1. Jeremy's Avatar
    Thought I'd interject here. AT&T has no plans that Ive been made aware of to take away unlimited data after a contract expires. None. Zero. Nada

    People out of contract are at a higher risk of churn, it wouldn't make sense to actively kick them out the door. It would make sense to show them the benefits they're getting by staying with AT&T, a la Unlimited Data.
    Exactly correct. You will not be booted if you have the plan regardless if you are under contract or not. I'd you have it, you will keep it. If you are one of those who push your luck with a ton of data usage you will get a friendly warning but they will not just take it away without notice.

    Now what is a possibility is if you switched over to LTE, when that becomes available, you get forced to a tiered plan. Then again you could transfer your unlimited to HSPA+ plans so maybe not...
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 08-18-2011 at 03:08 PM.
    08-18-2011 02:55 PM
  2. Eileen89's Avatar
    Now what is a possibility is if you switched over to LTE, when that becomes available, you get forced to a tiered plan. Then again you could transfer your unlimited to HSPA+ plans so maybe not...
    For the moment I think it's safe to say that AT&T won't remove unlimited data plans even if we did switch to LTE. Verizon let their unlimited data plan customers keep their unlimited plan even after switching to a LTE device. Seeing as how it's a carrier see carrier do world these days, I think AT&T will follow the same practice for now....


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    08-18-2011 05:31 PM
  3. Jeremy's Avatar
    For the moment I think it's safe to say that AT&T won't remove unlimited data plans even if we did switch to LTE. Verizon let their unlimited data plan customers keep their unlimited plan even after switching to a LTE device. Seeing as how it's a carrier see carrier do world these days, I think AT&T will follow the same practice for now....


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    I tend to agree with you otherwise it would be possible that many customers would walk away.
    08-18-2011 09:33 PM
  4. Fausty82's Avatar
    I tend to agree with you otherwise it would be possible that many customers would walk away.
    I'm not 100% sure that's true.

    If AT&T considers unlimited data a contract feature, then yes, we could all walk (where are we gonna go?). If it is considered an add-on (we are paying extra fees for data, unlimited or otherwise), I'd say it would not constitute an adverse material breach of the contract. We can add/remove data plans or change plans at will. (Yeah, I know the part about a smartphone and a mandatory data plan, but we can pick any one we want, or downgrade to a non-smartphone and drop data altogether, without any impact on our contract status.)

    But either way, I don't see AT&T changing it anytime soon.

    But I'm not a lawyer, don't play one on TV and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I could be wrong.
    Last edited by Fausty82; 08-18-2011 at 10:22 PM.
    08-18-2011 10:20 PM
  5. xvision's Avatar
    Have you tried using DataMan Pro to track your data usage?
    09-03-2011 02:01 PM
  6. Milenkod's Avatar
    This is total BS. I spoke to someone at the AT&T Specialist dept (whatever that is) over the weekend and told me that they are working to correct this with more bandwidth, towers, backbone ect... I told them I didn't believe that hogwash.

    The disturbing part is that there is no way for AT&T to prove you are in the 5%. What's even more BS is that 2GB plan subscribers are the base of that calculation. So when you go over 2GB on an Unlimited plan, you are automatically red-flagged. It was designed to fail your Unlimited plan from the get go.
    This IS a cardinal change to your plan.
    12-07-2011 12:16 PM
  7. rallen65's Avatar
    Yeah, I have to disagree with this. I can renew my contract right now and transfer over my existing unlimited plan.

    And regards to throttling. I don't think it is that big of a deal honestly. I use 8-10 gig a month and think I will be fine. People who use a tremendous amount of data might be hit but those are people who tethering a lot of prime targets I believe. For the record I never tether.
    I spoke with a customer service rep yesterday after receiving that 5% message, I asked them what they consider top 5% and for unlimited data plans like I am on she said anything over 2 GB puts you in the top 5% for an unlimited plan.

    Honestly thinking of switching to sprint when my 2 yrs is up in June 2012.
    12-07-2011 12:43 PM
  8. xxDruMMer BoYxx's Avatar
    I spoke with a customer service rep yesterday after receiving that 5% message, I asked them what they consider top 5% and for unlimited data plans like I am on she said anything over 2 GB puts you in the top 5% for an unlimited plan.

    Honestly thinking of switching to sprint when my 2 yrs is up in June 2012.
    Havent seen anyone post this up...so let me be the first to tell you that is not true at all. For awhile i thought if you went over the 2gb, as everyone had experienced, you got the text of being Mr. 5%....till this morning...I emailed Rene Ritchie about this....see picture below...

    (Dont Mind what i wrote back..was just having a little fun..)


    Now you must think...oh well its cuz you went over your 2gb...nope..


    I have an unlimited data plan...and i got this under the 2gb point...
    12-07-2011 01:16 PM
  9. smileyboy's Avatar
    Does this break the TOC?
    12-07-2011 02:01 PM
  10. xxDruMMer BoYxx's Avatar
    Does this break the TOC?
    i dont understand....TOC?
    12-07-2011 02:28 PM
  11. smileyboy's Avatar
    Sorry meant TOS terms of service


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    12-07-2011 03:26 PM
  12. Eileen89's Avatar
    Does this break the TOC?
    Do you mean, AT&T is breaking the TOS? If so, I think they are, especially if they are slowing down unlimited data use after or shortly before 2BG of data usage.....


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    12-07-2011 04:45 PM
  13. Milenkod's Avatar
    I spoke with a customer service rep yesterday after receiving that 5% message, I asked them what they consider top 5% and for unlimited data plans like I am on she said anything over 2 GB puts you in the top 5% for an unlimited plan.

    Honestly thinking of switching to sprint when my 2 yrs is up in June 2012.
    I can attest to that fact. I received the message as I was approaching 2GB of data. There are either no users using 10GB+ on their data plans or this 5% BS is a complete lie....or they are using all 2GB plan subscribers as the base for their calculation....which would put any use over 2GB as a "heavy" data user. I have never gone over 5GB on my Unlimited plan. I routinely go between 3GB to 4GB range...so how am I in the 5%? When I called and asked them to prove that I am in the 5% of heaviest data users, they couldn't. I told them consider me a cancelled account, along with my 5 other iPhones in my Family Plan in June. This is a scam.
    Last edited by Milenkod; 12-07-2011 at 05:03 PM.
    12-07-2011 05:01 PM
  14. johndhynes's Avatar
    Havent seen anyone post this up...so let me be the first to tell you that is not true at all. For awhile i thought if you went over the 2gb, as everyone had experienced, you got the text of being Mr. 5%....till this morning...I emailed Rene Ritchie about this....see picture below...
    Read my post from two weeks ago. You get that warning first before you hit the cap, when you're "approaching" 5%. Then after you go over 2GB you get another text and you're throttled.

    Last month it was 11GB. What will it be next month?
    12-07-2011 06:56 PM
  15. xxDruMMer BoYxx's Avatar
    Read my post from two weeks ago. You get that warning first before you hit the cap, when you're "approaching" 5%. Then after you go over 2GB you get another text and you're throttled.

    Last month it was 11GB. What will it be next month?
    I would agree with you...but the thing is...I got that message last month at 1.8 GB which makes sense with your theory...but this month I got it wayyyyy to early. I'm just saying....it's getting ridiculous because as the previous post said...I usually only use about 3gb to 4gb max. If theirs anyone that should be getting that text is you Johnhynes no offense. lol but even at that....if you got unlimited like what the heck you know....
    I'm bout to call them up and tell them to leave me alone or I'm canceling. Lol 10+ years with AT&T and I'm getting this service. Nah nah. Lol
    12-08-2011 07:26 PM
  16. BrindawithanI's Avatar
    Do you mean, AT&T is breaking the TOS? If so, I think they are, especially if they are slowing down unlimited data use after or shortly before 2BG of data usage.....


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    Agreed. This is BS! I pay for unlimited and I expect to get unlimited at the same d@mn speed as everyone else or I'm outa there. 10/20/30gb of use I get. They didn't "expect" people to use that much... but 2gb?! Get real AT&T!
    Last edited by BrindawithanI; 12-08-2011 at 08:01 PM.
    12-08-2011 07:55 PM
  17. xxDruMMer BoYxx's Avatar
    Just reached the 2gb mark...and Internet is slow as heck. I've heard of this before from other posts...and man is it obvious.
    12-10-2011 11:40 PM
  18. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    This month I've used 2.4GB on my unlimited plan and never got a text or anything. But I went over 2GB with about 5 days left in my billing cycle. I didn't hit 2GB within 2 days of my billing cycle. I have no problem with the throttling but I wish it was like T-Mobile's. Everyone should be throttled after reaching 5GB. If you use more than that than you deserve to be throttled because obviously your streaming netflix. They have to do this in order to make sure everyone has good speeds. People need to get on WIFI more, and I hate the ones that say I don't have it everywhere because practically everywhere has WIFI nowadays.
    12-14-2011 01:54 PM
  19. DannyFresh's Avatar
    I Just received the famous free message from AT&T: "Your data use this month places you in the to 5% of users. Use Wi-Fi to help avoid reduced speeds." Funny thing is I am only at about 2GB of data. There have been previous months where I have used in excess of 3GB and never got the warning before. Does this mean that AT&T is lowering the "imaginary" cap on customers of grandfarthered unlinited data plans.
    12-18-2011 10:49 AM
  20. johndhynes's Avatar
    Does this mean that AT&T is lowering the "imaginary" cap on customers of grandfarthered unlinited data plans.
    Yes. Last month it was 11GB. This month it's 2. As the top 5% get throttled, the cap gets lower, because they're all forced to use less.

    Welcome to the 5%.
    12-19-2011 06:36 AM
  21. johndhynes's Avatar
    ...If you use more than that than you deserve to be throttled because obviously your streaming netflix. They have to do this in order to make sure everyone has good speeds. People need to get on WIFI more, and I hate the ones that say I don't have it everywhere because practically everywhere has WIFI nowadays
    I drive for a livIng. How am I supposed to get on wifi? I certainly don't watch Netflix behind the wheel. As it is now, I have a hard time getting Google Map to work.

    Data caps do not work. The problem is not people who use a lot of data, it's that a lot people tend to use it at the same time. There is no network congestion when I'm using my iPhone late at night/early morning. See the article at Boing Boing.
    12-19-2011 06:52 AM
  22. stoneland's Avatar
    Why are people whining so much? You ARE getting unlimited data...it's just not all at the same speed. Maybe you should take the throttling as a lesson and use Wifi more, for example, or use your phone less. And even if you do go over 2.0 GB or whatever, you still have data access, no? It's not like AT&T removes that completely.
    12-19-2011 04:24 PM
  23. snowmon's Avatar
    Why are people whining so much? You ARE getting unlimited data...it's just not all at the same speed. Maybe you should take the throttling as a lesson and use Wifi more, for example, or use your phone less. And even if you do go over 2.0 GB or whatever, you still have data access, no? It's not like AT&T removes that completely.
    First off, if your being throttled you are not on unlimited. When it comes to WiFi that is great if it is there for the most part the only WiFi I have is at the house. If I'm at the house I'm surely not going to to use my phone I have a laptop. This is AT&T way of doing away with the unlimited plan. This month they slow you down after a given amount of useage then a month or two later they knock it down even more because you are still in the top 5%. I dropped AT&T for my home service many years ago because of their business practices and trying to rip you off. I swore then when I dumped them I wouldn't go back to them and I never have. The only reason I have wireless with them is because they bought the company I had wireless with and up untill now has treated me right. AT&T is the same thief that they where years ago. Just like my home service when I'm gone I am gone. As far as I am concerned AT&T can kiss my A******
    03-13-2012 09:46 AM
  24. vietalogy's Avatar
    Why are people whining so much? You ARE getting unlimited data...it's just not all at the same speed. Maybe you should take the throttling as a lesson and use Wifi more, for example, or use your phone less. And even if you do go over 2.0 GB or whatever, you still have data access, no? It's not like AT&T removes that completely.
    How should people take it as a lesson? I paid for unlimited and never once tethered or did any heavy streaming. There's NO wifi at my job so I use my mobile. When we got our unlimited plan the terms didn't say anything about being throttled. AT&T should have build up their network to handle all the users.

    AT&T should offer the iPhone with NO data plan because 4 out 5 iPhones on my plan use less then 200mb. So this is proof that AT&T is robbing their customers.


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  25. Gixxer07's Avatar
    Or it's proof that people cry and whine too much
    03-13-2012 12:38 PM
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