1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Is Tim Cook being viewed, judged and treated unfairly by the masses for NOT being Steve Jobs? Is his skill and expertise being overlooked because of Steve's larger than life persona? I think so. What about you?
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    03-19-2014 02:15 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    Haters gonna hate... Jobs isn't here anymore to kick around so they've moved on to Cook...
    03-19-2014 02:18 PM
  3. kataran's Avatar
    The human condition is forever flawed people spend a lot of energy on negativity this day and age




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    03-19-2014 03:15 PM
  4. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Tim Cook took over where Steve Jobs left the company upon his death and has not missed a beat so as long as he continues doing what he is doing with his executive team there will be many doubters.
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    03-19-2014 04:32 PM
  5. jclisenby's Avatar
    Tim is doing his best. He's not Steve and can't be held to the same standards. Tim runs Apple the best way that he can, keeping focused on core values. Steve did the same thing, just ran it all a little differently. Apple is Apple because of the culture and philosophy. Tim won't change this, he just enriches the culture as he leads Apple in 2014 and beyond.


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    03-19-2014 07:16 PM
  6. Speedygi's Avatar
    He brought in new products, the Mini and the Pro, all wonderful and bestselling...

    In my opinion, great men are always going to be treated unfairly...Because the bottom tries to balance things out...
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    03-19-2014 07:25 PM
  7. rayz336's Avatar
    I feel like he does get judged unfairly due to the huge shadow that is Steve Jobs but I guess that's to be expected because of the showman that Steve was.
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    03-19-2014 09:09 PM
  8. pr1nce's Avatar
    He does get judged unfairly. Anyone who would have replaced Steve Jobs would have been treated the same. He's done a good job.
    03-20-2014 12:01 AM
  9. taz323's Avatar
    Maybe, but I have no complaints.
    03-20-2014 12:08 AM
  10. anon5664829's Avatar
    Is Tim Cook being viewed, judged and treated unfairly by the masses for NOT being Steve Jobs? Is his skill and expertise being overlooked because of Steve's larger than life persona? I think so. What about you?
    I fully agree. He does an excellent job and gets all the hate
    03-20-2014 12:19 AM
  11. meashishnd's Avatar
    i don't think so , mr. tim cook treat like that. him behaviour is so good politely even with media
    03-20-2014 01:18 AM
  12. Peligro911's Avatar
    IMO Tim so far has been finishing some of jobs projects that he left .. Also Tim is not Steve no matter the job title .. I think he is doing Tim .. Steve did Steve and both are good in their own way. It will be interesting to see what way Tim takes the company and what fully new products come down the line that Tim can call his own .


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    03-20-2014 02:27 AM
  13. anon5664829's Avatar
    IMO Tim so far has been finishing some of jobs projects that he left .. Also Tim is not Steve no matter the job title .. I think he is doing Tim .. Steve did Steve and both are good in their own way. It will be interesting to see what way Tim takes the company and what fully new products come down the line that Tim can call his own .


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    Not his products. Hois teams products that he finally rejects or accepts.
    03-20-2014 03:39 AM
  14. RavenSword's Avatar
    Yeah, but people are always going to try and crucify the guy in charge. Same thing happened to balmer. same thing will happen to nadela.same thing happens with any CEO.
    03-20-2014 04:32 AM
  15. Septembersrain's Avatar
    Everyone will try to compare him to Steve Jobs. The problem with that is they are only human. They both had/have their pluses and minuses.

    I've noticed people always try to glorify those who have passed. They overlook the deceased flaws and only capitalise on their assets. Thus no one can live up to the Steve Jobs in their memories.

    I think Tim Cook is doing as well as to be expected. While he's not perfect, he isn't positively horrible either. As the company grows, he'll grow with it. Just my opinion.

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    03-20-2014 08:03 AM
  16. RavenSword's Avatar
    Everyone will try to compare him to Steve Jobs. The problem with that is they are only human. They both had/have their pluses and minuses.

    I've noticed people always try to glorify those who have passed. They overlook the deceased flaws and only capitalise on their assets. Thus no one can live up to the Steve Jobs in their memories.

    I think Tim Cook is doing as well as to be expected. While he's not perfect, he isn't positively horrible either. As the company grows, he'll grow with it. Just my opinion.

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    Exactly. Steve jobs was a great innovator with many talents, but he also had many flaws.
    03-20-2014 01:07 PM
  17. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Haven't read all the previous posts so forgive me that, but IMO Tim Cook makes far far too too much money for anyone to even consider whether or not he's being treated fairly. At those $$,$$$,$$$,$$$ anything he gets, no matter how rough, is fair. He's paid to make wonderful things happen so he should be held to that standard...IMO. If he feels he's being treated unfairly he can always let someone else have a turn. I never had the expectation that he would be a Steve Jobs and it will only lead to dissapointment if that is what is expected of him. Steve was not "normal" Tim...Tim seems "normal" and I think he's doing okay. Not great, but okay.


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    03-20-2014 02:58 PM
  18. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    Haven't read all the previous posts so forgive me that, but IMO Tim Cook makes far far too too much money for anyone to even consider whether or not he's being treated fairly. At those $$,$$$,$$$ anything he gets, no matter how rough, is fair. He's paid to make wonderful things happen so he should be held to that standard...IMO. If he feels he's being treated unfairly he can always let someone else have a turn. I never had the expectation that he would be a Steve Jobs and it will only lead to dissapointment if that is what is expected of him. Steve was not "normal" Tim...Tim seems "normal" and I think he's doing okay. Not great, but okay.


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    This a million times over. If you want me to feel bad for ol' Tim, it isn't going to happen.
    03-20-2014 04:29 PM
  19. Amamba's Avatar
    Steve Jobs had vision, taste, and an enormous drive with an ability to push others to do things as he envisioned them.

    Tim Cook is a good executive but I'm afraid he's not at Jobs' level. Lately Apple has been reacting, not leading, as far as the out of the box thinking is concerned. When Apple does something they seem to put more effort into it, so they are generally successful. But, they didn't come up with a portable tablet - Mini was a relative latecomer; they are still not competing In a phablet market and I doubt my next phone would be an iPhone, given how great my wife's Galaxy S3 has proven to be, with a much larger gorgeous screen and far longer battery life than iPhone ; iOS7 was seen by many as a step back in graphical design - something that never happened under Jobs. And it's not Cooks fault - you can't expect him to be a visionary.

    Apple still makes solid, well put together and expensive hardware, and as long as Android manufacturers tend to be sloppy, Apple will sell well. But under Jobs, they were the first with iPod, the first with a real modern smartphone, and the first with a real modern tablet; now, as I said, they seem to let others take the lead in developing new ideas, and then try to mimic them utilizing Apple's superior product design and manufacturing processes.
    03-22-2014 10:24 PM
  20. EmceeGeek's Avatar
    Siri was created 8 years before it was released. Jobs was a genius. Of course not for that reason, I'm just saying, he was a true innovator. I'm waiting for Cook to "wow" me.


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    03-23-2014 03:01 PM
  21. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    It's sort of the Michael Jordan/John Elway/Dan Marino type syndrome. Nobody will be able to fill those shoes so they fall under more scrutiny. For some reason they are compared to their predecessors almost as if they're supposed to resemble them. Lebron James' bar is set to Michael Jordan stature for some and it's not right. Or anyone who tried to fill John Elway's shoes when he retired. Even when Dan Marino retired. Granted, some of the guys that came after them completely sucked. But I don't think Cook deserves the criticism he gets. He's more of a business man. That's what I expect out of him and wouldn't want him to try to be something he isn't.
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    03-24-2014 04:25 PM
  22. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Is he Steve Jobs? Of course not. I doubt we'll ever have another Jobs in charge of Apple.

    Is he being treated unfairly? I don't personally think he is, but to be totally honest, even if he was being treated unfairly, tell me where to sign up for that kind of treatment at that income level. I get treated like sh*t all the time at work, by civilians AND superior officers...and I don't make even a small fraction of what he does. The truth is, when you get paid that much money, who cares about how people treat you as long as the company you're running is still at the top of the food chain.
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    03-26-2014 08:20 AM
  23. Peligro911's Avatar
    Siri was created 8 years before it was released. Jobs was a genius. Of course not for that reason, I'm just saying, he was a true innovator. I'm waiting for Cook to "wow" me.


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    Wow 8 years that's impressive. Makes you wonder what they have that we won't see till 2022 lol


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    03-31-2014 11:20 PM
  24. EmceeGeek's Avatar
    Wow 8 years that's impressive. Makes you wonder what they have that we won't see till 2022 lol


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    Exactly!! He came with it at the right time too. It's amazing.


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    04-01-2014 11:45 AM
  25. applejosh's Avatar
    I don't know if he's being treated unfairly, but I do think he's being compared to Jobs and not necessarily judged on his own accomplishments. But he's well paid and appears to be respected by those in the company and industry, so he's probably not complaining about it.
    04-02-2014 07:27 PM

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