1. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Why? Explain please.
    You are making a blanket statement that Health care systems using Apple products don't care/have secure networks. And that's bogus.


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    05-13-2015 05:21 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    I will never understand why some people revel in the hopes that a large and important company dies, along with the many thousands of people losing their jobs and income.
    Schadenfreude... and Apple users have been putting up with ordure of this same nature about Apple from enthusiasts of that particular platform.
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    05-13-2015 05:24 PM
  3. canuckvoip's Avatar
    You are making a blanket statement that Health care systems using Apple products don't care/have secure networks. And that's bogus.


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    What I'm saying is that Apple has no enterprise class security at all. None! They must rely on 3rd party companies to TRY and do what BlackBerry does best. The likes of MobileIron, and Good come to mind.
    Look at the mistake these guys made.
    'Heartbleed-based BYOD hack' pwns insurance giant Aviva's iPhones ? The Register
    BES plus BB handsets (end to end) is the most secure bar none.
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    05-13-2015 05:31 PM
  4. canuckvoip's Avatar
    Schadenfreude... and Apple users have been putting up with ordure of this same nature about Apple from enthusiasts of that particular platform.
    Competition, and choice are good and healthy.
    05-13-2015 05:34 PM
  5. xtremeled's Avatar
    There will never be a hybrid device of Apple and Blackberry...even if Apple DID buy out the company. What you'd end up getting is features based on patents Blackberry had that Apple wanted.
    Like The HUB and the LED notifications? That would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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    05-13-2015 06:13 PM
  6. xtremeled's Avatar
    Plus email where you can send multiple files that are not pictures and or video.
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    05-13-2015 07:23 PM
  7. franknasty's Avatar
    Blackberry and android forever the best

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    05-13-2015 07:29 PM
  8. HankAZ's Avatar
    Blackberry and android forever the best

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    Yet here you are. Interested in Apple or just trolling?
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    05-13-2015 07:40 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I enjoy Blackberry loyalists who pretend the iPhone has no business in enterprise because of security...I mean they offer the iPhone (as well as a slew of other devices) to federal LEO's and send out the security attachment with them when you sign for yours for duty (I still have it too from the last period I was with the feds... https://www.apple.com/business/docs/...rity_Guide.pdf )

    Now I'm not one who feels its a good thing Blackberry is circling the drain...I like competition personally because competition never hurts the consumer and pushes the manufacturers to further develop and to do it more frequently. That said, Blackberry isn't really competition anymore, they are simply a dying choice. Let's not try and pretend like their once glorious security clout is something that keeps them relevant in the consumer world (which is where the money is, period).
    05-13-2015 07:56 PM
  10. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    I just read it, and at this point, it is still only a rumor. Having said that, if Apple were to acquire Blackberry, I doubt their focus would be on hardware, but rather the enterprise and patent aspect as mentioned in the article. Furthermore, what would happen to the Crackberry site and forum?.....
    They would move over to Android Central, and still spew FUD about Apple. They would also continue to complain, make excuses, and post other childish rigmarole. They'd fit right in perfectly.

    They'd all come over here... shudder...
    No, we are sheep and blindly follow the herd. AC.

    I will never understand why some people revel in the hopes that a large and important company dies, along with the many thousands of people losing their jobs and income.
    No one is reveling that they die. Important company ? Not any more. The many thousands have already lost their jobs and moved on. QNX will survive.

    As far as your security posts, how does that effect me, the average consumer. I have a Q10, but I'm not on BES. What security benefits do I get ? People want more than phone calls, texting, and emails. Heck, the only way I could buy and sell securities with my Q10 was to turn on hotspot and use my iPad. Well I fixed that problem.
    05-13-2015 09:09 PM
  11. canuckvoip's Avatar
    They would move over to Android Central, and still spew FUD about Apple. They would also continue to complain, make excuses, and post other childish rigmarole. They'd fit right in perfectly.



    No, we are sheep and blindly follow the herd. AC.



    No one is reveling that they die. Important company ? Not any more. The many thousands have already lost their jobs and moved on. QNX will survive.

    As far as your security posts, how does that effect me, the average consumer. I have a Q10, but I'm not on BES. What security benefits do I get ? People want more than phone calls, texting, and emails. Heck, the only way I could buy and sell securities with my Q10 was to turn on hotspot and use my iPad. Well I fixed that problem.
    The benefits are that you wouldn't have an iCloud to get hacked. You would use BBM which is more secure because it goes through BB's servers. You would have fewer apps tracking your every move. You wouldn't have your fingerprints on file, or your health records. People want what they want, I get it. But all the people that tell you "they have nothing to hide" are giving everything away, willingly, foolishly.
    05-14-2015 02:37 AM
  12. canuckvoip's Avatar
    I enjoy Blackberry loyalists who pretend the iPhone has no business in enterprise because of security...I mean they offer the iPhone (as well as a slew of other devices) to federal LEO's and send out the security attachment with them when you sign for yours for duty (I still have it too from the last period I was with the feds... https://www.apple.com/business/docs/...rity_Guide.pdf )

    Now I'm not one who feels its a good thing Blackberry is circling the drain...I like competition personally because competition never hurts the consumer and pushes the manufacturers to further develop and to do it more frequently. That said, Blackberry isn't really competition anymore, they are simply a dying choice. Let's not try and pretend like their once glorious security clout is something that keeps them relevant in the consumer world (which is where the money is, period).
    iOS devices have their place. Nobody denies that. But they need to be secured properly, and right now BES is the clear choice. Nothing else comes close. iPhone would be 10 times better with a file system, expandable memory, an email and attachment system that wasn't from 2006, and real multitasking, you know... for work.
    BlackBerry is not circling the drain. Things admittedly were bad, but no more. They are profitable again, and things are getting better. Nobody denies that it was bleak, but that was then, and this is now. Chen has repeatedly stated that he's going after corp first. Not ONLY... just first. And as stated before, if you don't think your own personal security is important, then I feel scared/sad for you.
    Ever heard of Dropout Jeep? Probably not... or you've ignored it thinking it is BS...
    But it's not.
    The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone
    05-14-2015 02:53 AM
  13. FFR's Avatar
    iOS devices have their place. Nobody denies that. But they need to be secured properly, and right now BES is the clear choice. Nothing else comes close. iPhone would be 10 times better with a file system, expandable memory, an email and attachment system that wasn't from 2006, and real multitasking, you know... for work.
    BlackBerry is not circling the drain. Things admittedly were bad, but no more. They are profitable again, and things are getting better. Nobody denies that it was bleak, but that was then, and this is now. Chen has repeatedly stated that he's going after corp first. Not ONLY... just first. And as stated before, if you don't think your own personal security is important, then I feel scared/sad for you.
    Ever heard of Dropout Jeep? Probably not... or you've ignored it thinking it is BS...
    But it's not.
    The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone


    Wow....
    I bet you bought a blackberry passport at full price.
    Smh.


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    05-14-2015 03:17 AM
  14. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    And as stated before, if you don't think your own personal security is important, then I feel scared/sad for you.
    Even I don't give a sh|t about what the NSA can find on my phone. Why are you so concerned about it? Other than you feeling compelled to defend Blackberry at every turn you can.
    05-14-2015 03:18 AM
  15. FFR's Avatar
    I will never understand why some people revel in the hopes that a large and important company dies, along with the many thousands of people losing their jobs and income.
    Passing the buck?
    I have no sympathies for anyone working at blackberry that finds themselves without a job once the company shutters their handset division. Blame management, not iPhone users.

    The writing has been on the wall for years. They chose to ignore it.

    Black berry Important?
    Hahahaha, thanks for the laugh.









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    05-14-2015 03:27 AM
  16. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Ha.....the BlackBerry faithful proselytising the dogma of their faith.....how endearing.....
    Personally, I turned my back on BlackBerry for my personal device and I am deeply deeply deeply sorry that it took me so long. Between the insults, haranguing, libelous personal attacks of some of the faithful and the utter collapse of a company I once loved, I find that Apple offers me more than I lack. A file system? Dropbox. iCloud. Box. One Drive. Mail attachments? Got an app that does that. Blinky blinkity blinking blink light? Nah.....don't need it. Hub? A hot mess of an eyesore. BBM? Spam central.
    For work, my company offers iPhones. And it's a federal agency within the secure community. Let's face it....top secret communications *CANNOT* by regulation be sent via standard issue BlackBerry devices. Sensitive, sure. Top secret? Ha. Try that one. Therefore an iPhone on Good or Mobile Iron is *secure enough* (familiarise yourself with that concept) for the vast majority of government agencies. Does Obama carry a BlackBerry? Yup. BBOS7 99xx device modified for his needs. Do the rank and file government employee get one as well? Nah. We had 9930s that the whole of my agency gleefully dumped in favour of SGS5 and iPhone 6. I chose the SGS5 due to the user replaceable battery but I'll switch to an iPhone when my upgrade comes up in November.
    Fact is the iPhone is eating BlackBerry's lunch in Enterprise. For every Indian law agency with 60 employees that upgrades to BB10 with BES 10, there is an agency like mine with 6K employees that moves AWAY from BlackBerry.
    Fact is that neither BES10 nor BES12 has gained traction with agencies that were on BES5. Fact is that the attrition of Blackberry in the U.S. federal government is accelerating and not decelerating.
    And before anyone asks, no I won't give specifics. I value my job more than to give information on a forum because some BlackBerry acolyte asked.
    I once wanted Apple to buy BlackBerry. That was when I still loved BlackBerry and wanted to continue to use their products. Now???? Meh. Would I have loved my Q10 running iOS? You betcha. Would I have loved iOS 8 on my 150 buck Quasimodo so that I would not have to deal with the flickering screen and the atrocious camera? Oh yeah. But meh. Really. My love for Blackberry has waned to just contempt for their uninspiring "solution" to the atrocious app gap, their utter inability to execute, and their penchant for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. The disastrous launch of BB10 and every device since has killed it for me.


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    05-14-2015 08:26 AM
  17. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    The benefits are that you wouldn't have an iCloud to get hacked. You would use BBM which is more secure because it goes through BB's servers. You would have fewer apps tracking your every move. You wouldn't have your fingerprints on file, or your health records. People want what they want, I get it. But all the people that tell you "they have nothing to hide" are giving everything away, willingly, foolishly.
    Do you mean the iCloud that adds functionality that BB can't come close to having ? I'd hardly. call someone logging into your iCloud account using your name as a password being hacked. That's poor security practices by the user. Don't cut off features to me because someone else is stupid.. The others used common passwords. Apple now limits the number of tries and sends you an email when someone longs in on a different device.

    There have been countless stories of the DEA and other LE agencies crying because they are not able to track iMessages. Six month waits for Apple to unlock iPhones for them.

    So again, other than reducing functionality for people, how does a BB not on BES help me ??? Consumer security died with the killing of BIS.
    05-14-2015 08:52 AM
  18. FFR's Avatar
    Ha.....the BlackBerry faithful proselytising the dogma of their faith.....how endearing.....
    Personally, I turned my back on BlackBerry for my personal device and I am deeply deeply deeply sorry that it took me so long. Between the insults, haranguing, libelous personal attacks of some of the faithful and the utter collapse of a company I once loved, I find that Apple offers me more than I lack. A file system? Dropbox. iCloud. Box. One Drive. Mail attachments? Got an app that does that. Blinky blinkity blinking blink light? Nah.....don't need it. Hub? A hot mess of an eyesore. BBM? Spam central.
    For work, my company offers iPhones. And it's a federal agency within the secure community. Let's face it....top secret communications *CANNOT* by regulation be sent via standard issue BlackBerry devices. Sensitive, sure. Top secret? Ha. Try that one. Therefore an iPhone on Good or Mobile Iron is *secure enough* (familiarise yourself with that concept) for the vast majority of government agencies. Does Obama carry a BlackBerry? Yup. BBOS7 99xx device modified for his needs. Do the rank and file government employee get one as well? Nah. We had 9930s that the whole of my agency gleefully dumped in favour of SGS5 and iPhone 6. I chose the SGS5 due to the user replaceable battery but I'll switch to an iPhone when my upgrade comes up in November.
    Fact is the iPhone is eating BlackBerry's lunch in Enterprise. For every Indian law agency with 60 employees that upgrades to BB10 with BES 10, there is an agency like mine with 6K employees that moves AWAY from BlackBerry.
    Fact is that neither BES10 nor BES12 has gained traction with agencies that were on BES5. Fact is that the attrition of Blackberry in the U.S. federal government is accelerating and not decelerating.
    And before anyone asks, no I won't give specifics. I value my job more than to give information on a forum because some BlackBerry acolyte asked.
    I once wanted Apple to buy BlackBerry. That was when I still loved BlackBerry and wanted to continue to use their products. Now???? Meh. Would I have loved my Q10 running iOS? You betcha. Would I have loved iOS 8 on my 150 buck Quasimodo so that I would not have to deal with the flickering screen and the atrocious camera? Oh yeah. But meh. Really. My love for Blackberry has waned to just contempt for their uninspiring "solution" to the atrocious app gap, their utter inability to execute, and their penchant for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. The disastrous launch of BB10 and every device since has killed it for me.


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    Well said qb.

    Although I prefer apples implementation of the little red dot.








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    05-14-2015 08:56 AM
  19. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Well said qb.

    Although I prefer apples implementation of the little red dot.


    https://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...fb68fadb7a.jpg





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    Oooooooo envious.

    I've saved up to buy my 6s Plus outright. I've got to save for my black stainless steel  Watch.

    Enjoy yours!!!!


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    05-14-2015 09:10 AM
  20. mikeo007's Avatar
    Blackberry has almost nothing of value to Apple. Certainly nothing worth buying them out over.
    IMO the only part of Blackberry that has any value at this point is their MDM business and some of their smaller acquisitions that are functioning more or less independent of the larger company.

    Apple is not in the MDM business, and would be wise to stay away from it.
    Apple hasn't shown any interest in getting into to industrial machinery, making QNX worthless to them.
    BB handsets are losing money and are unpopular.
    Their IP is generally not fully fleshed out, badly implemented, or just stuff that the majority of people don't want.
    They've lost many of their high profile employees that might have actually fit in with Apple.
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    05-14-2015 09:14 AM
  21. FFR's Avatar
    Oooooooo envious.

    I've saved up to buy my 6s Plus outright. I've got to save for my black stainless steel  Watch.

    Enjoy yours!!!!


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    I have no doubt you will pick one up soon enough. However, I don't know why, but I have feeling you will be sporting an apple watch long before the the 6s comments leak online.

    Simply put, the Apple watch is amazing. My space black should be arriving sometime in the next two weeks, can't wait.

    On another note how is your puppy doing?




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    05-14-2015 09:29 AM
  22. HankAZ's Avatar
    Ha.....the BlackBerry faithful proselytising the dogma of their faith.....how endearing.....
    Personally, I turned my back on BlackBerry for my personal device and I am deeply deeply deeply sorry that it took me so long. Between the insults, haranguing, libelous personal attacks of some of the faithful and the utter collapse of a company I once loved, I find that Apple offers me more than I lack. A file system? Dropbox. iCloud. Box. One Drive. Mail attachments? Got an app that does that. Blinky blinkity blinking blink light? Nah.....don't need it. Hub? A hot mess of an eyesore. BBM? Spam central.
    For work, my company offers iPhones. And it's a federal agency within the secure community. Let's face it....top secret communications *CANNOT* by regulation be sent via standard issue BlackBerry devices. Sensitive, sure. Top secret? Ha. Try that one. Therefore an iPhone on Good or Mobile Iron is *secure enough* (familiarise yourself with that concept) for the vast majority of government agencies. Does Obama carry a BlackBerry? Yup. BBOS7 99xx device modified for his needs. Do the rank and file government employee get one as well? Nah. We had 9930s that the whole of my agency gleefully dumped in favour of SGS5 and iPhone 6. I chose the SGS5 due to the user replaceable battery but I'll switch to an iPhone when my upgrade comes up in November.
    Fact is the iPhone is eating BlackBerry's lunch in Enterprise. For every Indian law agency with 60 employees that upgrades to BB10 with BES 10, there is an agency like mine with 6K employees that moves AWAY from BlackBerry.
    Fact is that neither BES10 nor BES12 has gained traction with agencies that were on BES5. Fact is that the attrition of Blackberry in the U.S. federal government is accelerating and not decelerating.
    And before anyone asks, no I won't give specifics. I value my job more than to give information on a forum because some BlackBerry acolyte asked.
    I once wanted Apple to buy BlackBerry. That was when I still loved BlackBerry and wanted to continue to use their products. Now???? Meh. Would I have loved my Q10 running iOS? You betcha. Would I have loved iOS 8 on my 150 buck Quasimodo so that I would not have to deal with the flickering screen and the atrocious camera? Oh yeah. But meh. Really. My love for Blackberry has waned to just contempt for their uninspiring "solution" to the atrocious app gap, their utter inability to execute, and their penchant for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. The disastrous launch of BB10 and every device since has killed it for me.


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    Great post, Lil. I'm sure you lost the blackberry crowd with the big words and sound logic.
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    05-14-2015 09:33 AM
  23. keity's Avatar
    Didn't heard about this matter.
    05-14-2015 09:41 AM
  24. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Great post, Lil. I'm sure you lost the blackberry crowd with the big words and sound logic.
    Baby I lost the BlackBerry crowd when the blackberry flavoured KoolAid ran out. As did millions of others.

    And I haven't celebrated a loss with more gusto than that loss.


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    05-14-2015 09:43 AM
  25. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I have no doubt you will pick one up soon enough. However, I don't know why, but I have feeling you will be sporting an apple watch long before the the 6s comments leak online.

    Simply put, the Apple watch is amazing. My space black should be arriving sometime in the next two weeks, can't wait.

    On another note how is your puppy doing?




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    Well I wanted to buy the iPhone outright so my savings were going to the Plus in September. And I want the black so it's going to take me a wee bit of time to save for that.

    And the puppy is a total love. Except she's a hurricane. Hurricane Emma. She thinks mud is grand.
    Apple and Blackberry, as one?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1431611128.977210.jpg



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