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10-04-2015 06:55 AMLike 0 -
This weekend I dropped a solution file into my Dropbox, it had about 10,000 small files. Do you know how long it took Dropbox to sync all those files? Well over an hour. Imagine dropping that solution file into your Dropbox, then waiting a whole frikkin' hour before you can work on it on your iPad Pro.
Dropbox is definitely a poor man's version of a file management system. If you need a true productivity device, you aren't going to use Dropbox on iOS. You'd just use a different OS.10-05-2015 05:08 PMLike 0 - iPad Pro bc im an Apple guy. Surface because i want a 2nd device running a complete OS, not a mobile OS. That being said Apple products are wayyy more sexier than all other products.10-06-2015 12:53 AMLike 0
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- I actualy was really thinking of picking up a surface pro, however I always kinda wanted to have a MAC after using windows for so many years. so Im going to be eyeing a retina macbook pro in the future.10-06-2015 03:55 PMLike 0
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- I definitely want to see some cross-interaction with these three (sorry Crackberry and Connectedly. Maybe Connectedly as well). But if people are going to be bashing each other instead of giving time-worthy opinions, then nevermind...10-07-2015 03:20 PMLike 0
- And seeing that this somehow turned into a battle of clouds somewhat, I'm sticking with OneDrive - 1.2TB free storage (I think it's 10-15GB free, but there are so many ways to bump that number up) and pricing is very reasonable. My main devices run some version of Windows and everything gets synced quickly and easily. I have 2 iPhones and a few Android products scattered around, they have OneDrive, and it works flawless as well.
I have Google Drive as well, but it just doesn't work for me on the same level. Never even tried Dropbox, no need to do so.10-07-2015 03:37 PMLike 0 - Dropbox is limited to 2.5 GB, unless you want to pony up additional cash for a subscription. Same case with Google Drive.
This weekend I dropped a solution file into my Dropbox, it had about 10,000 small files. Do you know how long it took Dropbox to sync all those files? Well over an hour. Imagine dropping that solution file into your Dropbox, then waiting a whole frikkin' hour before you can work on it on your iPad Pro.
Dropbox is definitely a poor man's version of a file management system. If you need a true productivity device, you aren't going to use Dropbox on iOS. You'd just use a different OS.
I don't think you bothered to read my response, but I was pointing out how we use cloud based storage with the Surface Pro's we use in the production office. It has an OS that allows for file management, but we don't use it, because it's not as efficient or convenient at all.
And this is how it works with every production I'm on...when we start working out logistical stuff, and the cartography actually begins, everything is accessible via the various cloud services we have (including iCloud, since the iWork suite is really starting to becoming feature rich, and I personally like using pages myself, so I kind of force certain things through it since I'm the boss, lol)
Anyways, I know there are certain things you'd like to use to poke holes in the idea of replacing an on board file management system with cloud based options, but as a person who uses this system perfectly efficiently DAILY with very large productions companies, I can tell you from a very in depth experience, it works just fine...and if the iPad Pro has really focused on precision of the Apple Pencil, the iPad Pro will become a heavy hitter in the market for graphic designers and illustrators.moaningmyrtle likes this.10-08-2015 08:04 PMLike 1 - It's the same ol' song and dance honestly...any time Apple releases something, there's somebody waiting in the wings to point out how useless it is because of this, that or the other. Most of the time it's just opinionated banter, so arguing it becomes a moot point...in this case, he's just flat out wrong, so it makes it easier to retort to. The days where on board file systems were the ONLY legitimate option in business are LONNNNNNNG over.moaningmyrtle likes this.10-08-2015 08:38 PMLike 1
- It's the same ol' song and dance honestly...any time Apple releases something, there's somebody waiting in the wings to point out how useless it is because of this, that or the other. Most of the time it's just opinionated banter, so arguing it becomes a moot point...in this case, he's just flat out wrong, so it makes it easier to retort to. The days where on board file systems were the ONLY legitimate option in business are LONNNNNNNG over.
Sent from my iPhone 6s Plus using Tapatalk10-08-2015 08:49 PMLike 0 - pkcableQ&A Team Leader
VR ExpertMacBook or MacBook Pro? That is the way I would go! Or get the surface as someone said it's a real computer. (Not that I don't love my ipad mind you) Sounds like you are looking for a computer!10-09-2015 03:17 PMLike 0 - As a graphic designer day in and day out I'm using Mac's and I think the hardware for Macbooks etc are phenomenal. That said I think Microsoft are taking notice and catching up by marketing towards productivity.
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Laura Knotek likes this.10-09-2015 04:07 PMLike 1 -
- When it comes to these types of computers, I'm going with the Surface Pro 4 just because it's a better computer for most desktop purposes. I do like the iPad but really am looking for portability on that more than anything else.Laura Knotek likes this.10-11-2015 03:12 AMLike 1
- I am torn between the iPad and pro4. I can't afford both.
For me the 4 maxed out with 16 GB ram and docking station.
Sent from my SM-N910U using TapatalkLaura Knotek likes this.10-11-2015 03:37 AMLike 1 - Surface if you need a full computer experience. As far as the other two, if money is no option, iPad Pro. If you are on a budget, the Pixel C.Laura Knotek likes this.10-11-2015 03:36 PMLike 1
- I have all three and they have their own purposes. I use the devices most though. I will be getting an iPad Pro and a surface 4 to test out though.10-11-2015 05:16 PMLike 0
- Surface Pro 4.
iOS still isn't good enough to buy an iPad for "Pro Use" "for me" (Disclaimer: This disclaimer is standard fare here, else this one sentence will be ripped to shreds based on the assumption that I think my opinion applies to every single soul on planet Earth.)
Also, the ability to intro with more peripherals (External Hard Drives, SD Cards from a Camera without a Camera Connection Kit) and run full-feature software like Lightroom, Photoshop, etc. really drives the "value" of the device up from a platform standpoint. I have an 8" Windows Tablet with 2GB RAM and the kinds of Apps you can run on this thing + the way it interpose with standard peripherals (via the $3 USB OTG cables I got from Amazon) is kind of amazing.
If you're looking for something that runs great "Mobile Apps" then the iPad is obviously where it is. As a convertible, it still doesn't cut it, though. Pixel C I'm not sure what to think of it. Given how badly Android dev seem to care about Tablet App Optimization and the fact that it shares much of iOS' limitations as a convertible device... I'm not sure if it should be an option considering you can get a Surface 3 for the same price.10-12-2015 03:51 PMLike 0 - Surface Pro 4.
iOS still isn't good enough to buy an iPad for "Pro Use" "for me" (Disclaimer: This disclaimer is standard fare here, else this one sentence will be ripped to shreds based on the assumption that I think my opinion applies to every single soul on planet Earth.)
Also, the ability to intro with more peripherals (External Hard Drives, SD Cards from a Camera without a Camera Connection Kit) and run full-feature software like Lightroom, Photoshop, etc. really drives the "value" of the device up from a platform standpoint. I have an 8" Windows Tablet with 2GB RAM and the kinds of Apps you can run on this thing + the way it interpose with standard peripherals (via the $3 USB OTG cables I got from Amazon) is kind of amazing.
If you're looking for something that runs great "Mobile Apps" then the iPad is obviously where it is. As a convertible, it still doesn't cut it, though. Pixel C I'm not sure what to think of it. Given how badly Android dev seem to care about Tablet App Optimization and the fact that it shares much of iOS' limitations as a convertible device... I'm not sure if it should be an option considering you can get a Surface 3 for the same price.10-15-2015 01:52 AMLike 0 -
It's also curious that people are discrediting the iPad Pro's ability to hang with devices like the Surface Pro before the thing has even hit the shelves. There was a comment made about how you can't run full feature software on the iPad...but the apps in development, in terms of graphics development, are on par with any "full feature" software of the same type...Affinity Suite, if paired with a precision tablet function, would be an incredible tool in this field.
You can run all the "full feature" software you want to, but if it doesn't do any particular function well, what's the point? The Surface Pro can run the PC version of photoshop, but it doesn't do it all that well, and the pen interface and performance is not optimal at all...so if the iPad Pro can (and that is still a big IF since we don't know) do graphic design with superior precision on a mobile app, how is that a "fault" compared to a device who runs a full feature software but doesn't do it all that well for the same purpose?Terry1960 and moaningmyrtle like this.10-16-2015 09:16 PMLike 2 - I saw an interesting write up on pricenfees for the surface 3 and they were rather pleased with it - so it gets my vote10-25-2015 07:25 PMLike 0
- Curious why you felt the need to point out "Windows" in relation to his comments about peripherals...OS X has the exact same support in this regard.
It's also curious that people are discrediting the iPad Pro's ability to hang with devices like the Surface Pro before the thing has even hit the shelves. There was a comment made about how you can't run full feature software on the iPad...but the apps in development, in terms of graphics development, are on par with any "full feature" software of the same type...Affinity Suite, if paired with a precision tablet function, would be an incredible tool in this field.
You can run all the "full feature" software you want to, but if it doesn't do any particular function well, what's the point? The Surface Pro can run the PC version of photoshop, but it doesn't do it all that well, and the pen interface and performance is not optimal at all...so if the iPad Pro can (and that is still a big IF since we don't know) do graphic design with superior precision on a mobile app, how is that a "fault" compared to a device who runs a full feature software but doesn't do it all that well for the same purpose?
The previous gamepad is still in great condition. I've been using it with Windows since 2007. Every single version from XP to Vista to 7 to 8.x to 10 has continued to function with it.
Of course if you limit yourself to only the very obvious things (like Keyboards, Mice, Printers, and obvious stuff like that), then I guess you're slightly correct. Slightly.
With Windows you don't even look at the packaging because you know as long as the thing had at least an XP or Vista driver there's about a 99.8% chance that it will install and run flawlessly on any subsequent version of Windows. I do a lot of research before I buy peripherals for my iMac by comparison.Speedygi likes this.10-25-2015 10:33 PMLike 1
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