1. FFR's Avatar
    Short on innovation, but long on price-fixing. $$$.
    What you call price fixing, I call holding value. As customer, I'm thrilled whenever apple helps to maintain value in their products. I wish some of the other manufacturers would but they are all about exploiting their customers.

    Touch ID, 64 bit architecture, iTunes ecosystem, etc. etc. all help apple hold value.
    06-17-2014 07:46 AM
  2. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    It is seriously ok to have your own private definition of price-fixing. That makes you a snowflake. Screw dictionaries.
    06-17-2014 08:46 AM
  3. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    Whenever Apple announces a new version of iOS it is often criticized as playing catch up to Android. Third party keyboards in the upcoming iOS 8 is a good example of iOS adding something that Android users had for years. In digging through my article archives I found this article that is still applicable to today:

    The iPhone may be late to features, but only Android users care - CNET

    But what say you? If you own an iPhone how do you feel when Apple adds features that have long been on Android? And if you own an Android phone how do you feel when Apple adds features to iOS that you have had for a long time? Is Apple really playing catch up?
    Personally I think it's kinda cute that somebody still reads Cnet ...
    06-17-2014 10:14 AM
  4. FFR's Avatar
    It is seriously ok to have your own private definition of price-fixing. That makes you a snowflake. Screw dictionaries.
    And in this conspiracy, who else is participating?
    06-17-2014 11:30 AM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    I don't see it as copying. They have had the technology probably longer than Google. But they take their time so that when that technology is used, it's going to work great. That's why the iPhone is a much more stable phone than the Androids.


    Sent from from my iPhone 5
    I agree Apple is known for waiting until something is just right before releasing but the keyboard is a bad example. They are allowing 3rd party ones.. Not ones they made. So it's about simply letting the OS do it. There really isn't anything to perfect.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using iMore Forums.
    06-17-2014 01:36 PM
  6. z33dev33l's Avatar
    I agree Apple is known for waiting until something is just right before releasing but the keyboard is a bad example. They are allowing 3rd party ones.. Not ones they made. So it's about simply letting the OS do it. There really isn't anything to perfect.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using iMore Forums.
    I'm excited though considering with iOS 7, my only complaint was that the keyboard was near unusable and incredibly dumb by smartphone standards. I do hope that some keyboards retain the visuals of the iPhone as opposed to putting on their visually underwhelming appearances.
    06-17-2014 02:22 PM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    I'm excited though considering with iOS 7, my only complaint was that the keyboard was near unusable and incredibly dumb by smartphone standards. I do hope that some keyboards retain the visuals of the iPhone as opposed to putting on their visually underwhelming appearances.
    But one could make an appearance you like... You wouldn't know till it happened .

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    06-17-2014 03:03 PM
  8. z33dev33l's Avatar
    But one could make an appearance you like... You wouldn't know till it happened .

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using iMore Forums.
    I misspoke. I just hope they don't take their Android appearances over here.
    06-17-2014 03:09 PM
  9. sting7k's Avatar
    Everyone is always playing catch up to everyone else. Some companies just do it differently. Apple doesn't just throw features into their devices on a whim, that's how they always operate. So to some I guess it looks like they are playing catch up on the features list. IMO Android still needs to catch WAY up on polish, cohesiveness, usability, and stability.

    Ever since I tried Swiftkey on Android I've wanted it on my iPhone. Now Apple has finally decided they are able to deliver an enjoyable Swiftkey experience on the iPhone. IMO this is only good.
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    06-17-2014 03:53 PM
  10. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Everyone is always playing catch up to everyone else. Some companies just do it differently. Apple doesn't just throw features into their devices on a whim, that's how they always operate. So to some I guess it looks like they are playing catch up on the features list. IMO Android still needs to catch WAY up on polish, cohesiveness, usability, and stability.

    Ever since I tried Swiftkey on Android I've wanted it on my iPhone. Now Apple has finally decided they are able to deliver an enjoyable Swiftkey experience on the iPhone. IMO this is only good.
    That's why I respect Microsoft and Apple's approach to making a quality product. Not just a feature-packed one.
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    06-17-2014 03:54 PM
  11. Antron's Avatar
    06-17-2014 04:05 PM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    Everyone is always playing catch up to everyone else. Some companies just do it differently. Apple doesn't just throw features into their devices on a whim, that's how they always operate. So to some I guess it looks like they are playing catch up on the features list. IMO Android still needs to catch WAY up on polish, cohesiveness, usability, and stability.

    Ever since I tried Swiftkey on Android I've wanted it on my iPhone. Now Apple has finally decided they are able to deliver an enjoyable Swiftkey experience on the iPhone. IMO this is only good.
    Oh I agree it's good. I'm glad Apple is expanding to these things for their users. All it can do is benefit the consumer .

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using iMore Forums.
    06-17-2014 04:45 PM
  13. sting7k's Avatar
    That's why I respect Microsoft and Apple's approach to making a quality product. Not just a feature-packed one.
    You must never have used Windows Vista. Maybe we should change that to Windows "Thou who we shall not name".
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    06-17-2014 05:41 PM
  14. z33dev33l's Avatar
    You must never have used Windows Vista. Maybe we should change that to Windows "Thou who we shall not name".
    Haha, I meant in the mobile world. Fair enough though.
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    06-17-2014 08:04 PM
  15. Alik Malix's Avatar
    Personally, I feel Apple has always been a copy cat. That's not a bad thing though as they generally copy it and make it more polished than Android and as polished as Windows Phone.
    Hey z33dev33l, nice to see you on this side of the pond...
    I gotta reply to your post though with the same points as on Android Central. If Apple was always a copy cat, why did they lead the smartphone industry to what it is today... The biggest competitor to iOS is Android and even from the start they had to trash their current project and start with what Apple was doing... The Day Google Had to 'Start Over' on Android - Fred Vogelstein - The Atlantic

    Sorry, dude, you're not going to change history... the entire Android platform we know today was inspired by the "USELESS" iPhone in 2007...
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    06-17-2014 11:06 PM
  16. Speedygi's Avatar
    Hey z33dev33l, nice to see you on this side of the pond...
    I gotta reply to your post though with the same points as on Android Central. If Apple was always a copy cat, why did they lead the smartphone industry to what it is today... The biggest competitor to iOS is Android and even from the start they had to trash their current project and start with what Apple was doing... The Day Google Had to 'Start Over' on Android - Fred Vogelstein - The Atlantic

    Sorry, dude, you're not going change history... the entire Android platform we know today was inspired by the "USELESS" iPhone in 2007...
    Well said, and the iPhone wouldn't have been born if past mistakes in the mobile space was not used for information used towards making a better phone and product...
    06-18-2014 07:54 AM
  17. cbobb123's Avatar
    It's pretty clear that a lot of the ideas for iOS 8 were nicked from Android, but to be honest, this is how tech companies generally work. The same could be said for any of the tech companies, whether it be Apple, Google, Palm, Microsoft, etc. I don't really care as long as it drives phone manufacturers to compete with each other by create better devices.

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    06-18-2014 08:44 AM
  18. Speedygi's Avatar
    It's pretty clear that a lot of the ideas for iOS 8 were nicked from Android, but to be honest, this is how tech companies generally work. The same could be said for any of the tech companies, whether it be Apple, Google, Palm, Microsoft, etc. I don't really care as long as it drives phone manufacturers to compete with each other by create better devices.

    Posted via iMore App
    This is true, it's how the industry works...
    06-18-2014 08:49 AM
  19. FFR's Avatar
    It's pretty clear that a lot of the ideas for iOS 8 were nicked from Android, but to be honest, this is how tech companies generally work. The same could be said for any of the tech companies, whether it be Apple, Google, Palm, Microsoft, etc. I don't really care as long as it drives phone manufacturers to compete with each other by create better devices.

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    I actually feel as though apple took ideas from the jail breaking community not android.
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    06-18-2014 08:56 AM
  20. AgentHeracles's Avatar
    You forgot about Microsoft BOB and Windows ME. Now granted BOB was released on primitive hardware and would do better with todays computers.
    Last edited by Lt_Solorna; 06-18-2014 at 12:58 PM.
    06-18-2014 09:12 AM
  21. cbobb123's Avatar
    @FFR Things like 3rd party/predictive keyboards, widgets, spotlight improvements and developers being able to make short video demos to promote their apps do seem to be taken from android IMO.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
    06-18-2014 09:20 AM
  22. Speedygi's Avatar
    @FFR Things like 3rd party/predictive keyboards, widgets, spotlight improvements and developers being able to make short video demos to promote their apps do seem to be taken from android IMO.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
    But does it really matter where the ideas were taken from? Just posing a legitimate question and not inciting anything.
    06-18-2014 09:29 AM
  23. AgentHeracles's Avatar
    But does it really matter where the ideas were taken from? Just posing a legitimate question and not inciting anything.
    It really doesn't matter Speedy, not at all.
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    06-18-2014 09:36 AM
  24. cbobb123's Avatar
    But does it really matter where the ideas were taken from? Just posing a legitimate question and not inciting anything.
    No it doesn't matter. All I'm saying is that some(not all) of the features in IOS 8 originated from android. As I said in my original post it's good that the companies are "borrowing" ideas from each other to keep up with competition.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
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    06-18-2014 09:55 AM
  25. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Hey z33dev33l, nice to see you on this side of the pond...
    I gotta reply to your post though with the same points as on Android Central. If Apple was always a copy cat, why did they lead the smartphone industry to what it is today... The biggest competitor to iOS is Android and even from the start they had to trash their current project and start with what Apple was doing... The Day Google Had to 'Start Over' on Android - Fred Vogelstein - The Atlantic

    Sorry, dude, you're not going to change history... the entire Android platform we know today was inspired by the "USELESS" iPhone in 2007...
    It caused them to realize that touch was the way of the future since pretty much every mobile phone with a touchscreen prior to the iPhone was about as aesthetically pleasing as a schoolbus fire.
    cbobb123 likes this.
    06-18-2014 10:30 AM
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