1. kenzmom's Avatar
    I want to switch back to an IPhone 6, but am in 2 year contract with ATT, thoughts. I hate the android
    04-21-2015 12:18 PM
  2. Bigeric23's Avatar
    If you have anyone else on your plan, you can use their upgrade eligibility. Or . . . you can do like I did (2 months with a brand-new LG G3) and spend the extra money to break the contract and get the iPhone. It has been worth ever penny.
    04-21-2015 12:29 PM
  3. sydneycooper1979's Avatar
    You could always see if someone wants to trade on Craigslist--just be careful. Or you could sell it and pay the difference for the iPhone.


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    04-21-2015 12:30 PM
  4. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I want to switch back to an IPhone 6, but am in 2 year contract with ATT, thoughts. I hate the android
    Check AT&T's Next program. It might, or might not, work for you.

    Go to your account and check upgrade eligibility. Depending how long you've been on your contract you might be able to get a phone on Next and pay it in 12, 18, or 24 months.

    Sent from my gorgeous sexy white BEAST of a Note 4 ❤
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    04-21-2015 01:14 PM
  5. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    If you have anyone else on your plan, you can use their upgrade eligibility. Or . . . you can do like I did (2 months with a brand-new LG G3) and spend the extra money to break the contract and get the iPhone. It has been worth ever penny.
    My sister in law got a new LG G3 and they just had an OS update from KitKat to Lollipop and it was horrible. Everyone is doing a Factory Reset. LOL


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5. ☮
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    04-21-2015 01:21 PM
  6. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    There is no such phone as a Samsung 5s.

    You're either talking about an iPhone 5s or a Galaxy S5.
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    04-23-2015 02:23 AM
  7. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    My sister in law got a new LG G3 and they just had an OS update from KitKat to Lollipop and it was horrible. Everyone is doing a Factory Reset. LOL


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5. ☮
    Sounds like all the people updating to iOS 8.3.
    04-23-2015 02:24 AM
  8. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Sounds like all the people updating to iOS 8.3.
    Hardly. Not *all* people updating to 8.3 had trouble.






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    04-23-2015 08:32 AM
  9. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    Hardly. Not *all* people updating to 8.3 had trouble.






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    Enough to make headlines.

    But then that's no different than every other iOS release. My wifi doesn't work, my battery is draining, it's like Groundhog Day.


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    04-23-2015 08:37 AM
  10. qbnkelt's Avatar
    My sister in law got a new LG G3 and they just had an OS update from KitKat to Lollipop and it was horrible. Everyone is doing a Factory Reset. LOL


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5. ☮
    Lollipop seriously caused problems with my SGS5's integration with Good.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    04-23-2015 08:37 AM
  11. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Enough to make headlines.

    But then that's no different than every other iOS release. My wifi doesn't work, my battery is draining, it's like Groundhog Day.


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    And so you believe everything that is a headline?

    I've had no issues with any iOS release since 2009. No wifi problems. Battery improved on 8.3 and I regularly get over one day.

    As far as draining battery, Lollipop caused drain on my Note 4. GPS is dodgy. Frequent freezing requiring reboots. Took a factory reset. I've NEVER needed to do a factory reset on ANY iPhone. Or iPad. Or iPod.

    You seem to love hyperbole. Let's bring the discussion back to reality, 'kay?!!?


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    04-23-2015 08:44 AM
  12. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    And so you believe everything that is a headline?

    I've had no issues with any iOS release since 2009. No wifi problems. Battery improved on 8.3 and I regularly get over one day.

    As far as draining battery, Lollipop caused drain on my Note 4. GPS is dodgy. Frequent freezing requiring reboots. Took a factory reset. I've NEVER needed to do a factory reset on ANY iPhone. Or iPad. Or iPod.

    You seem to love hyperbole. Let's bring the discussion back to reality, 'kay?!!?


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    Yea. I've heard all this in Macrumors. Somehow fanboys never have problems, but go check the official Apple forums and tell me it isn't an issue with every iOS release.

    It's to the point where I turn updates off. I don't update my iOS devices unless I'm having an issue. There's nothing on iOS 8.3 that I want. No point in risking it.

    And BTW, headlines end up being headlines from the thousands of people inundating the forums complaining about the same issue. Otherwise it wouldn't be a headline.


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    04-23-2015 08:49 AM
  13. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Enough to make headlines.

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    Have you ever noticed how the "headline" rarely match the actual contents of the story itself? Scare tactics in association with a respected name like Apple around the time of an important product launch sells newspapers and causes people to watch news shows. The reporters rarely mention that the problems are often caused by the user. For example, opting not to backup precious photos before doing a restore........Anyway, for the masses, iOS 8.3 is rock solid, in my opinion.
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    04-23-2015 08:51 AM
  14. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Yea. I've heard all this in Macrumors. Somehow fanboys never have problems, but go check the official Apple forums and tell me it isn't an issue with every iOS release.

    It's to the point where I turn updates off. I don't update my iOS devices unless I'm having an issue. There's nothing on iOS 8.3 that I want. No point in risking it.


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    I don't go by rumours. If I did go by rumours I would believe in Bigfoot, Chupacabras, ET, and the Tooth Fairy.

    As far as being a fanboy, I currently use all four major platforms and I give my experiences. I don't seek out issues in forums or headlines. If my iPhone were not flawless I would not be using it and I would choose any of my other three phones. Life is too short to put up with flawed tech when a better solution is readily available.

    One would wonder why you would use an iPhone given all the headlines and all the issues reported on official Apple forums. So...why???!


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    04-23-2015 08:55 AM
  15. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    Have you ever noticed how the "headline" rarely match the actual contents of the story itself? Scare tactics in association with a respected name like Apple around the time of an important product launch sells newspapers and causes people to watch news shows. The reporters rarely mention that the problems are often caused by the user. For example, opting not to backup precious photos before doing a restore........Anyway, for the masses, iOS 8.3 is rock solid, in my opinion.
    Headlines don't matter. Check the official apple forums. Real people real problems. Have a read.

    I don't know why you're so focused on the word "headline".

    I don't care about your particular anecdotes. I'm not a newbie when it comes to iOS. And from my own hell updates with the iOS game, that made my iPhone 4s unusable and killed my battery, which also made headlines and was even an issue apple acknowledged but never really fixed, I am NEVER updating an iOS device for as long as I own it.

    From my own experience.

    I only updated my iPad Air 2 a few weeks after purchasing it because there was a known crash issue that I and many were experiencing and after doing careful research that 8.1.2 actually did fix the issue and didn't create new ones, I updated. And it will stay in 8.1.2 forever.


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    04-23-2015 08:57 AM
  16. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    I don't go by rumours. If I did go by rumours I would believe in Bigfoot, Chupacabras, ET, and the Tooth Fairy.

    As far as being a fanboy, I currently use all four major platforms and I give my experiences. I don't seek out issues in forums or headlines. If my iPhone were not flawless I would not be using it and I would choose any of my other three phones. Life is too short to put up with flawed tech when a better solution is readily available.

    One would wonder why you would use an iPhone given all the headlines and all the issues reported on official Apple forums. So...why???!


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    Oh my goodness. You guys aren't for real.

    I told you I'm talking about real people from the official apple.com discussion forums. You know, where you log in with your Apple ID and post your issues? That one. It is inundated to the brim with iOS 8.3 issues about wifi and battery problems.

    And I'm adding that it is the same with every iOS release and if you don't believe it, go there and search.

    It isn't rumor. Real users. Real issues. Look it up.

    I bought an iPhone 5s because it is the only good small phone anyone sells at this time.

    I don't expect you to consider what I just said. Just look at your signature.

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    04-23-2015 08:59 AM
  17. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Headlines don't matter. Check the forums. Real people real problems.

    I don't know why you're so focused on the word "headline".

    I don't care about your particular anecdotes. I'm not a newbie when it comes to iOS. And from my own hell updates with the iOS game, that made my iPhone 4s unusable and killed my battery, which also made headlines and was even an issue apple acknowledged but never really fixed, I am NEVER updating an iOS device for as long as I own it.

    From my own experience.

    I only updated my iPad Air 2 a few weeks after purchasing it because there was a known crash issue that I and many were experiencing and after doing careful research that 8.1.2 actually did fix the issue and didn't create new ones, I updated. And it will stay in 8.1.2 forever.


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    Where in my reply did I say that no one had problems? I said for the masses, iOS 8.3 is rock solid, in my opinion, and I stick by my statement. In regard to the forum with real people and real problems, you do realize that those of us who frequent forums such as this, are minuscule in comparison to those that do not. Finally, in regard to "headlines", it was YOU who brought it up. I merely responded to it.

    What you do with your iOS device is your business. If you don't trust any of the latest updates, that's your business. If you refuse to install any updates, that's your business. I'm thankful that I've not run into problems that you've encountered with your iOS devices. I will update mine every time there's an available update, but that's my choice. Anyway, I didn't mean to get you all riled up. Take care, and have a great day...
    04-23-2015 09:07 AM
  18. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    Where in my reply did I say that no one had problems? I said for the masses, iOS 8.3 is rock solid, in my opinion, and I stick by my statement. In regard to the forum with real people and real problems, you do realize that those of us who frequent forums such as this, are minuscule in comparison to those that do not. Finally, in regard to "headlines", it was YOU who brought it up. I merely responded to it.

    What you do with your iOS device is your business. If you don't trust any of the latest updates, that's your business. If you refuse to install any updates, that's your business. I'm thankful that I've not run into problems that you've encountered with your iOS devices. I will update mine every time there's an available update, but that's my choice. Anyway, I didn't mean to get you all riled up. Take care, and have a great day...
    If the update doesn't concern me, there's no need to update. All it can do is cause potential problems.

    If it's not broken don't fix it.

    It is because of those people (that tiny minority you're talking about) that Apple releases updates like iOS 8.3. From people complaining.

    If it was true that the "masses" never have any problems, then we would hardly have any updates.

    You do realize 8.3 is mostly fixing problems right? If the masses aren't having any problems then why release 8.3 with a mile long list of fixes?

    You're dreaming.

    You're right. People who frequent forums are a tiny minority. Yet you have thousands of posts from people complaining about iOS updates killing their phones.

    Can you imagine if there are thousands complaining how many there are with issues that never post?

    I think I speak for the majority of iOS users when I say that the days (Forstall days) of trusting iOS updates blindly are over.

    The responsible thing would be to advise people when it comes to iOS updates is to proceed with caution.

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    04-23-2015 09:11 AM
  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    If the update doesn't concern me, there's no need to update. All it can do is cause potential problems.

    If it's not broken don't fix it.

    It is because of those people (that tiny minority you're talking about) that Apple releases updates like iOS 8.3. From people complaining.

    If it was true that the "masses" never have any problems, then we would hardly have any updates.

    You do realize 8.3 is mostly fixing problems right? If the masses aren't having any problems then why release 8.3 with a mile long list of fixes?

    You're dreaming.


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    Yes, I do, but that doesn't mean that everyone was experiencing the problems. For example, some people were experiencing Bluetooth and Wi-Fi issues with the previous versions. I was not one of them. Some complained of battery-related issues. Not me. Some people claimed that they lost all of their data, and yet, all of mine are still intact. Your experience has been negative whereas mine have been positive, and no, I'm not dreaming...
    04-23-2015 09:20 AM
  20. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Oh my goodness. You guys aren't for real.

    I told you I'm talking about real people from the official apple.com discussion forums. You know, where you log in with your Apple ID and post your issues? That one. It is inundated to the brim with iOS 8.3 issues about wifi and battery problems.

    And I'm adding that it is the same with every iOS release and if you don't believe it, go there and search.

    It isn't rumor. Real users. Real issues. Look it up.

    I bought an iPhone 5s because it is the only good small phone anyone sells at this time.

    I don't expect you to consider what I just said. Just look at your signature.

    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    OK.

    Just WHAT is wrong with my signature????? What does that have to do with the price of tea? Is it your assertion that I can't think objectively because I love the device I use?

    As far as the rest, why would I go to an Apple forum to look for drama? I can find anything on the web for any position I want to take. So what? Reality is that I have not had one single issue with any of my iOS products which is *why* I use them. Why do you considering what's being said on forums and what's on headlines?

    You know what's on headlines? Apple just had the most successful quarter in history. They're even over Exxon. How's that for a headline. And how does that relate to how I used device? NOT ONE IOTA. Because headlines and forums and rumours don't impact the performance of my device.

    I don't go seeking headlines or validating my actions on web forums. I get what works for me. Finito. And I have not had one single issue with an iOS device. And guess what.....given the numbers of people buying iPhones, seems like they are happy too.

    That's a headline.


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    Last edited by qbnkelt; 04-23-2015 at 11:00 AM.
    04-23-2015 10:42 AM
  21. Evilguppy's Avatar
    The only real issue I've ever had with Apple updates was IOS7, and that one was a doozie on both iPad and iPhone, for me.
    However since then, Apple has addressed the issues and fixed the problems.
    I have had ZERO issue on my iPhone 6 Plus following any of the IOS8 updates, and I only had a minor problem related to server crowding with my iPad Air 2, other than that, everything has been smooth as silk.

    But Android? Aaaaaaaaah, very predictable: no matter what, it never fails:
    I'd start with a device that worked really well, fell in love with it and then BAM! Update and everything would fall apart I epic fashion.
    And it's not just me, it happened to a friend of mine yesterday.

    So call me a fan girl if you must, I'm overjoyed to have come back to Apple, I love my Apple devices, they just work.
    I'm even considering stealing kbnkelt's signature. Hehe.
    04-23-2015 11:45 AM
  22. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I'm even considering stealing kbnkelt's signature. Hehe.
    LOL!!! Go ahead, love!!! It enrages Apple haters and my anti-fans. I actually know of a group who were planning to come to iMore with signatures similar to mine extolling the wonders of their platform....strangely it didn't happen, but they had planned to.
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    04-23-2015 11:52 AM
  23. iEd's Avatar
    LOL!!! Go ahead, love!!! It enrages Apple haters and my anti-fans. I actually know of a group who were planning to come to iMore with signatures similar to mine extolling the wonders of their platform....strangely it didn't happen, but they had planned to.
    I like your sig.


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    04-23-2015 11:58 AM
  24. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Simpletons seem to have a hard time understanding the concept of "When you do something right, people won't realize you've done anything at all."

    When a tiny little sample size of people report an "issue", you'll be able to find it online...and then people like ajarnfalang will pretend like this group of people represents a legitimate number of consumers, when that is almost NEVER true even in the slightest.

    You could go online and find thousands of people who think elvis is alive in the body of their hamster and clamor on and on about it on internet forums, blogs and other various types of communities...and then you'll have people like ajarnfalang who buy into it like gospel, not realizing how asinine they look defending such a stance.
    04-23-2015 12:00 PM
  25. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I like your sig.


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    It was the first thing I did on Tapatalk. And oh lordy lord lordy does it ever get the trolls' dander up!!!!
    04-23-2015 12:07 PM
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