1. mo98's Avatar
    Is this change only for iphone data plans, or does it apply to all smartphone data plans on at&t?
    06-02-2010 10:57 AM
  2. Growat's Avatar
    Yesss. I will have a grandfathered iphone plan, but not an ipad plan, thats coming this summer hopefully
    Sounds like grandfathering only applies to iPads.

    "iPad owners can keep the old plan"
    06-02-2010 11:06 AM
  3. ugahairydawgs's Avatar
    Is this change only for iphone data plans, or does it apply to all smartphone data plans on at&t?
    Across the board for all smart phones.
    06-02-2010 11:12 AM
  4. Ipheuria's Avatar
    What I find funny is why even bother offering the 200MB plan? if you go over you pay another $15 for 200MB so for $30 the same you would have paid for unlimited and less than the $25 you would have paid for 2GB you just got 400MB?? not even half a GB that math does not compute. If you know your usage and once you hit your limit you would not be able to use data until the next month it kinda makes a bit of sense. I guess that's just me
    06-02-2010 11:20 AM
  5. ghostface147's Avatar
    What I find funny is why even bother offering the 200MB plan?
    My parents would never use that amount if they got a smartphone. It would be perfect for them. Then again, they don't even know how to text.
    06-02-2010 11:46 AM
  6. ugahairydawgs's Avatar
    What I find funny is why even bother offering the 200MB plan?
    200MB is perfect for me. In fact I'll probably never even sniff using my monthly quota.
    06-02-2010 11:53 AM
  7. whmurray's Avatar
    Data is not really my problem, voice is. $25- for 2G suits me fine. I have rarely exceeded 1G and my usage on the iPhone is going down as my usage on the iPad goes up. When tethering kicks in, I will drop data on the iPad and use the iPhone to connect the iPad, as I do now with my Verizon Mifi. [I have data on the iPad only because one day I could not register on WiFi and Verizon was slow. That's right, in lower Manhattan, at least on that day, AT&T beat hell out of Verizon.]

    My problem is with voice. 450 minutes, without A-list, is not near enough, and 900 with A-List is way too much.
    06-02-2010 11:54 AM
  8. whmurray's Avatar
    I suggest that everyone look at their past usage before they judge the new plans. Most of us come no where near 2G.
    06-02-2010 11:56 AM
  9. whmurray's Avatar
    Tethering is a big deal for me. I can drop data on my iPad and drop my Verizon MiFi.
    06-02-2010 11:57 AM
  10. whmurray's Avatar
    I think that being able to change plans without resetting your contract is a big deal. I think that e-mail notices as one approaches one's max usage is also a big deal.

    While AT&T has shut down accounts that were running up hundreds of dollars in data roaming charges, they have often sand-bagged.
    06-02-2010 12:01 PM
  11. cjvitek's Avatar
    With an unlimited data plan, paying for tethering makes sense. You will use more data, and since you aren't paying extra for that data, you pay extra for the option to use it in that fashion.

    But with a limited data plan, tethering should be free. I get 2GB - period. Why does AT&T care if I use that 2GB streaming video, sending email, or tethering to my computer?

    Yes, I know it is just so they can make more money...but still.

    Chris
    06-02-2010 12:06 PM
  12. whmurray's Avatar
    Those who follow this forum know that I have been a consistent critic of AT&T's pricing and business practices. It is funny to find myself being one of the few to defend this change. I find this change very un-AT&T-like. It is far less defensive, more consistent with real use, and far more consumer tolerant, not to say, friendly.
    06-02-2010 12:06 PM
  13. west3man's Avatar
    As I said on the TiPb blog post, 2 out of 3 AT&T reps said the iPad 3G plan is NOT changing. They were unmoved by quotes from website articles that do not link to direct AT&T webpage content confirmation. I could find not such corroboration (but, to be fair, I couldn't find it regarding ANY change in their 3G plans for iPhones, even).

    Unless I am missing something, even the article in the first post of this thread lacks a link to the AT&T site or even to the source of the article the op reprinted in it's entirety.

    This is some sorry *** journalism, communication, or whatever you want to call it. If I am missing something, feel free to call me on it, but I have combed th TiPb, PC World, and Mac Rumors sites in search of an AT&T link but I came up with nothing but a series of links to their own articles (or NO links) that only spoke to the past, not the rumored changes.

    AT&T's not much better, though, because I have received conflicting information from their reps on multiple occasions, including this one. He'll, they even told me they had nothing to do with the iPad and that I should call Apple.

    No one should have to go through all this to find out if they are being screwed over. (And yes, even those of us who are "grandfathered" are being screwed over if we can't cancel our plans and then retrieve exactly as described at the time the device launched.)
    06-02-2010 12:21 PM
  14. whmurray's Avatar
    With an unlimited data plan, paying for tethering makes sense. You will use more data, and since you aren't paying extra for that data, you pay extra for the option to use it in that fashion.

    But with a limited data plan, tethering should be free. I get 2GB - period. Why does AT&T care if I use that 2GB streaming video, sending email, or tethering to my computer?

    Yes, I know it is just so they can make more money...but still.

    Chris
    I agree. Since I already pay for tethering and have four devices that I may wish to tether, $20- is not a big deal for me; even with it, I will still save money. However, it seems high for nothing but the privilege.

    I think that this is a defensive move on AT&T's part. They are trying to protect the revenue from the broadband cards that they have been pushing so hard for the last few years. In my case, it is Verizon that loses revenue when I start to tether. However, for many customers, it will be AT&T that loses.

    This is just one more case of punish the iPhone users. AT&T loves the iPhone subscribers but hates their use.
    Last edited by whmurray; 06-02-2010 at 12:55 PM.
    06-02-2010 12:26 PM
  15. sangs's Avatar
    I didn't have enough posts to include the link, sorry. But the story is from The Associated Press, not just some blog.
    06-02-2010 12:41 PM
  16. big9erfan's Avatar
    I'm considering moving to the 200MB / month plan. I average 121mb a month over the last 7 months.


    *edit* removed image...didn't notice it had my #! lol
    Last edited by big9erfan; 06-07-2010 at 06:54 PM.
    06-02-2010 12:45 PM
  17. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    I like the new plans .. My wife doesn't come close to 200 megs so I get to save $15 on her plan, I use my iPhone all the time, always stream pandora on my way to work every day (30 min drive) and never come close to 2 gigs ... So I can save $5 there ... Now when the new iPhone comes out we can give my wives 3G to the daughter and I can give my wife my 3GS and not pay anymore than what we are paying now .. And my daughter get's a iPhone! Very cool if you ask me.
    06-02-2010 12:46 PM
  18. west3man's Avatar
    I didn't have enough posts to include the link, sorry. But the story is from The Associated Press, not just some blog.
    Understandable. Thanks. I Googled the title and found a Fox news article (from the AP, I assume) with not a single link to AT&T's website, confirming what I will continue to call a rumor, at this point.
    06-02-2010 12:46 PM
  19. cardfan's Avatar
    Tethering is a big deal for me. I can drop data on my iPad and drop my Verizon MiFi.
    We don't know that "tethering" means a mifi app on the iphone. I really doubt it will. If that's the case, you won't be tethering an ipad to your iphone.

    I take it to mean using USB on a PC or Mac.

    I've not seen AT&T even mention wifi tethering.
    06-02-2010 12:51 PM
  20. cardfan's Avatar
    Sounds like grandfathering only applies to iPads.

    "iPad owners can keep the old plan"
    As long as you keep it on auto renewal each month. The moment you cancel it (which was supposed to be one of the benefits of being month to month), that unlimited plan is gone.
    06-02-2010 01:05 PM
  21. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    I just checked my usage for my iPhone. I'm nowhere near the new 2 gig dataplan limit. I think 3G is a joke, so I use wifi only. 3G is fine for checking the weather and stuff, but for actual internet useage? Yeah, right. And forget Edge. I'm sure people here know my opinion on Edge.
    You must have a crappy 3G connection. My connection is fast and it provides more than enough speed to do more than "checking weather and stuff"
    06-02-2010 01:05 PM
  22. west3man's Avatar
    I just spoke to a 4th rep who said that he'd heard nothing about the rate change, but after putting me on hold, he said that it is true and thAt it applies to iPad users. He knew nothing of the grandfathering or the rest, from what I could tell.

    While on the phine with him, the previous rep called me back to say that after consulting with more managers, she has confirmed that the change is coming and will apply to iPad users.

    I told them both that this is the kind of thing that is likely to keep me from buying Apple or AT&T products in the future. I think some kind of organized boycott is in-order.
    06-02-2010 01:07 PM
  23. west3man's Avatar
    As long as you keep it on auto renewal each month. The moment you cancel it (which was supposed to be one of the benefits of being month to month), that unlimited plan is gone.
    FWIW, two AT&T reps said that you can cancel the auto-renewal as long as it doesn't last too long (where you have to be reregistered or something).

    Of course, these are the same reps who said they knew nothing about it, not long before that.
    06-02-2010 01:10 PM
  24. liveify#AC's Avatar
    Everything I have read says that if you currently have a $30 unlimited plan it will not change, as long as you don't add tethering
    06-02-2010 01:10 PM
  25. whmurray's Avatar
    We don't know that "tethering" means a mifi app on the iphone. I really doubt it will. If that's the case, you won't be tethering an ipad to your iphone.

    I take it to mean using USB on a PC or Mac.



    I've not seen AT&T even mention wifi tethering.
    I hope you are wrong. If it requires a wire, a dedicated iPhone, and an application, it is not only not worth $20/mo. it is useless. I cannot imagine why AT&T would even bother to offer such a lame solution. It could not possibly compete with 3G MiFi from Verizon and 4G from Sprint. On the other hand, no one has ever accused AT&T of being market savvy.

    The only competitive functionality would be like PDANet on a broken iPhone or on a Palm Pre, or a MiFi. These look to the tethered device just like any wireless access point and can serve more than one device at a time.
    06-02-2010 01:11 PM
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