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  1. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I see the potential, especially to send information to professionals who can assess it clinically. I can see it eventually saving lives.
    As a nurse working in healthcare IT, I totally agree!!
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    09-15-2018 11:44 AM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    As a nurse working in healthcare IT, I totally agree!!
    I give you credit!
    I have my own personal feelings on whether all this technology is good for inpatients or not but it’s here to stay. Seems like the time at the bedside has decreased while charting has increased. Of course there’s metadata and all that goes with that.

    We’re on Meditech right now and probably going to Epic in the next couple years. It’s going to be a huge, system wide undertaking.

    Fellow RN BTW.
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    09-15-2018 11:53 AM
  3. Mr Segundus's Avatar
    If you think EKG on an Apple Watch is the big hook item this year, then I'm simply not sure how to respond to that... Interesting take on things... Maybe because people at the event actually clapped unsolicitedly at it?

    If I feel a heart palpitation, I'm going straight to the hospital. I am not going to base my decision on an EKG from a device as unreliable as a watch. The people who actually need EKGs have no business using a watch for it. It can be a life or death situation. Go to the hospital. Watch can GFIT.
    I agree with this. While the EKG functionality on the Apple Watch could potentially be useful for doctors, it's in no way meant to diagnose, treat, or really do much for you. I'm sure a doctor would find that info useful for overall trends in activity level, but I wouldn't trust heart monitors on a watch, that's for sure, especially when it comes to my health.
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    09-15-2018 12:03 PM
  4. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I give you credit!
    I have my own personal feelings on whether all this technology is good for inpatients or not but it’s here to stay. Seems like the time at the bedside has decreased while charting has increased. Of course there’s metadata and all that goes with that.

    We’re on Meditech right now and probably going to Epic in the next couple years. It’s going to be a huge, system wide undertaking.

    Fellow RN BTW.
    Nice to see a fellow RN weighing in Tech companies are trying to make charting less intrusive, so as not to take the clinician away from the patient. Tech in Health is going in the right direction, it’s just extremely expensive.

    I’ve never used Meditech, but I’m very familiar with it. I’ve used Allscripts & Epic. I’m actually on the Epic team working as an analyst. Healthcare definitely needs more clinical folks behinds the scenes, as either analysts or informaticists, because sometimes things get way to techy for the end user, and a lot of IT folks don’t understand that.
    09-15-2018 12:23 PM
  5. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    Agreed.

    It’s an old battlecry that ran another company into the ground.
    I know you aren’t talking about the company that has beat the skin off of Apple in every segment except for cell phones and wearables. Because if you are, Microsoft has completely dominated the “pro tablet” and small computing segment that Apple is desperately trying to market to with its iPad Pro and poor excuse of productivity accessories. Also, Cloud, gaming, office software, server solutions, etc.

    With that being said, Apple’s consumer first approach - that “teeny bopper” focus - is why it is able to release fantastic, consistent, and stable hardware. I loved my Lumia until Microsoft said “well let’s make this a business device” and I use my phone FOR my business. But I need the fluidity and Apple crispness. I don’t want enterprise features on my phone, I have my Surface for that. I want it to continue to improve the dumb ish I can do in texts, in FaceTime. iOS12 with Group FaceTime, the Xs with a bigger display, more storage, etc. was exactly what they needed with the splash iOS 12 SHOULD make.
    09-15-2018 12:34 PM
  6. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I know you aren’t talking about the company that has beat the skin off of Apple in every segment except for cell phones and wearables. Because if you are, Microsoft has completely dominated the “pro tablet” and small computing segment that Apple is desperately trying to market to with its iPad Pro and poor excuse of productivity accessories. Also, Cloud, gaming, office software, server solutions, etc.

    With that being said, Apple’s consumer first approach - that “teeny bopper” focus - is why it is able to release fantastic, consistent, and stable hardware. I loved my Lumia until Microsoft said “well let’s make this a business device” and I use my phone FOR my business. But I need the fluidity and Apple crispness. I don’t want enterprise features on my phone, I have my Surface for that. I want it to continue to improve the dumb ish I can do in texts, in FaceTime. iOS12 with Group FaceTime, the Xs with a bigger display, more storage, etc. was exactly what they needed with the splash iOS 12 SHOULD make.
    WHOA NELLY!!!! Steady on!

    No I wasn’t talking about Microsoft.

    For your knowledge, I have a Lumia 1520 in red that I loved. Still love. It’s not in my junk drawer, it’s in my nightstand drawer and *just* this morning I went on a search and destroy mission for a charger I could use to turn it on and give it a go on my spare line.

    And you got the demographic wrong too. Nowhere near teeny bopper status.
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    09-15-2018 12:42 PM
  7. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    WHOA NELLY!!!! Steady on!

    No I wasn’t talking about Microsoft.

    For your knowledge, I have a Lumia 1520 in red that I loved. Still love. It’s not in my junk dresser, it’s in my nightstand drawer and *just* this morning I went on a search and destroy mission for a charger I could use to turn it on and give it a go on my spare line.

    And you got the demographic wrong too. Nowhere near teeny bopper status.
    I wasn’t responding to you with that second paragraph. The first few posts used that term.
    09-15-2018 12:43 PM
  8. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I wasn’t responding to you with that second paragraph. The first few posts used that term.
    Oh.....so you’re going to gloss over the fact that you went off half cocked with an assumption that I was disparaging Microsoft?

    If I weren’t too tired to go upstairs again I’d show you my Lumia. I’ve certainly about it in the past, back when I used to hang around these forums.
    09-15-2018 12:47 PM
  9. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    Oh.....so you’re going to gloss over the fact that you went off half cocked with an assumption that I was disparaging Microsoft?

    If I weren’t too tired to go upstairs again I’d show you my Lumia. I’ve certainly about it in the past, back when I used to hang around these forums.
    I’m not glossing over it. You said you weren’t talking about them. Nothing else to say. I don’t need to see your phone. There are also plenty of Lumia owners who hate the company lol.
    09-15-2018 12:49 PM
  10. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I’m not glossing over it. You said you weren’t talking about them. Nothing else to say. I don’t need to see your phone. There are also plenty of Lumia owners who hate the company lol.
    And there are Apple lovers who love Microsoft. I’m one. I know other Apple users who won’t touch a Mac or an iPad and spend their money on Surface tablets and won’t ever leave Microsoft computers.

    The world isn’t black and white. The world is a whole lot of gray. The extremes and the assumptions are what get us in trouble.
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    09-15-2018 01:05 PM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    And there are Apple lovers who love Microsoft. I’m one. I know other Apple users who won’t touch a Mac or an iPad and spend their money on Surface tablets and won’t ever leave Microsoft computers.

    The world isn’t black and white. The world is a whole lot of gray. The extremes and the assumptions are what get us in trouble.
    Very true and, I will repeat, choices are a good thing for consumers.
    I tried MS (Still have an Idol 4s) but ended up switching totally to Apple. The Surface line just didn’t fit well with my consumer needs. Business wise they are awesome. No one has yet (iPad Pro and Surface) built that devices that meets both consumer and enterprise very well.
    09-15-2018 01:22 PM
  12. Trees's Avatar
    I liked the energy and humor from the 2018 WWDC Keynote. I think modern technology is so good now, that it can sometimes be difficult to appreciate what an incremental or S release may bring. Not a negative statement about anyone, just an observation.

    I'm from a generation that grew up when black and white TV and rotary phones were still in use, and card catalogs were a search engine for finding information. Relatively affordable (non-mainframe) based computers were just becoming available. The internet was there, but not for the average home.

    We have it really good now, and its cool to see what each new product release (Apple's or any other technology company) brings.
    Last edited by Trees; 09-16-2018 at 07:43 AM.
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    09-15-2018 01:35 PM
  13. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Very true and, I will repeat, choices are a good thing for consumers.
    I tried MS (Still have an Idol 4s) but ended up switching totally to Apple. The Surface line just didn’t fit well with my consumer needs. Business wise they are awesome. No one has yet (iPad Pro and Surface) built that devices that meets both consumer and enterprise very well.
    The only thing the Surface is missing is mobile (UWP) apps. There is nothing about the hardware that doesn’t meet consumer needs, so it not about “building a device.”

    It’s about getting developers to support an additional platform - the same reason the Surface is so successful in the business and enterprise niche. This grows increasingly difficult as the years pass.

    All the iPad seems to be getting is more “me too creative apps,” while a lot of other markets aren’t seeing much development. This is inching off both devices when it comes to business/professional use.
    09-16-2018 06:28 PM
  14. TgeekB's Avatar
    The only thing the Surface is missing is mobile (UWP) apps. There is nothing about the hardware that doesn’t meet consumer needs, so it not about “building a device.”

    It’s about getting developers to support an additional platform - the same reason the Surface is so successful in the business and enterprise niche. This grows increasingly difficult as the years pass.

    All the iPad seems to be getting is more “me too creative apps,” while a lot of other markets aren’t seeing much development. This is inching off both devices when it comes to business/professional use.
    Sorry if I was unclear; building a device to me is both about hardware and software. You need both to be successful.

    As far as getting developers to support another platform, I totally agree. I’m just not sure that will happen anytime soon. They need assurance that the market will be there and MS has failed them too many times.

    I do wonder where the iPad is heading. It is a great creative device but will it develop further? Seems the Apple Watch is the new focus. My iPad Pro fills all my personal needs at the moment so I’ll sit back and watch for now.
    09-16-2018 06:35 PM
  15. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Sorry if I was unclear; building a device to me is both about hardware and software. You need both to be successful.

    As far as getting developers to support another platform, I totally agree. I’m just not sure that will happen anytime soon. They need assurance that the market will be there and MS has failed them too many times.

    I do wonder where the iPad is heading. It is a great creative device but will it develop further? Seems the Apple Watch is the new focus. My iPad Pro fills all my personal needs at the moment so I’ll sit back and watch for now.
    Microsoft has the software. They aren’t going to solo-replicate all the top apps in the iOS App Store on their own.

    They have built the platform. Developers need to build the apps.

    You were crystal clear. I just think you are lumping too much responsibility on platform developers. Last time I checked, Microsoft’s services were pretty well accessible on Windows 10 in UWP form.

    It’s third parties that have yet to move over.

    iPad has the advantage that it was always a mobile tablet OS running device. As a result, people jumped on board early and developers never had to face the choice between a macOS or iOS application for that form factor. There was only one choice, and the economics made sense to jump on it.

    Things are different in the Windows ecosystem, where most people aren’t using tablets and many of the apps that keep people on Windows simply do not scale down to Mobile well - or at all.

    The only tablet I need is a Kindle Fire. If I were to buy one, it would be a surface largely because of Dartfish (not a UWP app, but being able to record from device straight into it is nice; without dragging a cart of equipment around everywhere). Mobile analysis apps perform badly and simply aren’t usable in any serious way.

    And that’s exactly why Surface Pro/Book exists. For people like me, if we decide to care about the tablet form factor (currently, I don’t).
    09-17-2018 02:37 PM
  16. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Oooooh My. Remember how I said I had ordered a Galaxy Tab S4 from Samsung ? Well... they never mentioned that it was back ordered with no date of delivery but they took my money anyway.
    When I tried to contact them I got bounced off voicemail to voicemail.
    I wound up having to contact my bank to help me with the cancellation and refund, they were at it for an hour before they actually talked to someone. Unreal.
    Sooooooo... my opinion on Samsung is still valid, lol. Never again.

    Now if Apple could please get a new IPP out, I’d be stoked.
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    09-19-2018 11:53 AM
  17. n8ter#AC's Avatar
    Enjoying my Note 9.

    Actually surprised at how pleasant Samsungs ecosystem is turning out to be. Think I'm gonna buy a Samsung Watch in a couple of months.
    10-04-2018 02:16 PM
  18. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I'm enjoying my Xs Max, and with that said I'm glad I skipped the X last year and got the form factor of the Max that I've been waiting for since Apple released its first large screen iPhone 6 Plus. To be honest my days of upgrading every year is behind me. Its seems that I appreciate the actual upgrade much more after two years.
    In my opinion the Series 4 Apple Watch stole the show and I will be getting one of those as well...LOL.
    10-04-2018 02:36 PM
  19. Quis89's Avatar
    When thinking about it, I'm not sure if I was "underwhelmed". I just wasn't expecting much this year. It's kind of tough to top last years X. I wasn't expecting them to do anything overly impressive this year.
    10-04-2018 03:26 PM
  20. Ken Magel's Avatar
    Apple cannot possibly be as exciting every year. I would hope they would have maximum excitement about every three years to give me and other non-wealthy customers the chance to enjoy the previous revolutions before obsoleting them.
    10-05-2018 10:55 AM
  21. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    I pray to god the only change we see from this phone for the foreseeable future is the reduction of the notch by possibly integrating all of the tech into one sensor. That’s it. The size, the dimensions, the feel is all perfect. I thought so of the X, and the Xs has a slight difference about its grip (I can’t quite figure it out since I usually use a case) that makes it better. I just want internal and technological improvements at this point. The only change, design wise, that I would welcome is a galaxy style wrap display. I’d love to be able to activate Siri and see appointments just on the edge of the display.
    10-05-2018 11:18 AM
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