08-2019 09:16 AM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    Fair point...will be interesting to see how it goes. But for now, we have the iPhone 11 and iOS 13/iPad OS launches to look forward to
    True.
    I will watch from the sidelines as my XR is meeting my needs.
    09-08-2019 09:31 AM
  11. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Do you think it might eat into iPhone 12/12R sales? Bit of a dilemma for Apple.
    This is part of building a wall around iOS customer base. As people start holding phones longer, iOS becomes far more competitive with some mid tier offerings. Rule #1 is never compete on price or you’ll race to bottom. There’s no real money is Android hardware if you’re not either #1 or #2 consistently year afte year. This SE is more about finding profits through already paid for basic non technical components and capturing some existing 6, 7, 8 users that don’t want to buy all new accessories too. Such customers are value driven and resist change...
    Annie_8plus and scruffypig like this.
    09-08-2019 12:40 PM
  12. scruffypig's Avatar
    An iPhone 6 or 7 with an updated processor and internals would make much better logic than an iPhone 8. The iPhone 8 had the glass back and wireless charging, which would only add to the production cost. If Apple is looking to make a phone for the late-adapter, non-adapter iPhone market, I believe an updated 6 or 7 would be the model.
    09-08-2019 08:25 PM
  13. Golurk's Avatar
    An iPhone 6 or 7 with an updated processor and internals would make much better logic than an iPhone 8. The iPhone 8 had the glass back and wireless charging, which would only add to the production cost. If Apple is looking to make a phone for the late-adapter, non-adapter iPhone market, I believe an updated 6 or 7 would be the model.
    I agree. Wireless charging isn’t exactly a key feature I’d expect or want as someone who is looking to buy a mid-range phone. A good display, battery, performance and camera would be at the top of the list.

    If I were Apple I would scrap the glass back/wireless charging and increase the battery capacity instead.

    If it’s going to be an iPhone 8 with an updated processor then good performance and a decent camera (not great but still solid enough for mid-range) is already a given. I’m hoping to also see IP67/8 and a sub $500 price tag.

    Apple won’t be making as much profit per device as they are with their flagships but since this is a mid-range phone in a highly competitive/crowded price segment they have to keep the price low enough.
    09-10-2019 01:06 PM
  14. scruffypig's Avatar
    If it’s going to be an iPhone 8 with an updated processor then good performance and a decent camera (not great but still solid enough for mid-range) is already a given. I’m hoping to also see IP67/8 and a sub $500 price tag.
    The iPhone 8 processor already is an Apple A11 Bionic chip at 2.4 GHz (same processor as the iPhone X (The new 2019 iPad features an Apple A10 processor).

    The iPhone 8 single camera is the same 12 MP as the iPhone X.

    The iPhone 8 already is IP67 rated under IEC standard 60529 for water resistance.

    The iPhone 8 currently sells under $500 directly from Apple.
    09-15-2019 03:00 PM

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