1. Guacho's Avatar
    this would be a great observation 20 years ago, but let's be realistic here. when you own a smartphone and can afford the voice/data plans you are on a different level

    IF $20 (a month) will make or break an individual then they might be living above their means
    Disagree, unless you are donald trump you always gotta have a spending limit with cell phones, I pay 133 for two iphones which is not bad, I wouldn't feel comfortable going over 180 or 90 per phone, yours could be different, but at one point you need to do something if your cellphone bill keeps going up.. and that's when 20 dollars a month becomes a big deal to many people..
    05-08-2012 12:29 PM
  2. Guacho's Avatar
    Except you aren't paying $262 at one time, it's spread out over time. Just like those commercials that say if you switch to X energy company, you could save 100 a year in electricity. 100 bucks a year? Dumb. Save me 100 bucks a month (my bill isn't that high, just a random number) and then I'll be interested, but not a year.
    Paying 20 a month makes sense if you text a lot, but why would I pay 520 dollars extra on my two year contract for just text messages?? It doesn't add any value since I do fine with imessage and google voice, with that money my two iphones get paid and still have some money left for starbucks and burger king...see my point ?? I know you dont but anyway...

    20 dollars a month is 240 per year, regardless of how you see it.
    05-08-2012 03:06 PM
  3. ghostface147's Avatar
    Paying 20 a month makes sense if you text a lot, but why would I pay 520 dollars extra on my two year contract for just text messages?? It doesn't add any value since I do fine with imessage and google voice, with that money my two iphones get paid and still have some money left for starbucks and burger king...see my point ?? I know you dont but anyway...

    20 dollars a month is 240 per year, regardless of how you see it.
    And $240 spread out over a year is nothing. If someone is struggling making those payments, they shouldn't be using a smartphone. Just like my dad who sees clients and they are trying to get state assistance and they are driving later model mercedes. They are clearly living out of their means. This isn't to say you are of course.
    05-08-2012 05:56 PM
  4. CH1N087's Avatar
    I get what people are saying about "it's only $20", "you may be living outside you're means". Regardless, this applies to any and everyone, even if you are doing well, WHY SHOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THROWING MONEY AWAY?! Shouldn't this be where everyone agrees? I get it. This is a forum, not some global movement against greedy carriers, but why would anyone be okay with throwing their (I'm assuming hard earned paycheck) away? Hell yes customers should be pi$$ed! Who the $@?! Are you? complaining about losing a bit of money while you sit in your CEO chair? Yea, it's a business. There isn't a blank check. Still though. The fact is that people ARE getting robbed by carriers and I'm sure it's not just smartphone owners.
    05-08-2012 08:19 PM
  5. ghostface147's Avatar
    I get what people are saying about "it's only $20", "you may be living outside you're means". Regardless, this applies to any and everyone, even if you are doing well, WHY SHOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THROWING MONEY AWAY?! Shouldn't this be where everyone agrees? I get it. This is a forum, not some global movement against greedy carriers, but why would anyone be okay with throwing their (I'm assuming hard earned paycheck) away? Hell yes customers should be pi$$ed! Who the $@?! Are you? complaining about losing a bit of money while you sit in your CEO chair? Yea, it's a business. There isn't a blank check. Still though. The fact is that people ARE getting robbed by carriers and I'm sure it's not just smartphone owners.
    Because I am fortunate enough to be in a situation where I can throw limited money away. Not tens of thousands of course, but I don't care about a few hundred a year.
    05-08-2012 08:36 PM
  6. Quis89's Avatar
    Only AT&T subscribers have conversations like these...
    Just switch to Sprint...everything is included (internet, text, etc. and unlimited). And its probably cheaper than a lot of your AT&T plans...of course then you must make sure your coverage is suitable. But once network vision is completed it will be pretty sweet.
    05-08-2012 08:55 PM
  7. ghostface147's Avatar
    Only AT&T subscribers have conversations like these...
    Just switch to Sprint...everything is included (internet, text, etc. and unlimited). And its probably cheaper than a lot of your AT&T plans...of course then you must make sure your coverage is suitable. But once network vision is completed it will be pretty sweet.
    Sprint coverage is strong where I work, but the speeds are garbage, That as well as no simultaneous voice and data. I do agree their prices are excellent.
    05-08-2012 09:00 PM
  8. Quis89's Avatar
    Sprint coverage is strong where I work, but the speeds are garbage, That as well as no simultaneous voice and data. I do agree their prices are excellent.
    I guess you kind of get what you pay for, lol. Fortunately for me the coverage is great where I frequent and for anywhere that my data is slow I can connect to WiFi.
    05-08-2012 09:46 PM
  9. Duvi's Avatar
    Then he wouldn't be costing them anything would he? Not that text messaging is a big bandwidth sucking expense for carriers anyway. The carriers remind me of the music industry, maybe one day Apple will take wireless into the current century too.
    Yes! Instead of having an SMS plan, he dropped it. So yeah, those $10/mo for every 10 customers is a lot of cash being lost by AT&T.
    05-08-2012 11:33 PM
  10. EmceeGeek's Avatar
    if i were apple i would make him wish he put his foot in his mouth. last time i checked, the iPhone was the phone bringing in the bucks! no one can help the fact that they're money hungry and greedy. they already overcharge for everything, and now they're throttling people with unlimited data; they're just ruining themselves.
    05-09-2012 12:34 AM
  11. bobbob1016's Avatar
    Yes god forbid a company would want more revenue.
    Better way to say it is that he's complaining that he can't compete with a free market. People don't want to pay for AT&T's overpriced texting, so now they have to actually compete. Something similar to this I guess AT&T Messages App - Android Messaging App - Wireless from AT&T
    05-10-2012 08:10 AM
  12. rewNATION's Avatar
    I'd be upset too if I was him. It's a business people, and like any business that you run you hate to see a loss of revenue.
    05-10-2012 12:54 PM
  13. Adawg1203's Avatar
    if i were apple i would make him wish he put his foot in his mouth. last time i checked, the iPhone was the phone bringing in the bucks! no one can help the fact that they're money hungry and greedy. they already overcharge for everything, and now they're throttling people with unlimited data; they're just ruining themselves.
    Bringing in the bucks for who? ATT? No, the iPhone is bringing in the bucks for Apple who's revenue streams are continuously increasing. Remember, carriers subsidize the iPhone so, there is no enormous profits upfront.
    05-10-2012 08:10 PM
  14. sting7k's Avatar
    if i were apple i would make him wish he put his foot in his mouth. last time i checked, the iPhone was the phone bringing in the bucks! no one can help the fact that they're money hungry and greedy. they already overcharge for everything, and now they're throttling people with unlimited data; they're just ruining themselves.
    When did it become wrong for a business to want to make money? Everyone wants more money, always. Don't lie, you want more yourself; maybe to buy a new iPad.

    If you feel this way why do you pay your bill every month? I've said here before and I'll say it again. Ralph isn't readying this forum or any tech blog out there. The only voice you have with them is your wallet. Every time you pay your bill you are telling them "I love your service!"; literally. If you feel you are over charged why do you continue to buy their service? I'd wager you don't buy gas at Exxon when the Shell or what ever across the street is 5 cents a gallon less.

    I disagree that they are ruining themselves because you and everyone else keep sending in your checks every month right on time and AT&T keeps taking them right to the bank. How is that a ruined company when you have 100+ million paying subscribers and billions in profit nearly every quarter?
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    05-10-2012 08:47 PM
  15. Adawg1203's Avatar
    People do not be mad at ATT for wanting to protect their business.

    Someone name me a business who's model is to decrease revenue? That's right, those companies are out of business, or close to it. Anyone seeing what's happening with RIM right now? Where is there revenue now compared to several years ago?

    So, do not be mad at ATT for trying to keep their business from eroding.
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    05-10-2012 08:52 PM
  16. sherlock's Avatar
    That wasn't a good example. DropBox doesn't have an official client for windows phone, nor does Google with Google Drive. Heck, I can't think of any one aside from Microsoft's own, of the popular ones.
    Huh? Why would I care about windows phone?


    Sent from my iPad2 using Tapatalk
    05-11-2012 12:48 AM
  17. Duvi's Avatar
    Huh? Why would I care about windows phone?


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    If you don't get it, you probably won't after an explanation. carry on
    05-11-2012 01:24 AM
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