I stumbled across this discussion looking for an affordable THIRD Ipod Shuffle. I had three, lost one, want another one. Hey if all those unused Ipod Shuffles out there are unwanted please sell on Amazon or some place. I've been processing mail for 32 years I don't have to concentrate to do the job anymore. I've never been so happy at work since I happened on to library books downloaded on my Ipod Shuffle which clips onto my pocket, out of the way. Is that new Ipod phone looking device as big as a phone? Exactly where would I keep that big thing while I move around at work? I need a third Ipod cause I got my coworker friend hooked on the library books, too. It seems like every commenter on here was youngish. I think we need a baby boomer manufacturer that caters to older customers. I like technology but you youngsters can have all the new, new this, new that. Music, music, music. I believe there's a lot of older people with lots of money to spend on the devices we prefer. We need a representative.