1. Tartarus's Avatar
    Why can't these people stop it with the fireworks?!?! I wonder how bad it is in the south. There must be crazy people in the streets.
    It's just you, not apprehending the historical value of 4th of July
    07-04-2014 10:23 PM
  2. Flow39's Avatar
    I haven't heard any fireworks in my neck of the woods, but I'm sure within the next hour, they'll be going off left and right.
    07-04-2014 10:24 PM
  3. Flow39's Avatar
    Why can't these people stop it with the fireworks?!?! I wonder how bad it is in the south. There must be crazy people in the streets.
    This is 'Murica
    07-04-2014 10:25 PM
  4. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    It's just you, not apprehending the historical value of 4th of July
    The Declaration of Independence wasn't even signed on July 4th. It was signed in August.
    07-04-2014 10:26 PM
  5. Tartarus's Avatar
    The Declaration of Independence wasn't even signed on July 4th. It was signed in August.
    See below
    07-04-2014 10:27 PM
  6. Tartarus's Avatar
    Last edited 8 hours ago by Brentdax
    United States Declaration of Independence
    United States Declaration of Independence
    1823 facsimile of the engrossed copy
    1823 facsimile of the engrossed copy
    CreatedJuneJuly 1776
    RatifiedJuly 4, 1776
    LocationEngrossed copy: National Archives
    Rough draft: Library of Congress
    Author(s)Thomas Jefferson et al. (Engrosser: Probably Timothy Matlack)
    Signatories56 delegates to the Continental Congress
    PurposeTo announce and explain separation from Great Britain[1]
    The Declaration of Independence is the usual name of a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with Great Britain, regarded themselves as thirteen newly independent sovereign states, and no longer a part of the British Empire. Instead they formed a new nationthe United States of America. John Adams was a leader in pushing for independence, which was unanimously approved on July 2. A committee of five had already drafted the formal declaration, to be ready when Congress voted on independence. The term "Declaration of Independence" is not used in the document itself.

    Adams persuaded the committee to select Thomas Jefferson to compose the original draft of the document,[2] which congress would edit to produce the final version. The Declaration was ultimately a formal explanation of why Congress had voted on July 2 to declare independence from Great Britain, more than a year after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War. The national birthday, the Independence Day is celebrated on July 4, although Adams wanted July 2.

    After ratifying the text on July 4, Congress issued the Declaration of Independence in several forms. It was initially published as the printed Dunlap broadside that was widely distributed and read to the public. The source copy used for this printing has been lost, and may have been a copy in Thomas Jefferson's hand.[3] Jefferson's original draft, complete with changes made by John Adams and Benjamin Franklin, and Jefferson's notes of changes made by Congress, are preserved at the Library of Congress. The most famous version of the Declaration, a signed copy that is popularly regarded as the official document, is displayed at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. This engrossed copy was ordered by Congress on July 19, and signed primarily on August 2.[4][5]

    The sources and interpretation of the Declaration have been the subject of much scholarly inquiry. The Declaration justified the independence of the United States by listing colonial grievances against King George III, and by asserting certain natural and legal rights, including a right of revolution. Having served its original purpose in announcing independence, references to the text of the Declaration were few for the next four score years. Abraham Lincoln made it the centerpiece of his rhetoric (as in the Gettysburg Address of 1863), and his policies. Since then, it has become a well-known statement on human rights, particularly its second sentence:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    This has been called "one of the best-known sentences in the English language",[6] containing "the most potent and consequential words in American history".[7] The passage came to represent a moral standard to which the United States should strive. This view was notably promoted by Abraham Lincoln, who considered the Declaration to be the foundation of his political philosophy, and argued that the Declaration is a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted.[8] It provided inspiration to numerous national declarations of independence throughout the world.
    07-04-2014 10:29 PM
  7. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    See below
    Approved, but not signed. Wikipedia isn't a reliable source.
    07-04-2014 10:33 PM
  8. Tartarus's Avatar
    Approved, but not signed. Wikipedia isn't a reliable source.
    What part of signed on August 2nd don't you understand?
    07-04-2014 10:37 PM
  9. DroidArmy's Avatar
    I can't wait until I get home and I can use my own wifi network. I'm barely pulling 1 Mbps down on Minnesota's wifi. It took me 3 minutes just to load this thread
    07-04-2014 10:41 PM
  10. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    What part of signed on August 2nd don't you understand?
    It was approved on the 4th of July.
    07-04-2014 10:45 PM
  11. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    I can't wait until I get home and I can use my own wifi network. I'm barely pulling 1 Mbps down on Minnesota's wifi. It took me 3 minutes just to load this thread
    I lived with 2MBPS internet since '05. Get over it.
    07-04-2014 10:45 PM
  12. Tartarus's Avatar
    It was approved on the 4th of July.
    Tell that to the millions Americans, celebrating it today
    07-04-2014 10:46 PM
  13. Tartarus's Avatar
    My internet is faster then that of you two in square
    07-04-2014 10:46 PM
  14. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Tell that to the millions Americans, celebrating it today
    But still... History is confusing.
    07-04-2014 10:46 PM
  15. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    My internet is faster then that of you two in quadrant
    You get 200MBPS. You said that you got 300.
    07-04-2014 10:47 PM
  16. Tartarus's Avatar
    But still... History is confusing.
    That's because you're just a kid and haven't made history on your own yet😉
    07-04-2014 10:48 PM
  17. DroidArmy's Avatar
    I lived with 2MBPS internet since '05. Get over it.
    I'm used to 20+ Mbps down! I can't imagine how you got anything done with that network
    07-04-2014 10:48 PM
  18. Tartarus's Avatar
    You get 200MBPS. You said that you got 300.
    I always said 200
    07-04-2014 10:48 PM
  19. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    I'm used to 20+ Mbps down! I can't imagine how you got anything done with that network
    I can't believe I lived with that when I got 25MBPS+.
    07-04-2014 10:49 PM
  20. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    I always said 200
    You said 300... Or I must've misread everything.
    07-04-2014 10:49 PM
  21. Tartarus's Avatar
    You said 300... Or I must've misread everything.
    Quote my post where I say 300
    07-04-2014 10:50 PM
  22. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    I misread it. My bad.
    07-04-2014 10:50 PM
  23. DroidArmy's Avatar
    AT&T to the rescue!
    The last post wins!-imageuploadedbytapatalk1404528644.016245.jpg
    I'm burning through my data plan like a mad man
    07-04-2014 10:50 PM
  24. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Quote my post where I say 300
    You just said "300".
    07-04-2014 10:51 PM
  25. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    AT&T to the rescue!
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    I'm burning through my data plan like a mad man
    How much do you have?
    07-04-2014 10:51 PM
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