1. HankAZ's Avatar
    Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this will get better over time. It is definitely a good sign that alot of the USA based iPhone users on here are saying that their limit never runs out due to public WiFi being alot more readily available than in the rest of the world. But even in cities and towns where this is easier to do, wouldn't it still be much more convenient not to have to resort to switching public WiFi connection each time? I'm sure I can't be alone in thinking that the ideal setup would be to just be able to use our iPhone for anything internet that we wanted or needed as freely as we do our own home WiFi connections, wherever we happen to be at the time. This to me would be true mobile internet. So I do hope that we get to see this in the near future.
    What part of this is not possible today?

    You CAN "use [y]our iPhone for anything internet [you] wanted or needed as freely as [you] do [y]our own home WiFi connections, wherever [you], wherever [you] happen to be at the time.

    No one is stopping you or anyone else. You just have to be willing and able to pay for it. If you are unable or unwilling to pay for it, then you need to use discipline and self control to stay within your budget. No one is preventing you from using your cellular data connection as much as you choose.
    Last edited by HankAZ; 06-02-2015 at 12:35 PM.
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    06-02-2015 11:14 AM
  2. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Saying unlimited data is essential is like saying the iPhone itself is essential...neither is true at all.
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    06-02-2015 01:51 PM
  3. kataran's Avatar
    I've had unlimited data since sprint first offered it years back but switched off just last year when I realized I wasn't using that much data and saved myself 70 dollars a month. So no it's not essential
    06-02-2015 04:28 PM
  4. sioux21's Avatar
    I hate that they say "unlimited" but they limit your speed internet lol...
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    06-04-2015 05:01 AM
  5. gdruin74's Avatar
    I use 20 to 30g a month and have never been throttled by T-Mobile. Depends on the plan you pick. There are some that throttle after a set amount of data usage.
    06-04-2015 07:47 AM
  6. Greek Geek's Avatar
    What part of this is not possible today?

    You CAN "use [y]our iPhone for anything internet [you] wanted or needed as freely as [you] do [y]our own home WiFi connections, wherever [you], wherever [you] happen to be at the time.

    No one is stopping you or anyone else. You just have to be willing and able to pay for it. If you are unable or unwilling to pay for it, then you need to use discipline and self control to stay within your budget. No one is preventing you from using your cellular data connection as much as you choose.
    Was this a genuine question? (if so, I can elaborate) but I suspect from your previous replies to other posters who differed in opinion to you, that it would simply be more constructive for me to acknowledge that we have differences in opinion, and politely just agree to disagree. I'm not here to fight, it's simply not my way.

    But for anyone else who is genuinely interested in any kind of (non antagonistic) discussion, I was simply putting it out there that the posters who had previously mentioned that they (personally) felt they would benefit from having a cellular data plan available to them that was as unlimited as their home WiFi connections, that they are not alone.

    Peace.
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    06-08-2015 09:40 AM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Was this a genuine question? (if so, I can elaborate) but I suspect from your previous replies to other posters who differed in opinion to you, that it would simply be more constructive for me to acknowledge that we have differences in opinion, and politely just agree to disagree. I'm not here to fight, it's simply not my way.

    But for anyone else who is genuinely interested in any kind of (non antagonistic) discussion, I was simply putting it out there that the posters who had previously mentioned that they (personally) felt they would benefit from having a cellular data plan available to them that was as unlimited as their home WiFi connections, that they are not alone.

    Peace.
    The OP did not state that he would benefit from having an unlimited data plan. He stated that having an unlimited data plan is essential for mobile phones nowadays in 2015, and that is a lie, in general terms.
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    06-08-2015 10:05 AM
  8. HankAZ's Avatar
    Was this a genuine question? (if so, I can elaborate) but I suspect from your previous replies to other posters who differed in opinion to you, that it would simply be more constructive for me to acknowledge that we have differences in opinion, and politely just agree to disagree. I'm not here to fight, it's simply not my way.

    But for anyone else who is genuinely interested in any kind of (non antagonistic) discussion, I was simply putting it out there that the posters who had previously mentioned that they (personally) felt they would benefit from having a cellular data plan available to them that was as unlimited as their home WiFi connections, that they are not alone.

    Peace.
    First of all, I appreciate the cheap shot.

    I was not being antagonistic. It was an honest question. The OP says that having an unlimited data plan is essential "nowadays". I say it's not essential. But whether or not it's essential, there is nothing that cannot be done using cellular data - and the OP (and the rest of us) are free to use as much data as he (we) want. We just have to pay for it. That's how life works.

    There is a fundamental difference between having ubiquitous cellular data and having an available "all you can eat" data for a fixed price. What a cellular provider company offers (or doesn't offer) is up to them to determine. What you or I or any single "customer" claims is essential, is absolutely immaterial.
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    06-08-2015 10:34 AM
  9. Greek Geek's Avatar
    As long as your response was, you still did not prove that an unlimited data plan is "essential". It is something you prefer and your following statement is proof of that: " I'm sure I can't be alone in thinking that the ideal setup would be to just be able to use our iPhone for anything internet that we wanted or needed as freely as we do our own home WiFi connections,..."
    Agreed. What you have said here is constructive, so thankyou for jumping in to help clarify the distinction here. While I could tell that this is all that the original poster of this thread had meant, I think it was just the ambiguous use of the word "essential" that led him to be misconstrued as meaning "essential [to everyone]", whereas he like myself would have only meant that as "essential [to those of us who either have needs for greater than is currently available to us]." (...or as you better put it: "ideal", as this is definitely much less ambiguous).

    So now that between us we have hopefully cleared up any misunderstanding, hopefully this should help avoid any future misinterpretation, and people can now feel free to join in this discussion without fear, as it is an interesting topic, and can be helpful in regards to the progress of our much beloved technology to let our desires (and the differences between how we each individually use them) to be known by those who design them.
    06-08-2015 10:38 AM
  10. HankAZ's Avatar
    Agreed. What you have said here is constructive, so thankyou for jumping in to help clarify the distinction here. While I could tell that this is all that the original poster of this thread had meant, I think it was just the ambiguous use of the word "essential" that led him to be misconstrued as meaning "essential [to everyone]", whereas he like myself would have only meant that as "essential [to those of us who either have needs for greater than is currently available to us]." (...or as you better put it: "ideal", as this is definitely much less ambiguous).

    So now that between us we have hopefully cleared up any misunderstanding, hopefully this should help avoid any future misinterpretation, and people can now feel free to join in this discussion without fear, as it is an interesting topic, and can be helpful in regards to the progress of our much beloved technology to let our desires (and the differences between how we each individually use them) to be known by those who design them.
    Also germane to this discussion is the OP's history. Take a few minutes to read some of his posts. It will give you a fuller understanding of why some of us respond to these posts the way we do.
    06-08-2015 10:43 AM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Agreed. What you have said here is constructive, so thankyou for jumping in to help clarify the distinction here. While I could tell that this is all that the original poster of this thread had meant, I think it was just the ambiguous use of the word "essential" that led him to be misconstrued as meaning "essential [to everyone]", whereas he like myself would have only meant that as "essential [to those of us who either have needs for greater than is currently available to us]." (...or as you better put it: "ideal", as this is definitely much less ambiguous).

    So now that between us we have hopefully cleared up any misunderstanding, hopefully this should help avoid any future misinterpretation, and people can now feel free to join in this discussion without fear, as it is an interesting topic, and can be helpful in regards to the progress of our much beloved technology to let our desires (and the differences between how we each individually use them) to be known by those who design them.
    There was no misunderstanding the OP's intentions or use of the term "essential". No one is prohibited from joining in any discussions here at iMore, but that also means that no one is free from being debated or corrected when posting a statement that is factually incorrect. Too many people, as of late, tend to want to demonize the people who bring a false statement to light and make excuses for the person who posted it. Those who bring attention to lies are not the bad guys and those who stand by and let the lie stand or ignore it are not helping the person who posted the lie.
    06-08-2015 11:23 AM
  12. gfederline9's Avatar
    Was this a genuine question? (if so, I can elaborate) but I suspect from your previous replies to other posters who differed in opinion to you, that it would simply be more constructive for me to acknowledge that we have differences in opinion, and politely just agree to disagree. I'm not here to fight, it's simply not my way.

    But for anyone else who is genuinely interested in any kind of (non antagonistic) discussion, I was simply putting it out there that the posters who had previously mentioned that they (personally) felt they would benefit from having a cellular data plan available to them that was as unlimited as their home WiFi connections, that they are not alone.

    Peace.
    The OP did not state that he would benefit from having an unlimited data plan. He stated that having an unlimited data plan is essential for mobile phones nowadays in 2015, and that is a lie, in general terms.
    I and everyone do benefit from having an unlimited data plan and having an unlimited data plan is essential for mobile phones nowadays in 2015









    - you don't need to be a word or grammar police ,


    - you say unlimited data plan is not essential , negative to this post only because you afraid it will affect iPhone sales and gives criticism to mobile phones company and boardband company's

    the thing is unlimited data plan boots sales ,

    everybody wants unlimited data plan and we all want to use our mobile phone all you can eat without limiting the data

    I don't buy some mobile phones from some mobile boardband because they don't have unlimited data plan

    some people do choice to buy some mobile phones from some mobile boardband company because they have unlimited data plan
    06-08-2015 11:39 AM
  13. kch50428's Avatar
    - you don't need to be a word or grammar police ,
    You need to quit stating your opinion as universal fact. It's not.
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    06-08-2015 11:40 AM
  14. gfederline9's Avatar
    You need to quit stating your opinion as universal fact. It's not.
    some people do choice to buy some mobile phones from some mobile boardband company because they have unlimited data plan
    06-08-2015 11:44 AM
  15. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    .....
    - you say unlimited data plan is not essential , negative to this post only because you afraid it will affect iPhone sales and gives criticism to mobile phones company and boardband company's

    the thing is unlimited data plan boots sales ,

    .....
    @Greek Geek, Care to comment on this?
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 06-08-2015 at 12:10 PM.
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    06-08-2015 11:49 AM
  16. gfederline9's Avatar
    @Greek Geek Care to comment on this?
    you is you , not greek , Greek wants unlimited data plan ,















    her mastery is now taking away Just Me D word police and negative to unlimited data plan position ,

    her mastery is now giving greek and everyone n me who wants unlimited data plan a unlimited data plan military police position

    I believe America stands for freedom , that's why they fight for independence from UK for more freedom and independence , that's what unlimited data plan is for - freedom , freedom for every individual -
    and limited data plan is restriction and oppression

    we all want freedom

    we, and all others who believe in freedom as deeply as we do , would rather die on our feet than live on our knees . Franklin D.Roosevelt


    some people do choice to buy some mobile phones from some mobile boardband company because they have unlimited data plan
    06-08-2015 12:17 PM
  17. kch50428's Avatar
    My what an impressive straw-man argument you've constructed... smh...
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    06-08-2015 12:21 PM
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  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    you is you , not greek , Greek wants unlimited data plan ,
    Okay, I'll play......WWDC doesn't start for another 15 minutes or so.

    her mastery is now taking away Just Me D word police and negative to unlimited data plan position ,
    Wrong! I am not against having an unlimited plan. In fact, I'm currently on AT&T's unlimited data plan. Having said that, it's not essential. I was fine with the tiered data plan I had with Verizon.

    her mastery is now giving greek and everyone n me who wants unlimited data plan a unlimited data plan military police position
    Wow! I don't know what to say...

    I believe America stands for freedom , that's why they fight for independence from UK for more freedom and independence , that's what unlimited data plan is for - freedom , freedom for every individual -
    and limited data plan is restriction and oppression
    So, you're completely ignoring the fact that you can currently consume as much data as you want, but because you don't want to pay extra beyond a certain amount, you want to associate it with being "oppressed"? Really?

    we all want freedom
    You do realize that "freedom" comes with a price, right?

    we, and all others who believe in freedom as deeply as we do , would rather die on our feet than live on our knees . Franklin D.Roosevelt
    Then get off your knees begging for a luxury you already enjoy at a price.


    some people do choice to buy some mobile phones from some mobile boardband company because they have unlimited data plan
    That also mean that some don't.
    06-08-2015 12:55 PM
  20. pkcable's Avatar
    I paid almost 1000 dollars for my iPhone just to keep my unlimited plan. I have bought several unlocked phones over the the last few years.
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    06-08-2015 01:53 PM
  21. HankAZ's Avatar
    you is you , not greek , Greek wants unlimited data plan ,

    her mastery is now taking away Just Me D word police and negative to unlimited data plan position ,

    her mastery is now giving greek and everyone n me who wants unlimited data plan a unlimited data plan military police position

    I believe America stands for freedom , that's why they fight for independence from UK for more freedom and independence , that's what unlimited data plan is for - freedom , freedom for every individual -
    and limited data plan is restriction and oppression

    we all want freedom

    we, and all others who believe in freedom as deeply as we do , would rather die on our feet than live on our knees . Franklin D.Roosevelt


    some people do choice to buy some mobile phones from some mobile boardband company because they have unlimited data plan
    Please, just put down the shovel.
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    06-08-2015 02:26 PM
  22. gfederline9's Avatar
    ye people will start to build their own radio station and server to provide unlimited internet data for themself

    for unlimited internet data access
    06-08-2015 05:37 PM
  23. kch50428's Avatar
    ye people will start to build their own radio station and server to provide unlimited internet data for themself

    for unlimited internet data access
    That simply can not be done.

    Period.

    Governments license radio spectrum and the barriers to licensure are enormous... your proposition here is beyond ludicrous...bordering on guano loco.

    Reminder on the rule of holes - when you're this deep in one, you gotta quit diggin'.
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    06-08-2015 06:04 PM
  24. grover5's Avatar
    I paid almost 1000 dollars for my iPhone just to keep my unlimited plan. I have bought several unlocked phones over the the last few years.
    That's a good route to take.

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    06-08-2015 06:34 PM
  25. gfederline9's Avatar
    That simply can not be done.

    Period.

    Governments license radio spectrum and the barriers to licensure are enormous... your proposition here is beyond ludicrous...bordering on guano loco.

    Reminder on the rule of holes - when you're this deep in one, you gotta quit diggin'.
    it's not deep , chinese and indian people is so poor they can't buy iPhone , so they go become slave and make iPhone , manufacturing iPhone , they learned the skill and tech to make iPhone , years later they use that skill to make their own brand android phone ,

    remember 40 years ago there is no chinese brand computer , washing machine , car , electronic device ?
    when they are so poor they become slave to manufacture the " rich " stuff , they learn when they manufacture it and they make their own brand after they learned how to do it ,
    the same like rocket

    I m not chinese , indeed I m having war with chinese , something like tibet and china and the xiajiang muslim and china , u saw me on tele ,but just saying the more you block something , they will just learn and do it their way

    the other way round
    like china try to oppress Muslim xiajiang from independent and invasion to xiajiang , see what happen in xiajiang , just google it , clash and attack every where

    the more you press the poor , they will just learn and make their own brand and dominate the world , 50 years ago nobody think everything would make in china , nobody think chinese would learned everything and make their own brand
    the other way round , I guess 70 years ago or in the first place when china start the invasion to those outter shire , they don't think they would fight for independence and really doing it and really did it and learned how to gear up themself

    the more you press it , the more it rebounce

    so people will learn how to get unlimited internet data , is to make it themself
    06-08-2015 07:38 PM
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