1. HankAZ's Avatar
    Tried to respond to some comments on here, but for some reason they are bein blocked. Is "BlackBerry" a dirty word here?
    It is in my world. No thanks. BB jumped the shark years ago. You can't run fast enough to give one of those things.
    10-05-2014 12:25 AM
  2. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Not sure what your are on about?
    1) my Z10 & now Z 30 have never had rebooting issues
    My Z10 rebooted constantly on 10.0. It stopped for s while after 10.1. However, it began again after a few months. This rebooting issue is well documented in Crackberry. I never got a Z30 because it was never launched on AT&T.
    2) double letter typing? Never had this issue either.
    It happened to my Q10 and it is s well documented issue on Crackberry.
    3) no ecosystem? What, you mean like being locked into Apple? Rofl
    No native cloud services and a nearly abandoned BBW, an abandoned tablet, no desktop integration, a dysfunctional desktop manager, no media family sharing manager.
    4) OS updates? Mine have been available OTA as soon as released by Blackberry, I don't load leaks, no need as I am patient enough to wait for official release. Although good that the option is there, can you do that with an Apple that isn't jail broken?
    OS updates take months to come through the carriers. The only option to resolve problems like bricking, nuking, and rebooting is to get either leaked OSs or official OSs from other carriers which means a desktop install. There is no uniformity of OS so it is a search for what may or may not resolve a specific OS problem, often finding that while one problem is fixed another takes its place.
    5) contact list duplicating? Maybe for some but I only sync with my hotmail account, so no issues here.
    It is a constant issue which I've dealt with on both my Q10 and my Z10 and is also well documented on Crackberry.
    6) unsupported apps? If you are referring to Amazon App Store, is it not supported? Great to have an additional App Store for those that require it, personally, I stick with native Blackberry apps.
    Android apps are available for Blackberry in the Amazon Appstore and the vast majority are not optimised for BlackBerry devices. Additionally, I have not read of an official statement from Android developers or Google that they will support the apps in the Amazon Appstore so those who load them find, as I did, that they are laggy, old versions of those that are in the Play Store. Additionally Google Play Services are not supported for BlackBerry. Additionally, in view of old, buggy, laggy Amazon AppStore apps, users resort to lifting APKs to load on Blackberry devices, also unsupported by Android devs or Google.
    Seems to me you have given Blackberry the flick! But sincerely hope you are happy with your new phone, personally I can't wait to get my hands on the Passport!
    I have in fact given up on BlackBerry. It is unfortunate because I really loved my Q10. However, I loaded 10.3 and I hate the UI. Additionally, while I might overlook the UI, Blackberry is now actively promoting Android apps. I see no reason to buy one platform only to run buggy, old, unsupported, unoptimised apps from another. I use Android apps on an Android device supporting Google Play services and with full dev support. I respect devs too much to lift their apps to use them in a manner inconsistent with their terms.
    Enjoy your Passport.
    I will enjoy my iPhone 6, my Lumia 1520, and the upcoming Note 4.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    10-05-2014 08:02 AM
  3. Vic Rivera's Avatar
    This whole bend gate is really really annoying. You really got to be placing stress on that phone or any other phone to damage it.

    Did you see how the hands were shaking when he or others were bending it. That is a lot of force and if you are placing that much force on your phone, then you should stick to a beeper or landline.

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    10-05-2014 10:34 AM
  4. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Of course. But the fanbois need something. So in the absence of substance they create drama and use hyperbole. And congratulate themselves on their own perception of wit.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
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    10-05-2014 10:40 AM
  5. reeneebob's Avatar
    Tried to respond to some comments on here, but for some reason they are bein blocked. Is "BlackBerry" a dirty word here?
    Oh how adorable!

    You REALLY don't want to get into a phone contest with Q. I'd hazard she's owned more BBs than you.

    The issues you are pooh poohing are legit. My two bb10 devices did it. And I owned a storm, so don't even.
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    10-05-2014 11:22 AM
  6. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Well anyone who wishes to purchase a Passport, there's a sale. Half price.

    http://www.emirates247.com/news/gite...10-04-1.565108

    I won't be buying one though. I will stick with Apple products. They work for me regardless what negative perceptions there might be from other platforms' users.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
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    10-05-2014 11:58 AM
  7. Vic Rivera's Avatar
    Well anyone who wishes to purchase a Passport, there's a sale. Half price.

    http://www.emirates247.com/news/gite...10-04-1.565108

    I won't be buying one though. I will stick with Apple products. They work for me regardless what negative perceptions there might be from other platforms' users.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    I have a Z30. I'm looking at Apple products now. Doing some homework to see if it what I need.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    10-05-2014 12:06 PM
  8. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I have a Z30. I'm looking at Apple products now. Doing some homework to see if it what I need.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    Be brutally honest with yourself about what your needs and wants are. Then seek out the platform that offers it.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    10-05-2014 12:07 PM
  9. Vic Rivera's Avatar
    Be brutally honest with yourself about what your needs and wants are. Then seek out the platform that offers it.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    Exactly!!! Maybe you can help me out. I'm looking for something that works every time. Simple to use and apps that work.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    10-05-2014 12:28 PM
  10. OzDude's Avatar
    Well anyone who wishes to purchase a Passport, there's a sale. Half price.

    http://www.emirates247.com/news/gite...10-04-1.565108

    I won't be buying one though. I will stick with Apple products. They work for me regardless what negative perceptions there might be from other platforms' users.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    Thanks for the heads up! Please don't be offended with what I've said. Sorry to hear you have had so much trouble with your Blackberry, but I can honestly say I am totally happy with all the Blackberry phones that I've owned over the last 10 or so years and continue to be impressed with where they are going.
    You did mention the lack of desktop support? Have you seen Blend? Not only a desktop version, but compatible across ALL devices.
    As for the Playbook, I agree in part. Yes they did abandon it, but I believe it was the stepping stone to the current OS, BB10. I still use my Playbook daily, and in some ways believe it is as good if not better than my iPad.
    Like I said previously, each to their own, but it is great for competition that each manufacturer is constantly trying to beat/stay ahead of each other as this makes us, the consumer, the real winners here with some fantastic technology coming out these days.
    10-05-2014 07:12 PM
  11. OzDude's Avatar
    Oh how adorable!

    You REALLY don't want to get into a phone contest with Q. I'd hazard she's owned more BBs than you.

    The issues you are pooh poohing are legit. My two bb10 devices did it. And I owned a storm, so don't even.
    I wasn't turning this into a contest. Was simply stating that I've not come across the issues she stated. Yes there have been issues as reported on Crackberry, there are also many issues reported about the latest iPhones and software too but does this mean every iPhone user has a bendy phone that has been turned into an iPod due to loss of cellular network? No! But these issues are legit too. Apple is not exempt from issues either you know! As much as you want to believe, Apple is far from perfect.There are good and bad points to EVERY phone. However, I find that BlackBerry does best what I need to do.
    As for cloud services, I simply do not trust. I can access any files on my desktop from anywhere, easily and securely, and can save these directly to my 128gb SD card (yes Blackberry has this feature), so no need for cloud services here.
    Anyhow, I never came here to bash Apple or its users. Each to their own. Good luck to all of you, no matter what your phone of choice is. Great to see so many fantastic devices from ALL platforms giving us users a real choice what is best for us!!!
    10-05-2014 07:42 PM
  12. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Exactly!!! Maybe you can help me out. I'm looking for something that works every time. Simple to use and apps that work.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    You've just described my experience with the iPhone.

    Here is the thing....I'm all for tinkering with tech. EXCEPT that I expect my tech to work for me instead of me having to work for my tech. What I mean is this - I want a platform that, in a pinch, will allow me to do what I want with a minimum of effort. There may be times when I'm willing to tinker with a different OS or with themes, etc. But when I need my phone to work I want it to W O R K. Not be bricked, not have apps that may or may not work. Not have to attach my computer when I either want or need a new app. For these reasons, I find that my iPhone works best for me.

    The last time that I could trust my BlackBerry to be there with no fuss was my 9800. From the 9810 to the Q10, it's been a nervewracking experience of going for a device and finding it with a slow blinking red light and a white screen with a fatal error. JVM Error 517. Or nothing. Dead. Bricked. Nuked. Or have the device in my hand and have it suddenly reboot for no apparent reason while I'm using it.

    The iPhone works day one, every day, all day. Apps work day one, every day, all day. I can sync to iCloud wirelessly on Wifi every day OR I can choose to do a local backup to my computer via cable. All the apps are synced to my iPad. All media is synced. Home sharing, family sharing. THAT is a device working FOR me not me having to work for it.

    However, you may have other needs that are not the same as mine. Therefore I would not presume to suggest to you that you should get an iPhone. That's the reason I said that you need to be brutally honest with yourself on what you want and need out of a device. Then frequent the forums for that device and ask questions. Then play with the device at a store. I stalked the Apple Store in Pentagon City looooong before I bought my first iPhone. What drew me to my 3GS was the browser. And what keeps me coming back is that it's never, never, NOT ONCE let me down.
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    10-06-2014 09:56 AM
  13. HAWK's Avatar
    Am I the only person who thinks that U2 album was good? And I don't even like U2 but I like that first song
    10-06-2014 10:07 AM
  14. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Thanks for the heads up! Please don't be offended with what I've said. Sorry to hear you have had so much trouble with your Blackberry, but I can honestly say I am totally happy with all the Blackberry phones that I've owned over the last 10 or so years and continue to be impressed with where they are going.
    You did mention the lack of desktop support? Have you seen Blend? Not only a desktop version, but compatible across ALL devices.
    As for the Playbook, I agree in part. Yes they did abandon it, but I believe it was the stepping stone to the current OS, BB10. I still use my Playbook daily, and in some ways believe it is as good if not better than my iPad.
    Like I said previously, each to their own, but it is great for competition that each manufacturer is constantly trying to beat/stay ahead of each other as this makes us, the consumer, the real winners here with some fantastic technology coming out these days.
    I'm not offended because my device is not a personal attachment. It is something I choose to use and which I absolutely love to use because it works for me. However, I am not emotionally attached nor am I personally identified with it.

    The troubles I had with BlackBerry devices began with my 9810 and ended last Wednesday when I finally got so frustrated I actually looked for the hammer to smash the thing. I actually *looked* for the hammer. Had I found it I would have smashed it. Luckily I didn't find it, because that means that I can use it to partially fund my Note 4. So my relationship with BlackBerry which began with my first work issued device in January 2004 ended with a flash of rage born out of frustration in October 2014.
    Desktop manager, Link, is a disaster. And Blend is not an acceptable solution for me because it does nothing more than share files across devices and desktop, but the file remains on the device. So.....given BlackBerry's penchant for producing self destructing phones, my files would remain on the device. Not a solution with a bricked or rebooting device. And while I have not used a Passport, my history up to the Q10 is that BlackBerry devices brick with alarming frequency. Which is the reason I went through three personal 99xx series devices.
    As far as the Playbook, it was a beta product sold as a production device. I got one and got rid of it within two weeks and got myself an iPad. My iPad just got updated to iOS8. The Playbook never even saw 2.3. For the money spent, I feel BlackBerry misused early adopters.
    As far as your last sentence, I do agree with you. Competition is fantastic and for that reason I wish BlackBerry well, even if it will be a very long time indeed before I ever spend another penny in any on their products.

    For the record, here is my BlackBerry history:

    Beginning in 2004 they were work issued
    6210
    7210
    8703e - this phone marked the point when I got my personal BlackBerry, leaving my personal HTC Tilt which was my last Windows 6.5 phone
    8830
    8530
    9650
    9930

    Personal beginning in 2007
    8310
    9000
    9700 - this was my entry into iPhones. I still bought BlackBerry devices. But I was hooked on the browser.
    9800
    9810
    9860
    9900 - I bought two of these phones, both of which bricked. The device I turned to was my iPhone 4s which was still *WORKING* in my bag and which I used while I continued to attempt to use BlackBerry phones
    9930
    9370
    Z10 -By this point I was using my iPhones 5 and later 5s as my primary device but kept BlackBerry out of loyalty to a brand that was becoming increasingly more untrustworthy
    Q10 - Possibly my last BlackBerry for a very long while, if not my last BlackBerry ever
    Last edited by qbnkelt; 10-06-2014 at 10:27 AM.
    10-06-2014 10:10 AM
  15. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Am I the only person who thinks that U2 album was good? And I don't even like U2 but I like that first song
    I L O V E D the U2 album. The day when the whole brouhaha broke I commuted to work blasting everything from Boy to the new album. By the time I got to the Metro my throat was sore.
    10-06-2014 10:13 AM
  16. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I L O V E D the U2 album. The day when the whole brouhaha broke I commuted to work blasting everything from Boy to the new album. By the time I got to the Metro my throat was sore.
    I liked it too! I still can't believe people were offended by it. I get that some people don't like the music, but then just don't listen to it.
    10-06-2014 10:17 AM
  17. HAWK's Avatar
    I liked it too! I still can't believe people were offended by it. I get that some people don't like the music, but then just don't listen to it.
    There will always be something for people to complain about. It's just how it goes.
    10-06-2014 10:21 AM
  18. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I liked it too! I still can't believe people were offended by it. I get that some people don't like the music, but then just don't listen to it.
    Oh woman the whole "they VIOLATED my RIGHTS!!!!!!!!" drama was just side splitting to read. I've never seen so many drama queens in my life.
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    10-06-2014 10:22 AM
  19. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    5 years ago I cursed Bono, 'If I ever listen to this music again, may God strike me bald!', so can understand why some are very upset.
    10-06-2014 11:42 AM
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    10-06-2014 12:06 PM
  21. mikeo007's Avatar
    I wasn't turning this into a contest. Was simply stating that I've not come across the issues she stated. Yes there have been issues as reported on Crackberry, there are also many issues reported about the latest iPhones and software too but does this mean every iPhone user has a bendy phone that has been turned into an iPod due to loss of cellular network? No! But these issues are legit too. Apple is not exempt from issues either you know! As much as you want to believe, Apple is far from perfect.There are good and bad points to EVERY phone. However, I find that BlackBerry does best what I need to do.
    As for cloud services, I simply do not trust. I can access any files on my desktop from anywhere, easily and securely, and can save these directly to my 128gb SD card (yes Blackberry has this feature), so no need for cloud services here.
    Anyhow, I never came here to bash Apple or its users. Each to their own. Good luck to all of you, no matter what your phone of choice is. Great to see so many fantastic devices from ALL platforms giving us users a real choice what is best for us!!!
    Look champ, you gotta understand that outside the Crackberry world, phones aren't a religion. People have legitimate gripes with all different phones. Problem for Blackberry is that there are a lot more gripes and shortcomings with their offerings. You're acting like you're trying to defend a child or family member here. Newsflash: it's just a phone! And you're on a site where most users generally don't agree with your Blackberry POV. Get over it, you're not going to "convert" anyone to your cause here.
    10-06-2014 12:24 PM
  22. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Look champ, you gotta understand that outside the Crackberry world, phones aren't a religion. People have legitimate gripes with all different phones. Problem for Blackberry is that there are a lot more gripes and shortcomings with their offerings. You're acting like you're trying to defend a child or family member here. Newsflash: it's just a phone! And you're on a site where most users generally don't agree with your Blackberry POV. Get over it, you're not going to "convert" anyone to your cause here.
    Don't think they know anything about the world outside of Crackberry... Kinda like how the North Korean people don't really know anything about the outside world.
    Last edited by the_tech_eater; 10-06-2014 at 01:05 PM.
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    10-06-2014 12:35 PM
  23. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Honestly, I would rather take direct-to-phone updates rather than having to go through the carrier even if the carrier does screen these issues. I've gone through way too many phones that I needed to wait for much needed features introduced in an update that had yet to be tested by the carrier to want that ever again. We are very lucky to have this and these people are laughing out of jealousy that they have to wait 6 months - 1 year(depending on phone model and popularity) to get their updates, if they are lucky to get them at all.

    Bendgate? A bunch of <blank> not treating their electronics with the care and respect they should given the cost of such devices. I have no sympathy for their screw ups. If you want an indestructible phone, get an old Nokia and knock yourself out playing Snake. I honestly do not have any patience for those that are so jealous of Apple either and attack any way they can because they are so insecure. Not everyone likes the same things you do, people; get that through your biased brain. Google or Samsung isn't some benevolent being and Apple isn't the anti-christ. They are all corporations trying to take your money. In all honesty, which company do you think bends over backwards more for their customers?

    Don't want the U2 Album? Get it off your device. I've honestly never heard people whine and complain because a company gave them a free $15 dollar music album before. Who knew in this age of entitlement they would complain?

    As for live-stream? Take that up to the company that was broadcasting it, not Apple who contracted with them.

    People act like they've never seen a DNS attack. The servers were slammed by the horde. Millions of people pinged the website all at once. This happens with any server system but of course people threw a fit and wanted it NOW. They can't seem to understand what goes on in the background. I'm sure every other company(along with their users) would give their left <blank> to have the demand Apple gets and would see it as great news but because it didn't happen to their brand, they are jealous and bash.
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    10-06-2014 05:30 PM
  24. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Don't think they know anything about the world outside of Crackberry... Kinda like how the North Korean people don't really know anything about the outside world.
    OMG, I thought I was the only one who thought CrackBerry was like North Korea. The parallels are striking aren't they?
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    10-06-2014 05:31 PM
  25. Vic Rivera's Avatar
    Honestly, I would rather take direct-to-phone updates rather than having to go through the carrier even if the carrier does screen these issues. I've gone through way too many phones that I needed to wait for much needed features introduced in an update that had yet to be tested by the carrier to want that ever again. We are very lucky to have this and these people are laughing out of jealousy that they have to wait 6 months - 1 year(depending on phone model and popularity) to get their updates, if they are lucky to get them at all.

    Bendgate? A bunch of <blank> not treating their electronics with the care and respect they should given the cost of such devices. I have no sympathy for their screw ups. If you want an indestructible phone, get an old Nokia and knock yourself out playing Snake. I honestly do not have any patience for those that are so jealous of Apple either and attack any way they can because they are so insecure. Not everyone likes the same things you do, people; get that through your biased brain. Google or Samsung isn't some benevolent being and Apple isn't the anti-christ. They are all corporations trying to take your money. In all honesty, which company do you think bends over backwards more for their customers?

    Don't want the U2 Album? Get it off your device. I've honestly never heard people whine and complain because a company gave them a free $15 dollar music album before. Who knew in this age of entitlement they would complain?

    As for live-stream? Take that up to the company that was broadcasting it, not Apple who contracted with them.

    People act like they've never seen a DNS attack. The servers were slammed by the horde. Millions of people pinged the website all at once. This happens with any server system but of course people threw a fit and wanted it NOW. They can't seem to understand what goes on in the background. I'm sure every other company(along with their users) would give their left <blank> to have the demand Apple gets and would see it as great news but because it didn't happen to their brand, they are jealous and bash.
    AMEN, DAMN IT! Well said.

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    10-06-2014 05:50 PM
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