1. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Well, after much consideration, I may actually have to leave Windows Phone behind. With the addition of the virtual machine that aims to use Android apps on Windows RT and Windows Phone to close the app gap, I've lost a lot of love for Windows Phone. I'm not okay with Android quality apps mucking up my experience (Namely because of the drastic difference in user interface, not trying to start a debate about which phone has better apps, that could go on forever.) and I feel in doing so, they've eliminated a lot of the desire to build apps for Windows Phone. I mean, why build for Windows Phone if you could build for Android and have it run on Windows Phone? We wouldn't have our beautiful applications that we do today as a result and that ruins a lot of the point of Windows Phone for me.

    Through time, I've felt that Windows Phone was the best OS. I mean, there's no denying I believe from any party that Nokia builds some premium hardware and they've always kept the OS fluid and responsive, even on processors that were seriously outdated upon release. It's maintained one of the best keyboards throughout Mobile History and with the introduction of WP 8.1 has arguably the best. As far as the OS goes as a stand alone, I don't feel it can be beat but I don't want to see it mucked up so much with Android apps.

    So, at this point, I'm deciding between Android and iOS. Ultimately, it comes down to who has the best cards on the table with L and the new iOS version. Right now, I'm leaning towards iPhone becase I need high quality hardware but not so much so that I'm not to be swayed. I'll be taking a look at the LG G3 this Friday and I'll be waiting on the next big Motorola release. It's hard to find an Android OEM that's comparable to Nokia/RIM/Apple though so I'm hard pressed as to where to go from here.

    Anyway, it's largely unimportant to most but I just thought I'd admit my defeat. I'm still of the opinion that Samsung is the worst company ever but ultimately, they're not the whole OS.
    07-08-2014 09:17 PM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Well, whatever you opt you get, get it because it is what's best for you, and don't waste your time being concerned about what anyone else thinks about it...
    07-08-2014 09:21 PM
  3. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Well, whatever you opt you get, get it because it is what's best for you, and don't waste your time being concerned about what anyone else thinks about it...
    Haha... Windows Phone is what's best for me but I just can't deal with Android apps as substitutes and the fact that that'd virtually eliminate any reason to develop for Windows.
    07-08-2014 09:30 PM
  4. Evilguppy's Avatar
    I'm partial to my Blackberry Q10, but if my choice was between Apple and Android, I'd go with Apple.
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    07-08-2014 10:42 PM
  5. Flow39's Avatar
    Deciding on an OS can be a tough decision, but I have some basics of both Android and iOS that might help

    Android: I would recommend Android if you like huge amounts of customization and being able to tweak every little bit of the phone, and be in control of the whole thing. The app selection is pretty great, but there aren't as many quality apps in Google Play as the App Store. There are a huge range of devices to choose from with many manufacturers.

    iOS: If you prefer something that is easy to use with a great UI, and you don't really care to customize a lot, iOS is for you. The app selection is great, and the choices of devices are low, but that simplifies choosing between tons of phones. A lot of services are nice, such as iCloud and Find My iPhone, which simplify the technical stuff and allow you to just use your phone. As many Apple fans say,"It just works".

    I would choose Apple, but that's just me haha

    Those are just a few quick tips, but I would definitely go to a store and use the devices and read some articles about both Android and iOS, which will help you choose one. Good luck!
    the_tech_eater likes this.
    07-09-2014 02:08 AM
  6. Speedygi's Avatar
    Personally I'm waiting for WP 8.1. Whatever floats your boat.
    07-09-2014 02:36 AM
  7. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Personally I'm waiting for WP 8.1. Whatever floats your boat.
    I love Windows Phone 8.1, I do. However, I think they shot themselves in the foot by investing in an Android virtual machine to make it run Android apps.
    07-09-2014 09:00 AM
  8. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Deciding on an OS can be a tough decision, but I have some basics of both Android and iOS that might help

    Android: I would recommend Android if you like huge amounts of customization and being able to tweak every little bit of the phone, and be in control of the whole thing. The app selection is pretty great, but there aren't as many quality apps in Google Play as the App Store. There are a huge range of devices to choose from with many manufacturers.

    iOS: If you prefer something that is easy to use with a great UI, and you don't really care to customize a lot, iOS is for you. The app selection is great, and the choices of devices are low, but that simplifies choosing between tons of phones. A lot of services are nice, such as iCloud and Find My iPhone, which simplify the technical stuff and allow you to just use your phone. As many Apple fans say,"It just works".

    I would choose Apple, but that's just me haha

    Those are just a few quick tips, but I would definitely go to a store and use the devices and read some articles about both Android and iOS, which will help you choose one. Good luck!
    I've had both devices recently and honestly, the only reason I couldn't use iOS was it's joke of a keyboard. Fortunately, that will be changing very soon.
    07-09-2014 09:01 AM
  9. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    I love Windows Phone 8.1, I do. However, I think they shot themselves in the foot by investing in an Android virtual machine to make it run Android apps.
    I think lots of people will like that they are making a way to run android apps on WP.


    sent from my iPhone 5
    07-09-2014 09:03 AM
  10. babyfacediPhone's Avatar
    Blackberry? Did you say blackberry? C'mon man!


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    07-09-2014 09:26 AM
  11. z33dev33l's Avatar
    I think lots of people will like that they are making a way to run android apps on WP.


    sent from my iPhone 5
    A lot will. That said, Android apps are far less polished than Windows Phone apps and doing this will eliminate any desire anyone has to build apps for Windows Phone.
    07-09-2014 09:32 AM
  12. RavenSword's Avatar
    A lot will. That said, Android apps are far less polished than Windows Phone apps and doing this will eliminate any desire anyone has to build apps for Windows Phone.
    Maybe. Really, I think the android thing was necessary to try and close the app gap. It was clear that the way they were doing it before was perhaps not working. I'd perhaps wait and see what happens. Honestly, getting android apps on WP would make WP more enticing because you get way more apps available to you. And WP could still have it's own advantages like cortana, better Microsoft service integration, office integration, and etc.
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    07-09-2014 10:36 AM
  13. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I run three platforms. There was a time when I thought I would never leave BlackBerry and saw iOS and Android as nice side devices to my BlackBerry. Through time, with BlackBerry devices bricking and leaving me stranded in the middle of the day (9900) and repeated OS flaws (rebooting and terrible battery life on the Z10 and double typing of letters and almost inexistent app library for my Q10) and Android's fragmentation of OS (I still can't get KitKat) I have turned to my iPhone as my daily driver.

    AND.IT.IS.FLAWLESS.
    Highrisedrifter and joemd60 like this.
    07-09-2014 10:48 AM
  14. bravesfan007's Avatar
    If you want something that just works and will continue to work, go with the iPhone. You can still use iOS 7 on a phone that is long past it's shelf life. With Android, you're outdated in six months, for the most part.


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    07-09-2014 10:50 AM
  15. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Maybe. Really, I think the android thing was necessary to try and close the app gap. It was clear that the way they were doing it before was perhaps not working. I'd perhaps wait and see what happens. Honestly, getting android apps on WP would make WP more enticing because you get way more apps available to you. And WP could still have it's own advantages like cortana, better Microsoft service integration, office integration, and etc.
    Android apps are of poor quality, ugly and ultimately, the fact that you can develop an Android app and have it play on both platforms will dissuade people from building Windows Phone apps which are much more polished. I went Windows Phone for the most polished experience and now they're doing this...
    07-09-2014 11:20 AM
  16. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Personally I'm waiting for WP 8.1. Whatever floats your boat.
    I was very much leaning towards the Lumia 1520. However, now that I'm hearing about the use of Android apps, I am taking a step back. I will not use Android apps on a BlackBerry, and I would not use them on a Lumia. If this is the way both BlackBerry and Windows Phones are going then I'll be losing not only BlackBerry but also the possibility of trying a Lumia. The reliance on Android apps takes away the incentive for developers to create apps for BlackBerry and I fear the same would be true for Windows Phone. This practice serves to reduce competition and leaves us with two platforms, effectively. In my opinion, this is a dangerous practice since it limits competition. Competition spurs development. The customer loses.

    If this is how Windows Phone is going, I would regretfully rethink my plans for a Lumia.
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    07-09-2014 12:51 PM
  17. Evilguppy's Avatar
    Blackberry? Did you say blackberry? C'mon man!


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    Don't knock it til you've tried it. Blackberry is nothing like it used to be, the BBOS 10 is awesome.
    Chrisy likes this.
    07-09-2014 12:56 PM
  18. logvkp's Avatar
    I love Windows Phone 8.1, I do. However, I think they shot themselves in the foot by investing in an Android virtual machine to make it run Android apps.
    But they have not announced the Android compatibility layer. For noe, it's just rumoured.
    07-09-2014 02:29 PM
  19. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Don't knock it til you've tried it. Blackberry is nothing like it used to be, the BBOS 10 is awesome.
    I find BB10 to be super confusing.... Like with iOS, all the apps are right there. and I know that If I open one, I can get back to where they all are by simply pressing the home button. but when I tried bb10 shortly after it came out, I couldn't figure it out at all!
    07-09-2014 03:16 PM
  20. Evilguppy's Avatar
    I find BB10 to be super confusing.... Like with iOS, all the apps are right there. and I know that If I open one, I can get back to where they all are by simply pressing the home button. but when I tried bb10 shortly after it came out, I couldn't figure it out at all!
    Different strokes... it's all about personal preferences.
    I have an iPad air if I really need the apps, otherwise my phone is purely for communication.
    I love the security on BB, the keyboard, the Hub.
    It's faster than Android or iPhone, gets connection when they can't, the battery life kicks ****.
    It's got everything I want, nothing I don't.
    07-09-2014 05:34 PM
  21. Highrisedrifter's Avatar
    I haven't tried BB10 but my old BB, with its physical keyboard and confusing menu structure was a complete PITA to use. I had it for work and hardly touched it unless a work email came through.

    From my personal experience of running an Android app side-by-side with its iOS counterpart, the Android app will fail first in the vast majority of cases. I think this is because the Android app devs have to create an app that plays nicely with all the proprietary UIs, screen sizes, hardware configurations and a good many number of other variables, whereas iOS devs only have to create apps that work on the iPhone or the iPad. At most, four different devices with not as much difference between them as with Android devices and a lot of apps seem to either be tailored to one device over another or have different iterations for iPad and iPhone.

    I am so glad to have an iPhone for the moments when I absolutely need to rely on a device; my Note 3 let me down one day in spectacular fashion for no discernible reason just when I needed it most.
    07-10-2014 03:38 AM
  22. qbnkelt's Avatar

    I am so glad to have an iPhone for the moments when I absolutely need to rely on a device; my Note 3 let me down one day in spectacular fashion for no discernible reason just when I needed it most.
    Regarding phones letting you down - two instances that began the end of the road for my BlackBerry passion....the BIS outage of October 2011 which turned BlackBerry devices into dumb phones unable to access web services or mail, and the nuking/bricking of the 99xx series which left me without a phone quite unexpectedly and without warning I'm the middle of the commute home.

    I swore off BlackBerry them but came back for the Z10 which has atrocious battery life and which rebooted unexpectedly. Finally my Q10 has made me happy. But by now the device for me is the iPhone. BlackBerry is a side device now simply because of the lack of reliability I just mentioned.


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    07-10-2014 04:15 AM
  23. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I started out as a huge Android advocate. As time went by I started getting myself into BlackBerry. I still love my Note 3 but while its an amazing powerhouse, is just too big for a phone. Add in the bad reception I've always had and faulty port Samsung wont fix...its killed my drive. I will always have a fondness for my Z10, Torch, and Style. I've just found that bb is turning into an Androberry. That's just not what I want. If I wanted another Android, I wouldn't get a BlackBerry!

    I use my 5c as my daily driver. It's jailbroken so there really isn't anything missing. Everything I can do on my android I can do here too. While the battery life can get pretty bad (my fault) its still the best device for me at the time. The stability, excellent call quality and style are exactly what I need for now.


    Sent from the Pad using Tapatalk.
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    07-10-2014 06:57 AM
  24. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Androberry. Ha. I'll borrow that.


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    07-10-2014 07:44 AM
  25. gazoo2010's Avatar
    I started out as a huge Android advocate. As time went by I started getting myself into BlackBerry. I still love my Note 3 but while its an amazing powerhouse, is just too big for a phone. Add in the bad reception I've always had and faulty port Samsung wont fix...its killed my drive. I will always have a fondness for my Z10, Torch, and Style. I've just found that bb is turning into an Androberry. That's just not what I want. If I wanted another Android, I wouldn't get a BlackBerry!

    I use my 5c as my daily driver. It's jailbroken so there really isn't anything missing. Everything I can do on my android I can do here too. While the battery life can get pretty bad (my fault) its still the best device for me at the time. The stability, excellent call quality and style are exactly what I need for now.


    Sent from the Pad using Tapatalk.
    Which carrier is your Z10 on? I am thinking I want to try one for the Blackberry Hub, but TMO no longer sells them.....

    ~S
    07-10-2014 08:56 AM
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