1. John Yester's Avatar
    Ummmm No way....... Glad I am with Apple over past 4 years and going
    the_tech_eater likes this.
    06-23-2014 08:56 AM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    The device looks okay in the second photo, in my opinion, but it looks huge in the others. I am curious to see how it actually looks outside of photos. Will I be getting the Blackberry Passport? No...
    06-23-2014 09:02 AM
  3. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    Can't use it hahahaha. Utterly useless???, you really are misinformed aren't you.

    "iOS 7 will be 64-bit, just like the iPhone 5s' new A7 chip"

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/23/yse5ebat.jpg

    "Apple also revealed that iOS 7 itself will be 64-bit. This means a native 64-bit kernel, along with 64-bit libraries and drivers. Accordingly, all of the native apps that come baked into iOS have been retooled to serve up faster performance "

    The roads have already been built. And everyone with a 5s are on it.


    Developers have been writing apps in 64 bit for a year now.

    From apples developers website:

    "About 64-Bit Cocoa Touch Apps

    When desktop operating systems transitioned from 32-bit to 64-bit addressing, 64-bit apps were critical to the OS transition. Now, iOS is getting a similar desktop-class architecture. Starting with iOS 7 and the A7 processor, you can build iOS apps that take advantage of 64-bit processors. An app that supports 64-bit processing almost always gains improved performance when compared with a 32-bit app running on the same device."


    https://developer.apple.com/library/...roduction.html

    Guaranteed performance increase is useless to you? Increased efficacy?

    Oh right 64 bit is useless until the competitors feature it.
    I remember a lot of posters downplaying multitouch and capacitive screens when the iPhone launched, touting the resistive touch screens and stylus as a more mature solution. Complete bs.
    Do you even have a computer with 64-bit addressing?
    06-23-2014 09:38 AM
  4. agarwal.apar's Avatar
    IMO, Passport sucks. I don't know how JC approved this design? Classic is classy, I like that.


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    06-23-2014 09:57 AM
  5. lui22's Avatar
    Can't use it hahahaha. Utterly useless???, you really are misinformed aren't you.

    "iOS 7 will be 64-bit, just like the iPhone 5s' new A7 chip"

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/23/yse5ebat.jpg

    "Apple also revealed that iOS 7 itself will be 64-bit. This means a native 64-bit kernel, along with 64-bit libraries and drivers. Accordingly, all of the native apps that come baked into iOS have been retooled to serve up faster performance "

    The roads have already been built. And everyone with a 5s are on it.


    Developers have been writing apps in 64 bit for a year now.

    From apples developers website:

    "About 64-Bit Cocoa Touch Apps

    When desktop operating systems transitioned from 32-bit to 64-bit addressing, 64-bit apps were critical to the OS transition. Now, iOS is getting a similar desktop-class architecture. Starting with iOS 7 and the A7 processor, you can build iOS apps that take advantage of 64-bit processors. An app that supports 64-bit processing almost always gains improved performance when compared with a 32-bit app running on the same device."


    https://developer.apple.com/library/...roduction.html

    Guaranteed performance increase is useless to you? Increased efficacy?

    Oh right 64 bit is useless until the competitors feature it.
    I remember a lot of posters downplaying multitouch and capacitive screens when the iPhone launched, touting the resistive touch screens and stylus as a more mature solution. Complete bs.
    What is the point 64bit on an iPhone? To browse Facebook? To play games on a sub hd screen?
    06-23-2014 02:24 PM
  6. John Yester's Avatar
    What benefits does the iPhone 5S get from being 64-bit? | Wandering Coder

    Short... and to the point.. Well not short but you get the picture.
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    06-23-2014 03:24 PM
  7. acerace113's Avatar
    What is the point 64bit on an iPhone? To browse Facebook? To play games on a sub hd screen?
    It would be stupid of Facebook to update there app to 64-bit. Not all apps need to be 64-bit


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    06-23-2014 06:53 PM
  8. FFR's Avatar
    It would be stupid of Facebook to update there app to 64-bit. Not all apps need to be 64-bit


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    You would be surprised.

    https://developers.facebook.com/docs...hange-log-3.x/
    06-25-2014 03:06 AM
  9. FFR's Avatar
    What is the point 64bit on an iPhone? To browse Facebook? To play games on a sub hd screen?
    Efficiency, especially related to refreshing apps in the background. You know because it runs off a very finite battery. And with iOS 8 and the 64bit environment Touch ID will be coming to face book and other apps very shortly.

    I watch 1080p off my iPhone when I airplay it to my tv, or use an Hdmi cable. Same can be said about games from iOS device to an hd television.

    Lui do you have a 5s?
    Coachbulldog likes this.
    06-25-2014 03:18 AM
  10. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    'When desktop operating systems transitioned from 32-bit to 64-bit addressing, 64-bit apps were critical to the OS transition.'

    Because without them nobody would switch to 64bit, even though the experience would be virtually identical. What about the multi core element? In my experience the only advantage has been less chance of a system crash.
    06-25-2014 07:51 AM
  11. FFR's Avatar
    'When desktop operating systems transitioned from 32-bit to 64-bit addressing, 64-bit apps were critical to the OS transition.'

    Because without them nobody would switch to 64bit, even though the experience would be virtually identical. What about the multi core element? In my experience the only advantage has been less chance of a system crash.
    Without what?

    What are you trying to say?
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    06-25-2014 01:59 PM
  12. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I will be getting the BlackBerry Passport. I thought I would get the Classic but I'm VERY interested in the Passport, based on those pictures.
    About Android apps - no. I bought and will buy a BlackBerry and I will put native apps on it or I will use the browser. I want my apps to be supported by the developer and optimised for my device.
    I've got an SGIII and that's where my Android apps live.
    And of course, I'll be getting an iPhone 6.


    Sent from my GORGEOUS, AWESOME Gold 64G iPhone 5s via Tapatalk
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    06-26-2014 06:51 AM
  13. lui22's Avatar
    Efficiency, especially related to refreshing apps in the background. You know because it runs off a very finite battery. And with iOS 8 and the 64bit environment Touch ID will be coming to face book and other apps very shortly.

    I watch 1080p off my iPhone when I airplay it to my tv, or use an Hdmi cable. Same can be said about games from iOS device to an hd television.

    Lui do you have a 5s?
    Yes actually a gold one. After a month I gave it to my mom as a trade of so I could use her iMac for school. Kept my RdMini though. Love this thing. I think It was the natural replacement to my supper trooper PlayBook. I am going to my buy my Ex's when he upgrade to the 6. The 6 will be the only iPhone I will not own.

    The thing I don't understand about 64bit on a mobile device as underpowered as ours is the necessity behind it. Sure it's capable of "desktop class computing," theoretically, but what's the point. On my Q10 I can miracast a 1080 movie on to an HDTV AND PLAY real racing at the SAME time. 32bit computing on a mobile device is plenty enough. The technical requirement for these phone will ever only rarely if That, be used. Really like going run autocad off of my tiny phone. Your phone shouldn't be a computing hub of master technology thats pointless and irrational.
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    06-28-2014 02:13 AM
  14. FFR's Avatar
    Yes actually a gold one. After a month I gave it to my mom as a trade of so I could use her iMac for school. Kept my RdMini though. Love this thing. I think It was the natural replacement to my supper trooper PlayBook. I am going to my buy my Ex's when he upgrade to the 6. The 6 will be the only iPhone I will not own.
    Let me stop you right here, you don't have one.
    Which, in hindsight, makes complete sense.

    The thing I don't understand about 64bit on a mobile device as underpowered as ours is the necessity behind it. Sure it's capable of "desktop class computing," theoretically, but what's the point.
    You think the 5s is underpowered?
    It's not. The q10, definitely.

    I keep telling you: battery efficiency, Touch ID, and the m7 processor.

    Just look at the s5, it's biometric implementation is rubbish, and won't get better. Well not with out a 64 bit processor and android L.

    On my Q10 I can miracast a 1080 movie on to an HDTV AND PLAY real racing at the SAME time. 32bit computing on a mobile device is plenty enough.
    People on iOS have been doing that since iOS 4.

    How long will your battery last?
    I guarantee you the iPhone 5s will outlast the q10 at mirroring a video AND playing a visually intensive game, it's what the a7 was made for.

    Battery:
    iPhone 5s: 1560 mah
    Q10: 2200 mah

    Screen:
    4.0 LCD vs 3.1 amoled
    Depth:

    7.6mm vs 10.4mm



    Other than talk time and video playback the iPhone consistently beats the q10 battery. With a screen that is 26% larger, a battery that is 34% smaller and a frame that is 31% slimmer, ofcourse this is ALL POSSIBLE thanks to the a7 and it's 64 bit architecture.

    How long can you even play need for speed on your q10?
    2.2 hours, non stop?
    I was being quite generous.

    You can look up the q10 figures yourself,


    The technical requirement for these phone will ever only rarely if That, be used. Really like going run autocad off of my tiny phone. Your phone shouldn't be a computing hub of master technology thats pointless and irrational.

    I REPEAT: the same was said about multi touch and capacitive displays.

    Pointless and irrational is what I call someone buying a blackberry, NOT a 64 bit mobile computing device, that comes with a 64 bit native ecosystem. In September with iOS 8 and metal, well life's unfair.

    You enjoy your blackberry* now.
    *(I hope you didn't pay full price for it)
    06-28-2014 05:27 AM
  15. Septembersrain's Avatar
    All I can say to this back and forth is:

    If you want a BlackBerry Passport, get it. Who cares what anyone thinks? It's about what YOU want.

    If you don't like it or want one, fine. Just don't waste all your energy trying to dissuade others.

    Having the freedom to choose what device you want, that's a really great privilege. Let others enjoy that too.

    This coming from a BB, Android and iPhone owner who previously had WebOS, Symbian, WP 8-8.1, and MIUI. ^_^

    Live a little.

    Sent from a larger than life device using Tapatalk!
    06-28-2014 06:36 AM
  16. FFR's Avatar
    All I can say to this back and forth is:

    If you want a BlackBerry Passport, get it. Who cares what anyone thinks? It's about what YOU want.

    If you don't like it or want one, fine. Just don't waste all your energy trying to dissuade others.

    Having the freedom to choose what device you want, that's a really great privilege. Let others enjoy that too.

    This coming from a BB, Android and iPhone owner who previously had WebOS, Symbian, WP 8-8.1, and MIUI. ^_^

    Live a little.

    Sent from a larger than life device using Tapatalk!
    Wasn't that the point of this thread?
    "Apple User Thoughts On BlackBerry Passport"
    06-28-2014 06:59 AM
  17. Septembersrain's Avatar
    Wasn't that the point of this thread?
    "Apple User Thoughts On BlackBerry Passport"
    Thoughts, yes. Not arguments or bashing.

    Sent from a larger than life device using Tapatalk!
    06-28-2014 07:29 AM
  18. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    It would be stupid of Facebook to update there app to 64-bit. Not all apps need to be 64-bit


    Sent from my 5th gen iPod touch (beta testing) or iPhone 5S using Tapatalk
    No it wouldn't. It could use a speed boost.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    06-28-2014 07:32 AM
  19. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Let me stop you right here, you don't have one.
    Which, in hindsight, makes complete sense.



    You think the 5s is underpowered?
    It's not. The q10, definitely.

    I keep telling you: battery efficiency, Touch ID, and the m7 processor.

    Just look at the s5, it's biometric implementation is rubbish, and won't get better. Well not with out a 64 bit processor and android L.



    People on iOS have been doing that since iOS 4.

    How long will your battery last?
    I guarantee you the iPhone 5s will outlast the q10 at mirroring a video AND playing a visually intensive game, it's what the a7 was made for.

    Battery:
    iPhone 5s: 1560 mah
    Q10: 2200 mah

    Screen:
    4.0 LCD vs 3.1 amoled
    Depth:

    7.6mm vs 10.4mm

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/28/gagutu8y.jpg

    Other than talk time and video playback the iPhone consistently beats the q10 battery. With a screen that is 26% larger, a battery that is 34% smaller and a frame that is 31% slimmer, ofcourse this is ALL POSSIBLE thanks to the a7 and it's 64 bit architecture.

    How long can you even play need for speed on your q10?
    2.2 hours, non stop?
    I was being quite generous.

    You can look up the q10 figures yourself,





    I REPEAT: the same was said about multi touch and capacitive displays.

    Pointless and irrational is what I call someone buying a blackberry, NOT a 64 bit mobile computing device, that comes with a 64 bit native ecosystem. In September with iOS 8 and metal, well life's unfair.

    You enjoy your blackberry* now.
    *(I hope you didn't pay full price for it)
    I like you, @FFR


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    06-28-2014 07:36 AM
  20. qbnkelt's Avatar
    All I can say to this back and forth is:

    If you want a BlackBerry Passport, get it. Who cares what anyone thinks? It's about what YOU want.

    If you don't like it or want one, fine. Just don't waste all your energy trying to dissuade others.

    Having the freedom to choose what device you want, that's a really great privilege. Let others enjoy that too.

    This coming from a BB, Android and iPhone owner who previously had WebOS, Symbian, WP 8-8.1, and MIUI. ^_^

    Live a little.

    Sent from a larger than life device using Tapatalk!
    THAT.WAS.BRILLIANT.

    Thank you.


    Sent from my GORGEOUS, AWESOME Gold 64G iPhone 5s via Tapatalk
    06-28-2014 08:19 AM
  21. acerace113's Avatar
    No it wouldn't. It could use a speed boost.


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    No, what the Facebook app needs is a complete rewrite and optimization not 64-bit.


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    06-28-2014 08:20 AM
  22. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    No, what the Facebook app needs is a complete rewrite and optimization not 64-bit.


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    It needs all three.


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    06-28-2014 08:20 AM
  23. acerace113's Avatar
    That blackberry passport phone looks too flat in terms of design.


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    06-28-2014 08:21 AM
  24. qbnkelt's Avatar
    That blackberry passport phone looks too flat in terms of design.


    Sent from my iPhone 5S or 5th gen iPod Touch (beta testing) using Tapatalk
    You know, it's an acquired taste. When I first saw it I thought it was an abomination. Now, depending on price, I will get it. By that I mean I will get the iPhone 6 first. I will get the Passport at a later date once I've got the expendable cash. Unfortunately I believe it will be way overpriced, based on the Z10's and Q10's pricing at launch. I got my Q10 used, at 200 bucks, which was what I feel it was worth. Retail at 600 initially, absolutely not.


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    06-28-2014 08:28 AM
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    Friendly reminder folks.........

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    Be polite. We ask that you keep your language clean and polite.
    Be understanding and patient. You may be a power user or developer, but the person you’re talking to on the other end may be a complete newbie. Be patient, and provide all details possible if you’re posting about a problem (descriptive thread title always helps).
    Be a pro. Don’t get into arguments over dumb things. If someone responds in a poor or rude fashion, ignore it. If you notice a pattern of rude or poor behavior from a particular member, report them to our moderators. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. In a nutshell, ‘think before you post’.
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    06-28-2014 09:10 AM
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