1. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Retina Display! Full 1080p HD display! The cries of the marketers, but how important is such clarity? I have an iPhone 5 with Retina Display, I have an iPad Mini without Retina Display, and I have an old laptop with no sense of HD anywhere in the display. I have also played with some devices with full 1080p HD display screens. Are they necessary? Not by a long shot, but they look nice, and are much easier on the eyes. But is there really a difference between the 326ppi of the Retina Display and the 446ppi of full 1080p HD displays on other phones or tablets? Nope. The difference would even be subtle on a 15 inch laptop I think. I wholeheartedly believe that the only time you need full HD is with larger screens.

    Other phones have ridiculous amounts of pixels in them, but they still fail to look as good or as sharp as the display on my iPhone 5. This is because number of pixels alone doesnt equal quality, only clarity, and after a certain point its completely useless to increase the pixel count. But once youve decided on your pixel count then you need to focus on quality. You need to focus on color representation and sharpness. Watching HD video on an iPhone 5 is almost like looking through a window, and watching HD on another device with a full 1080p display is like looking through a screen and a dirty window. Thats a major flaw in my opinion.

    Theres a reason I chose Apple over the competition, and why Ive stuck with them. The quality of the displays is unmatched by the competition. Even my iPad Minis non-Retina Display is amazingly good. The text is a little harsher, and the video a little grainier, but overall it still beats out a lot of the competition. So why is there this incessant need to increase pixel counts? I dont understand it and I dont think I ever will. For smaller screens I dont think you get a better screen ratio or pixel count than Apples Retina Display, but when it comes to larger screens like laptops, TVs, and movie screens, then you do need a better ratio and higher pixel count because there is more screen to cover. Think of it like putting sugar in cereal, most people will put 1-2 tablespoons of sugar in their cereal, but a larger bowl will require more sugar. A regular bowl is like a phone or tablet, and the larger bowl is your laptops, TVs, and movie screens; the sugar is your pixel count.

    And yet, the pixel count race has reached a point where anything less than 446ppi is deemed a terrible screen. Its ludicrous, it really is. The spec race in general is asinine; Apple has proved that time and again. While phones are getting to the octa-core level, Apple is still rocking dual-core and blowing past the competition. Apple proves over and over that specs alone dont make a device. Its how you use what you have, its how the operating system runs, its what you do with the screens, its everything outside of the specs as well as the specs that make a deviceand an experience. So is there a need for Retina Displays and full 1080p displays? Sure there is, the days on non HD are over, thats why all new Apple devices get the Retina Display. Standard definition is done, but there is no need for 1080p displays on mobile devices, the screens just arent big enough for it.
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    11-10-2013 07:14 PM
  2. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    At the point my eyes can no longer see the pixels, any additional resolution is just wasted.
    11-10-2013 08:34 PM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I've been saying those things for a while. Is the retina display gorgeous? Of course, it is. Do I need it? Heck no. Is the non-retina model sufficient for my needs? You bet, but I know that doesn't apply to everyone.
    11-10-2013 10:01 PM
  4. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    It's the same way with TV's as well...you'd laugh at how Best Buy employees describe a 720p HD plasma vs. a 1080p HD plasma. I have a 1080p 60" plasma in my living room, and a 50" 720p plasma in my bedroom. Between the two TV's, while watching 99.9999999999999% of the things we watch on them, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference AT ALL. I even set them next to each other when we go the 60" just to compare, and the only time I was able to see a clear difference was on one single blu-ray disc, and that disc was Avatar. There were slight differences in some of the crisp lines and the darker colors seemed more defined amongst lighter colors. I had to sit and specifically LOOK for differences to see these things, and when I realized what I found, I laughed at the importance of some of these HD specs.

    The iPhone's screen is beautiful and perfectly high definition...anyone stuck on numbers on paper will always be the ones who critique things based on such. They'll say "Well, you're only saying it's just as good because it's obviously not...", but show me the "obvious" difference? I tell people when I buy a TV all the time to get the remote for the display unit and adjust every TV I'm looking at to the same specs, and you'd be shocked at home many times the visual specs are turned down to sell a higher priced unit...thankfully these same tactics can't be used on phones most times because consumers are already aware of the quality.
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    11-10-2013 10:59 PM
  5. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    It's the same way with TV's as well...you'd laugh at how Best Buy employees describe a 720p HD plasma vs. a 1080p HD plasma. I have a 1080p 60" plasma in my living room, and a 50" 720p plasma in my bedroom. Between the two TV's, while watching 99.9999999999999% of the things we watch on them, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference AT ALL. I even set them next to each other when we go the 60" just to compare, and the only time I was able to see a clear difference was on one single blu-ray disc, and that disc was Avatar. There were slight differences in some of the crisp lines and the darker colors seemed more defined amongst lighter colors. I had to sit and specifically LOOK for differences to see these things, and when I realized what I found, I laughed at the importance of some of these HD specs.

    The iPhone's screen is beautiful and perfectly high definition...anyone stuck on numbers on paper will always be the ones who critique things based on such. They'll say "Well, you're only saying it's just as good because it's obviously not...", but show me the "obvious" difference? I tell people when I buy a TV all the time to get the remote for the display unit and adjust every TV I'm looking at to the same specs, and you'd be shocked at home many times the visual specs are turned down to sell a higher priced unit...thankfully these same tactics can't be used on phones most times because consumers are already aware of the quality.
    I will keep that in mind when I decide to get a nice TV of my own.


    Blazin' From Mini 2 You
    11-11-2013 12:19 AM
  6. Speedygi's Avatar
    This is interesting, because I feel that sooner or later Smartphones will all be 1080p. It's not even going to be a debate. Things will seriously go that way by pure trending.
    11-11-2013 06:54 AM
  7. pkcable's Avatar
    When I had my non retina mini I did not think it made a difference, but now that I have my Air I KNOW better!
    11-13-2013 08:49 AM
  8. sting7k's Avatar
    The "retina display" effect is a function of resolution and viewing distance. On TVs 1080p is fine because when sitting on your couch your eyes cannot resolve the pixels at that distance. When viewing a 4" screen at arm's length you don't need nearly as many pixels to get the same effect. Rene did a very nice write up on this a good while back when Apple started down this retina path.

    As long as the display is above 300ppi at the average viewing distance any display is a "retina display" under the marketing term. I personally hate that term.

    To me the real debate should be screen tech; OLED vs. LCD. Pentile vs. RGB etc. That stuff. Every panel is plenty high in resolution these days.
    11-13-2013 12:33 PM

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