1. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    Ya right at&t give up that much money I doubt it. Just think if there are 1 million iphone owners that upgrade att just lost out on $240 million for the life of those subscribers contracts. Do you really think they are going to do that. I bet they won't?
    It would be nice to have a little something for original iPhone owners. Maybe a year of $20 / month 3G access. Something to promote goodwill and enhance customer loyalty.
    06-10-2008 10:36 PM
  2. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    The new $30 data plan for the iPhoen 3G is that going to include txt messages? I don't know anything about their standard data plans. All I know is the 200 txt msgs that come with the iPhone.
    06-12-2008 05:48 PM
  3. taylorh's Avatar
    -EDIT-(deleting my post,) instead...
    See here: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost...8&postcount=48
    That says it best.
    06-12-2008 06:28 PM
  4. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    The new $30 data plan for the iPhoen 3G is that going to include txt messages? I don't know anything about their standard data plans. All I know is the 200 txt msgs that come with the iPhone.
    From an MSNBC article:

    Consumers with the current generation iPhone pay $20 a month for an unlimited Internet and e-mail use, and can send up to 200 text messages as part of that plan. However, those who buy the new iPhone, due out July 11, will pay $30 a month for unlimited Internet and e-mail. It is not clear yet whether text messaging will be part of that cost, or an add-on.

    “That’s part of the pricing we’ll get into more detail about as we get closer to launch date,” said Mark A. Seigel, executive director of media relations for AT&T Mobility.
    06-12-2008 06:32 PM
  5. hermdog's Avatar
    The question I have is can you use the $30 Consumer Data Plan to access a corporate Exchange server or will AT&T force you onto the $45 Enterprise Data Plan? In essence what is the difference between the two?

    I would hope that as an individual user I could use the $30 plan to connect to my work's exchange server.

    hermdog
    06-12-2008 06:34 PM
  6. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    I contacted AT&T today and I couldn't get a straight answer. The person I spoke with said they don't know anything about business plans. This is ridiculous. At this rate, we'll have to wait until the release date to find out plan specifics. I would get an iPhone at the Apple Store, I wouldn't want AT&T activating the phone and screwing it up.
    06-12-2008 09:32 PM
  7. IrishJK09's Avatar
    If you are going to use a corporate Exchange server, you need the business class data plan. That is the exact reason it exists.

    You can probably use the standard, $30 data plan, but be aware that if you get caught, At&t can hold you responsible for the pay per use data rate for all you have used.

    This is another thing that isn't iPhone specific though. It is the same with Windows Mobile and Palm devices. If you connect either of them to a corporate Exchange server without having the proper data plan and get caught, they can do the same thing.

    Chances are you can play stupid and get out of paying, but is it really worth the risk?
    06-12-2008 09:52 PM
  8. Reaktor5's Avatar
    I wonder if the launch will be similar to the original iPhone. Will the stores close up and reopen at 6PM?
    06-12-2008 10:39 PM
  9. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    I wonder if the launch will be similar to the original iPhone. Will the stores close up and reopen at 6PM?
    Yes that is what I read. Not sure how credible the story is, but it is safe to say you can file it under a rumor.
    06-12-2008 11:49 PM
  10. burnsaa's Avatar
    If you are going to use a corporate Exchange server, you need the business class data plan. That is the exact reason it exists.

    You can probably use the standard, $30 data plan, but be aware that if you get caught, At&t can hold you responsible for the pay per use data rate for all you have used.

    This is another thing that isn't iPhone specific though. It is the same with Windows Mobile and Palm devices. If you connect either of them to a corporate Exchange server without having the proper data plan and get caught, they can do the same thing.

    Chances are you can play stupid and get out of paying, but is it really worth the risk?
    I wonder what AT&T is going to do with all the people who already have iPhones with the $20 plan and then just start connecting them to their exchange servers. Its going to get ugly when some people are paying over twice as much and getting far less than the origial iPhone owners are getting with their data/ texting plan.
    06-13-2008 03:55 AM
  11. Reaktor5's Avatar
    Hmm. Another question.
    Since you're required to activate in store, what's with this penalty from not activating the phone within 30 days? Do they mean not hooking up to iTunes or what?

    I'm really bummed about this whole thing. I wonder if they'll have to open up your shiny new iPhone or activate different SIM cards for you to put in after you leave so you don't have to open up the box (maybe that's why they included a SIM ejector tool?).
    06-13-2008 02:02 PM
  12. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    Hmm. Another question.
    Since you're required to activate in store, what's with this penalty from not activating the phone within 30 days? Do they mean not hooking up to iTunes or what?

    I'm really bummed about this whole thing. I wonder if they'll have to open up your shiny new iPhone or activate different SIM cards for you to put in after you leave so you don't have to open up the box (maybe that's why they included a SIM ejector tool?).
    I agree with you. I don't want to open the box until I get home. I would want to be the first consumer (non-factory worker) to touch it. Hmmm... if they only activate a SIM card for you, it sounds like it could speed the process up. This certainly makes sense, since they don't have to open every box that is shrink-wrapped.
    06-13-2008 02:20 PM
  13. Reaktor5's Avatar
    I agree with you. I don't want to open the box until I get home. I would want to be the first consumer (non-factory worker) to touch it. Hmmm... if they only activate a SIM card for you, it sounds like it could speed the process up. This certainly makes sense, since they don't have to open every box that is shrink-wrapped.
    Or use some sort of code on the bottom of the box to enter in iTunes when you get home.
    06-13-2008 03:09 PM
  14. burnsaa's Avatar
    I think you are on to something there that has got to be the reason for the sim ejector tool. Because really who is going to want to wait in line for a bunch of people to have to rip open the boxes and dig through everything then activate it. The only thing is how would they do this at the apple store because at&t is saying that you won't leave the store be it apples or theirs without it activated. Hmm I guess we'll see
    06-13-2008 03:09 PM
  15. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    A barcode would make sense, it would certainly improve the activation process. But does it really take 10 minutes? This might be true for new customers (entering their info, etc.), but I guess it also takes that long for current customers to renew their contract. If AT&T does in fact just scan a barcode and the customer finishes activating it on iTunes, why hasn't this been communicated to customers? What are they trying to hide?
    06-14-2008 10:25 AM
  16. Reaktor5's Avatar
    A barcode would make sense, it would certainly improve the activation process. But does it really take 10 minutes? This might be true for new customers (entering their info, etc.), but I guess it also takes that long for current customers to renew their contract. If AT&T does in fact just scan a barcode and the customer finishes activating it on iTunes, why hasn't this been communicated to customers? What are they trying to hide?
    Most likely they're still working out the process with Apple, which is why there's nothing about AT&T's plans on Apple's site yet.
    06-14-2008 11:29 AM
  17. xintelinsanex's Avatar
    Most likely they're still working out the process with Apple, which is why there's nothing about AT&T's plans on Apple's site yet.
    Let's hope they come up with a process that actually don't take 10-12 minutes. I would like to see the scan the barcode idea and then finish activating at home thing. If we can get out of the store without having to open all the iPhone boxes, this will certainly cut down on the time. Another good was of doing it is assigning people activation codes that we have to input when we get home.
    06-15-2008 08:28 PM
  18. eugarps#CB's Avatar
    I have a Treo 750 3G and I'm paying $30.00 for dat, so no biggie for me either
    06-16-2008 03:28 PM
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