1. RavenSword's Avatar
    So I still want to keep using ios for the time being, mainly because it's working well for me right now and I don't want to spend the money to switch right now, but the one thing I want to avoid is apple lock in so I can never switch if I even wanted to later on. This is mostly to do with video content. I just don't think it's a good idea to buy off iTunes since you can only get it on apple stuff.

    This could also apply to cloud services like iTunes Match. That again can only be accessed on apple products .

    Is it even possible to continue using ios to its fullest without falling into the apple lock in trap? Should I just buy video off amazon or something?

    To those who buy off iTunes , don't you ever fear the lock in?
    01-23-2014 02:51 AM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    01-23-2014 08:09 AM
  3. rayz336's Avatar
    I don't really fear Apple lock in. I rarely buy video content from iTunes. The article that Keith linked is pretty good and that's pretty much how it is as long DRM comes into play.
    01-23-2014 08:26 AM
  4. RavenSword's Avatar
    I don't really fear Apple lock in. I rarely buy video content from iTunes. The article that Keith linked is pretty good and that's pretty much how it is as long DRM comes into play.
    I actually don't fully agree with the article. There's more lock in with iTunes than with amazon or google for the simple fact you can access them more places than iTunes.
    01-23-2014 08:32 AM
  5. rayz336's Avatar
    I actually don't fully agree with the article. There's more lock in with iTunes than with amazon or google for the simple fact you can access them more places than iTunes.
    That's true, access is very important. For my purposes, I can play my iTunes videos in VLC so I didn't really consider that. Thanks for bringing up that point.
    01-23-2014 08:36 AM
  6. Algus's Avatar
    IDK I don't really watch media on my smartphone. Sometimes I do on my tablet but I'd rather at home watch it in windows on my big monitor or use my laptop. I don't see myself ever owning a non-Apple computer again. I love OS X to much. I'm partial to Amazon but don't really use their streaming video since they won't release an app for non-Kindle Android. I'd have no qualms about purchasing exclusive video content from the iTunes store though.

    I'm a fan of classic Hollywood cinema and still am not at the point where I consider anything but physical media to be a genuine collection.

    BTW I agree with you about the lock-in issue and it was the first thing I thought of when I read the editorial. I mean, I love Apple as much as the next fanboy on this website but we're really kidding ourselves if we think iTunes is on equal footing with Amazon, Google, etc.
    01-23-2014 08:52 AM
  7. sting7k's Avatar
    So I still want to keep using ios for the time being, mainly because it's working well for me right now and I don't want to spend the money to switch right now, but the one thing I want to avoid is apple lock in so I can never switch if I even wanted to later on. This is mostly to do with video content. I just don't think it's a good idea to buy off iTunes since you can only get it on apple stuff.

    This could also apply to cloud services like iTunes Match. That again can only be accessed on apple products .

    Is it even possible to continue using ios to its fullest without falling into the apple lock in trap? Should I just buy video off amazon or something?

    To those who buy off iTunes , don't you ever fear the lock in?
    For video it is lock in on every platform; Google, Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft. There is nothing you can do. If you don't want to be locked in then don't buy digital videos as they will only play on one platform due to DRM rules. This isn't an issue for me personally as I am not interested in watching videos on a tiny screen when I have a large TV sitting at home.

    For music it is a totally different story. You can buy music any where and play it anywhere. I generally purchase music on AmazonMP3 or iTunes depending on which is the cheapest. I uploaded most of my personal music to Amazon's cloud storage and use their Cloud Player on my iPhone and Moto X.

    You only get locked in if you allow yourself to be locked in.
    01-23-2014 08:58 AM
  8. iEd's Avatar
    I don't feel locked in. If there is video content I want that's on iTunes I'll buy it. Only being able to view it on Apple devices is fine by me because I have no real interest in any other video devices but Apple devices.

    You're only locked in if it's a place you don't want to be.
    01-23-2014 09:08 AM
  9. Fausty82's Avatar
    So I still want to keep using ios for the time being, mainly because it's working well for me right now and I don't want to spend the money to switch right now, but the one thing I want to avoid is apple lock in so I can never switch if I even wanted to later on. This is mostly to do with video content. I just don't think it's a good idea to buy off iTunes since you can only get it on apple stuff.

    This could also apply to cloud services like iTunes Match. That again can only be accessed on apple products .

    Is it even possible to continue using ios to its fullest without falling into the apple lock in trap? Should I just buy video off amazon or something?

    To those who buy off iTunes , don't you ever fear the lock in?
    Nope. I have a first gen AppleTV (component out), so I am not affected by DRM... I’m not locked in at all...
    01-23-2014 09:49 AM
  10. RavenSword's Avatar
    For video it is lock in on every platform; Google, Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft. There is nothing you can do. If you don't want to be locked in then don't buy digital videos as they will only play on one platform due to DRM rules. This isn't an issue for me personally as I am not interested in watching videos on a tiny screen when I have a large TV sitting at home.

    For music it is a totally different story. You can buy music any where and play it anywhere. I generally purchase music on AmazonMP3 or iTunes depending on which is the cheapest. I uploaded most of my personal music to Amazon's cloud storage and use their Cloud Player on my iPhone and Moto X.

    You only get locked in if you allow yourself to be locked in.
    Yes, but it's less lock in on amazon video or google code because it's accessible in more places.
    01-24-2014 12:05 AM
  11. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    This thread is almost completely non-sense.

    You title the thread "I want to keep using iOS, but fear lock in"...yet your point is not reflective of iOS, it's reflective of DRM within iTunes and the App/Music store.

    Then you create this "trap" theory. There's no trap here...there's a service offered for convenience, and outside of that, there are apps to allow you to use external file types.

    I mean honestly bud, why not just sell your iPhone and move onto something that is more fitting to your behavior. If the grass is so much greener on the other side, why stick around in this "trap" (LOL). Your posts always carry with them a very specific and obvious tone...they always do at some point or another. Why continue the charade?
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    01-24-2014 08:55 AM
  12. Fausty82's Avatar
    This thread is almost completely non-sense.

    You title the thread "I want to keep using iOS, but fear lock in"...yet your point is not reflective of iOS, it's reflective of DRM within iTunes and the App/Music store.

    Then you create this "trap" theory. There's no trap here...there's a service offered for convenience, and outside of that, there are apps to allow you to use external file types.

    I mean honestly bud, why not just sell your iPhone and move onto something that is more fitting to your behavior. If the grass is so much greener on the other side, why stick around in this "trap" (LOL). Your posts always carry with them a very specific and obvious tone...they always do at some point or another. Why continue the charade?
    ^^^^^ nailed it. Really tired of this person's waffling on every issue that (s)he posts. Buy it. Return it. Love it. Hate it. Buy it again. Return it again. All the veiled and not-so-veiled pot shots at iOS. It gets old and tiring very quickly.

    To the OP, please just pick a side and stick with something for more than 10 minutes.
    01-24-2014 09:09 AM
  13. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Honestly, it's not waffling...it's subtle trolling.

    I mean imagine going to Crackberry or Android Central and making these kinds of threads in the opposite light (where you make it very obvious you prefer iOS and you consistently downplay and create critical "issues" within the products that the community is based upon). I can't be the only person who sees it...every...single...time.
    01-24-2014 09:16 AM
  14. Fausty82's Avatar
    Honestly, it's not waffling...it's subtle trolling.

    I mean imagine going to Crackberry or Android Central and making these kinds of threads in the opposite light (where you make it very obvious you prefer iOS and you consistently downplay and create critical "issues" within the products that the community is based upon). I can't be the only person who sees it...every...single...time.
    When I see the user name, my eyes glaze over ... you’re probably correct, Sean.
    01-24-2014 09:39 AM
  15. RavenSword's Avatar
    Honestly, it's not waffling...it's subtle trolling.

    I mean imagine going to Crackberry or Android Central and making these kinds of threads in the opposite light (where you make it very obvious you prefer iOS and you consistently downplay and create critical "issues" within the products that the community is based upon). I can't be the only person who sees it...every...single...time.
    So, your saying I should blindly love everything about the phone? Why? You can like something and still be critical of it, anything less is just fanboy dillusion. Do I hate ios and iPhone or Apple?, no of course not. But I can be critical of their faults and the things they don't do well.

    It's not trolling , it's being critical . And honestly you two seem to be the only ones that have a issue with it . Don't like it? Then don't reply. Simple. It's not like your contributing anything to the topic anyway.
    01-26-2014 11:42 PM
  16. Beyond Fire's Avatar
    I only purchase music off of iTunes and movies/shows are blu rays, so lock in is not a worry for me. Honestly unless your someone who prefers to be on one platform only theb you could always have the best of both worlds.


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    01-27-2014 12:09 AM
  17. RavenSword's Avatar
    I only purchase music off of iTunes and movies/shows are blu rays, so lock in is not a worry for me. Honestly unless your someone who prefers to be on one platform only theb you could always have the best of both worlds.





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    Yeah, I'm probaly just gonna buy physical from now on. I'm having a similar debate wether or not to buy digital or physical discs for my ps4.
    01-27-2014 12:43 AM
  18. Speedygi's Avatar
    Don't buy content from Apple's online services then, you can't get locked in if you don't invest in the ecosystem.. It's not like you would be forced to buy Apple stuff just because you are on an IPhone.

    I give you an example, I have a Galaxy s4 but I never buy Google's books, and I go for Amazon's books instead...

    Just because you are using an operating system closer to that ecosystem does not mean you need to go buy those things at all.

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    01-27-2014 02:24 AM
  19. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I spend money on my android, I spend money on my iPhone. I don't feel trapped. I have the luxury of being able to buy things. That's enough to make me happy. =)
    EmceeGeek and iRiidium like this.
    01-27-2014 06:41 AM
  20. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    If you ever think about switching, there is an app to transfer all of your iTunes purchases to your new Android device.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...roid.app&hl=en
    01-27-2014 07:42 AM
  21. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I don't fear lock in because at the end of the day its a luxury. If I lose anything I buy and I feel like I needed it, I'll just buy it again. No big deal for me....and yes I have a huge collection of movies, books and music in iTunes & in Amazon. Its material stuff, I won't die if I lose it!
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    01-29-2014 10:31 PM
  22. Fit24's Avatar
    I don't worry about being locked in. I buy and use whatever I feel is convenient and a good value for me. If I decide to change or go in a different direction, I'll adjust like I've always done. 😊


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    01-30-2014 01:59 AM
  23. cardfan's Avatar
    I only purchase music off of iTunes and movies/shows are blu rays, so lock in is not a worry for me. Honestly unless your someone who prefers to be on one platform only theb you could always have the best of both worlds.


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    You're locked in as well. That bluray is 1080p. In a few years that will be old news as new standards take hold. 4k is already emerging. In a decade, you'll look at those blurays like we currently look at vhs tapes. Relics.

    When it comes to video, you're buying for a short useful life. Paying 20 dollars a movie is nuts unless you plan on watching it over and over the next 5 years (like a kids movie). Rent or stream. If itunes didn't sort by resolution, I'd be more interested. The only movies I bought were very long ago and they're not the HD versions (I'm not rebuying HD versions). If I had the choice of which resolution movie to stream or download that I purchased, it'd be more future proof.
    01-30-2014 08:13 AM
  24. Speedygi's Avatar
    You're locked in as well. That bluray is 1080p. In a few years that will be old news as new standards take hold. 4k is already emerging. In a decade, you'll look at those blurays like we currently look at vhs tapes. Relics.

    When it comes to video, you're buying for a short useful life. Paying 20 dollars a movie is nuts unless you plan on watching it over and over the next 5 years (like a kids movie). Rent or stream. If itunes didn't sort by resolution, I'd be more interested. The only movies I bought were very long ago and they're not the HD versions (I'm not rebuying HD versions). If I had the choice of which resolution movie to stream or download that I purchased, it'd be more future proof.
    Interesting you say this, when people still buy vinyl records, old video games and vintage comic books in this day and age...

    The point you are making is that they have a short useful life, I have a heartfelt argument that the useful life of these things can be longer than you think they are. I still use my old records and listen to them on a daily basis. CDs have been around for a good long time but vinyl records are still a choice for many collectors.

    Blu Ray collectors will still create demand, long after 4K has been around, I'm pretty sure.
    01-30-2014 09:14 AM
  25. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    So, your saying I should blindly love everything about the phone? Why? You can like something and still be critical of it, anything less is just fanboy dillusion. Do I hate ios and iPhone or Apple?, no of course not. But I can be critical of their faults and the things they don't do well.

    It's not trolling , it's being critical . And honestly you two seem to be the only ones that have a issue with it . Don't like it? Then don't reply. Simple. It's not like your contributing anything to the topic anyway.
    What topic is there to contribute to here? All I see is a person who regularly complains or "waffles" (as it was put earlier) about Apple products...in fact, if we go back through your history of posts, I'd be willing to say MOST of your posts are of this nature. Want a contribution to this specific discussion? Here you go...I find your comments ridiculous and the idea of being "locked in" to the iPhone is hilarious and greatly misinformed.

    And I don't think anyone in any post said you should blindly follow any device or product or ANYTHING in life for that matter. That was your ridiculous deduction because you don't want to admit what your agenda here really is. Sure you can be critical of whatever you like! I'm critical of many things here on this website...I thought the Apple TV device was a piece of junk (for my uses), but you know what's different in that? I didn't sign up on this forum to simply point out faults and share critical opinion...something which defines a forum troll.

    If you consider anything less than what you've displayed on this forum "Fanboy Dillusion" (it's delusion, btw), then you obviously have a very skewed understanding of basic forum etiquette.

    Don't like it my observation? Then ignore me. Simple. (see how that works both ways bud?)
    Fausty82 likes this.
    01-31-2014 09:43 AM
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