Should I Create a separate apple id?

[rstark18]

iCloud backups take place when your phone/tablet is locked and charging. You can also start it yourself, but the process is so battery draining that, so far, it has only worked while plugged in (and Apple suggests you do it while charging and leaving the device alone for a bit). Most successful backups happen when I didn't even intend to back it up. Once that's done, yes, iTunes backups will become unnecessary.

To add to this... to "schedule" what time you want your daily backup to happen just do a manual backup at that time. Going forward all your daily backup will automatically happen at that time.

 

[diamonddialogue]

Correct! And again, I'm sure rstark and anyone else with iCloud experience would be happy to answer any questions you folks may have.

 

[jeffvanluijk]

You can chck what you want to sync from icloud in settings

 

[Pmt061204]

I have been wondering about all this syncing lately between all the devices. This has really helped clear it up alot. Keep up the great discussions.

 

[davjaxn]

Don't forget with Home Sharing in iTunes you can easily (albeit manually) share music, apps and videos with each other via iTunes on your computers- if you indeed have separate computers. My wife and I have different iTunes accounts and do that all the time.

 

[phreddyl]

You would have to have the same iCloud account set up on each device. Separate ID's would be an easy way to have 20GB of iCloud space for one person, so I imagine it would NOT sync all your data as iCloud is meant to. That's my hypothesis after 5 months of using it on my iPad 2 and iPhone 4.

Cheers.

Ok so I am sorry. Getting more confused. When u say "you would have to have same icloud account" you don't mean you have to does it? I have iPad n iPhone and my son has iPod touch all under my account. I share some apps I choose (he is 9) I
Don't want everything shared. Can he have separate icloud account for his touch?

 

[Igor]

I think they have some kind of family plan

 

[Pmt061204]

Ok so I am sorry. Getting more confused. When u say "you would have to have same icloud account" you don't mean you have to does it? I have iPad n iPhone and my son has iPod touch all under my account. I share some apps I choose (he is 9) I
Don't want everything shared. Can he have separate icloud account for his touch?

I thought I saw someone else state that each device will need its own @me.com account and that you will be able to choose what you want synced to that device. I could be wrong but like everybody else is saying once the official release comes out I'm sure it will become much more clear.

 

[rstark18]

Look at it this way. iCloud offers both backup and syncing. If you are logged into the same account from two different devices (two different iPhones) both will have a separate and different backup. The syncing part is what will be the same on both devices. You have the OPTION to choose which of the following you want to sync:
Mail
Contacts
Calendars
Reminders
Bookmarks
Notes
Photostream
Documents & Data
Find My iPhone
What I'm not sure about (because I'm only running one iOS5) is if each device gets 5gb for backing up or each account gets that. I assume it's 5gb per account and if that's the case then two iPhone won't fit in that 5gb range for most people. I run a pretty minimalist system and my backup runs around 3.1gb. I will most likely have to be additional storage to keep my wife and I on the same account for music, books and apps. I think apple was pretty smart from a $ perspective on this. They know a lot (if not most) families share an account and that 5gb is just enough for one device and additional space isn't too expensive.
Hope this clears it up a little.

 

[diamonddialogue]

Each account gets 5GB, NOT each device. But, I do believe anyone who really utilizes iCloud with more than one iOS device will need approximately 5GB per device. In other words, Apple made sure if you have just one device that your backups will fit into the 5GB you get for free. If you have two (iPhone and iPad for example), I think their goal was to almost force us to purchase at least 10GB.

Yes, your son can have a separate iCloud account for his iPod touch, and you can still link your iTunes account with it, I believe.

 

[phreddyl]

Look at it this way. iCloud offers both backup and syncing. If you are logged into the same account from two different devices (two different iPhones) both will have a separate and different backup. The syncing part is what will be the same on both devices. You have the OPTION to choose which of the following you want to sync:
Mail
Contacts
Calendars
Reminders
Bookmarks
Notes
Photostream
Documents & Data
Find My iPhone
What I'm not sure about (because I'm only running one iOS5) is if each device gets 5gb for backing up or each account gets that. I assume it's 5gb per account and if that's the case then two iPhone won't fit in that 5gb range for most people. I run a pretty minimalist system and my backup runs around 3.1gb. I will most likely have to be additional storage to keep my wife and I on the same account for music, books and apps. I think apple was pretty smart from a $ perspective on this. They know a lot (if not most) families share an account and that 5gb is just enough for one device and additional space isn't too expensive.
Hope this clears it up a little.

Yes I think it does thanks- very hard when you don't have it yet- I use google anyway and that already syncs my calendar and contacts between iPad and iPhone-

 

[rstark18]

Yes, your son can have a separate iCloud account for his iPod touch, and you can still link your iTunes account with it, I believe.

I too am not sure about this but I really doubt it.Looking at it closely ( Settings>iCloud>Account>iCloud Account Information) it looks as though your iCloud account is directly tied to your Apple ID and does not allow additional accounts to be set up. I really think they are going to push additional storage.

Although knowing a lot of their customers have multiple devices and that 5gb definitely won't be enough to keep everything synced, they might allow 5gb per device. If not they are going to have a lot of unhappy consumers

 

[phreddyl]

I too am not sure about this but I really doubt it.Looking at it closely ( Settings>iCloud>Account>iCloud Account Information) it looks as though your iCloud account is directly tied to your Apple ID and does not allow additional accounts to be set up. I really think they are going to push additional storage.

Although knowing a lot of their customers have multiple devices and that 5gb definitely won't be enough to keep everything synced, they might allow 5gb per device. If not they are going to have a lot of unhappy consumers

To be honest for what he has on it he doesn't need to be on icloud at all and can manually back up to iTunes. Can u sync some with icloud and just have it not turned on for his?

 

[rstark18]

To be honest for what he has on it he doesn't need to be on icloud at all and can manually back up to iTunes. Can u sync some with icloud and just have it not turned on for his?

Yes that works. You don't need to use iCloud on all devices.

 

[jglev]

Apple really needs to fix this. What we all need is a master Apple ID with multiple and separate @me.com/iCloud accounts. So the question is: can one Apple ID have multiple @me.com accounts? I don't think it can. I think the way around this is to create a new me.com Apple ID' for each person (or each device if you want separate iCloud storage). Use this new Apple ID @me.com account as your iCloud account. Then under the Store in Settings, change it to the Apple ID that everyone uses for iTunes purchases. This way everyone can still share purchases and everyone will have their own separate iCloud account. Do you think that will work?

 

[cardfan]

Apple really needs to fix this. What we all need is a master Apple ID with multiple and separate @me.com/iCloud accounts. So the question is: can one Apple ID have multiple @me.com accounts? I don't think it can. I think the way around this is to create a new me.com Apple ID' for each person (or each device if you want separate iCloud storage). Use this new Apple ID @me.com account as your iCloud account. Then under the Store in Settings, change it to the Apple ID that everyone uses for iTunes purchases. This way everyone can still share purchases and everyone will have their own separate iCloud account. Do you think that will work?

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