1. gnirkatto's Avatar
    I don't know. I received the much anticipated BFPs today. Have been using the Beats Pro since they got released.
    To me, the sound of the BFPs is disappointing, compared to the BPs. It's metallic and not as bassy as on the BPs. I compared them 1:1 with all kinds of music, and voice. I think it's instantly noticeable. Maybe not, if you don't compare them 1:1 - then the BFP may sound decent for headphones of that tiny size. Yes I tried all 3 different ear gel sizes, and all possible transparency settings, and it made no difference.
    I also miss the volume keys more than I thought (but it's understandable that they no longer fit on something that much smaller). And, I miss being able to ask Siri by pushing and holding one of the side buttons (they are now used to change noise suppression modes on the BFPs. I wasn't aware of that when ordering the BFPs). I don't have 'hey Siri' active, for reasons.
    I will carry on with some testing, but as per now, I tend to returning them and to keep my BPs.
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    01-28-2022 08:56 AM
  2. imwjl's Avatar
    It's been my experience that the BFP noise cancelation is not only different but better than the/my two years old APP, with the better fit of the BFP and two years of advancement my ears prefer the noise cancelation of BFP.

    Try this song with multiple different instruments. I actually had to turn it down going from my APP to my BFP. Excellent overall quality of sound and of course including Bass.
    [IMG=473x1024]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220127/44dd8bab51ec42ed90d4a9e9f3351d1a.jpg[/url]
    I'm a bit fan of New Mastersounds and Lack Of Afro! That produces the great definition the beats have. Too bad it's not Atmos/Spatial mixed.

    Maybe I should make an "Atmos" or "Spatial" playlist to capture the tracks made or remixed that way. They're generally outstanding with both earbuds.
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    01-28-2022 11:30 AM
  3. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I don't know. I received the much anticipated BFPs today. Have been using the Beats Pro since they got released.
    To me, the sound of the BFPs is disappointing, compared to the BPs. It's metallic and not as bassy as on the BPs. I compared them 1:1 with all kinds of music, and voice. I think it's instantly noticeable. Maybe not, if you don't compare them 1:1 - then the BFP may sound decent for headphones of that tiny size. Yes I tried all 3 different ear gel sizes, and all possible transparency settings, and it made no difference.
    I also miss the volume keys more than I thought (but it's understandable that they no longer fit on something that much smaller). And, I miss being able to ask Siri by pushing and holding one of the side buttons (they are now used to change noise suppression modes on the BFPs. I wasn't aware of that when ordering the BFPs). I don't have 'hey Siri' active, for reasons.
    I will carry on with some testing, but as per now, I tend to returning them and to keep my BPs.
    Interesting. My experience with the Powerbeats was a little different. I found them to be bulky (case, earbuds and loop), and bass heavy while overpowering vocals and other instruments, while my BFP gave me a greater overall sound while maintaining a superior bass sound as well. All (including headphones) of my Beats purchases prior to my BFP went back to the store because of the bass heavy sound and lack of vocals and other instruments, (I also listen to a large variety of different types of music) where we fast forward two years and Beats sound has improved to where I will be keeping my Beats Fit Pro. I guess I've been use to having Siri increase/decrease volume so the volume buttons on any of my tech has become obsolete..LOL
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    01-29-2022 06:53 AM
  4. gnirkatto's Avatar
    Interesting. My experience with the Powerbeats was a little different. I found them to be bulky (case, earbuds and loop), and bass heavy while overpowering vocals and other instruments, while my BFP gave me a greater overall sound while maintaining a superior bass sound as well. All (including headphones) of my Beats purchases prior to my BFP went back to the store because of the bass heavy sound and lack of vocals and other instruments, (I also listen to a large variety of different types of music) where we fast forward two years and Beats sound has improved to where I will be keeping my Beats Fit Pro. I guess I've been use to having Siri increase/decrease volume so the volume buttons on any of my tech has become obsolete..LOL
    I agree the PBs are bulky, that's why I was looking forward to the BFPs.
    Now I find the BFPs to be more fiddly to put them on than the PBs....and easier to drop! Oh well.
    I never had any other Beats than the BFP, so I can't say anything about their sound qualities...all I can say is that I find the PBs a little more bassy, but not too much. Just enough to provide a more pleasant listening experience for me!
    But I want to stress that this is a very personal assessment, the BFPs by no means sound bad, and like I said before, one may only notice a difference when comparing them directly, and even then, the BFPs may sound better for other people's ears.
    And, they are tiny, the case is small, they fit perfectly (good news for people like me who can't use Air Pods because they instantly pop out), noise suppression works well, making phone calls works well (I made a few in the meanwhile), so nobody should refrain from trying them out because of 'bad' sound quality.
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    01-29-2022 09:49 AM
  5. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    …. I guess I've been use to having Siri increase/decrease volume so the volume buttons on any of my tech has become obsolete..LOL
    “Hey Siri, increase the volume by 20%”. Works like a charm doesn’t it?…
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    01-29-2022 10:11 AM
  6. Spencerdl's Avatar
    “Hey Siri, increase the volume by 20%”. Works like a charm doesn’t it?…
    Yes it does. I also use this method on my Alexa speakers as well.
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    01-29-2022 10:24 AM
  7. imwjl's Avatar
    I agree the PBs are bulky, that's why I was looking forward to the BFPs.
    Now I find the BFPs to be more fiddly to put them on than the PBs....and easier to drop! Oh well.
    I never had any other Beats than the BFP, so I can't say anything about their sound qualities...all I can say is that I find the PBs a little more bassy, but not too much. Just enough to provide a more pleasant listening experience for me!
    But I want to stress that this is a very personal assessment, the BFPs by no means sound bad, and like I said before, one may only notice a difference when comparing them directly, and even then, the BFPs may sound better for other people's ears.
    And, they are tiny, the case is small, they fit perfectly (good news for people like me who can't use Air Pods because they instantly pop out), noise suppression works well, making phone calls works well (I made a few in the meanwhile), so nobody should refrain from trying them out because of 'bad' sound quality.
    Yesterday I played same content with AirPods Pro, the Fit Pro, older AirPods, other bud type, my Sony and B&W headphones. I know other beats from my daughter's. What the new Fit Pro are if anything is just more balanced than many of their products are and more like AirPods Pro as far as seal.

    Where the balanced nature really stood out was putting on my wired B&Ws. Those B&W didn't have the spatial audio or punchy definition but they showed the fit pro to have good overall tone.

    The Fit Pro seemed less fiddly to me after handling them differently. I pinch them from sides not touching the buttons.

    Nothing's really perfect here. I've pointed out in other posts how my winter helmets (bike, ski) can activate them more easily than others but they sure stay in and sealed compared to AirPod Pro. I can hear surroundings and don't feel plugged or pressure like some buds.

    If someone doesn't want to ask Siri to change volume, there's a perfect excuse to get an Apple Watch.
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    01-30-2022 09:13 AM
  8. gnirkatto's Avatar
    Yesterday I played same content with AirPods Pro, the Fit Pro, older AirPods, other bud type, my Sony and B&W headphones. I know other beats from my daughter's. What the new Fit Pro are if anything is just more balanced than many of their products are and more like AirPods Pro as far as seal.

    Where the balanced nature really stood out was putting on my wired B&Ws. Those B&W didn't have the spatial audio or punchy definition but they showed the fit pro to have good overall tone.

    The Fit Pro seemed less fiddly to me after handling them differently. I pinch them from sides not touching the buttons.

    Nothing's really perfect here. I've pointed out in other posts how my winter helmets (bike, ski) can activate them more easily than others but they sure stay in and sealed compared to AirPod Pro. I can hear surroundings and don't feel plugged or pressure like some buds.

    If someone doesn't want to ask Siri to change volume, there's a perfect excuse to get an Apple Watch.
    I found that all wired headphones that I tried out sounded better than any wireless headphones that I ever tried (including the Air Pods Max).
    Of course not the cheapest of the cheap wired ones. But also not top high end headphones. I usually use good quality middle class headphones in the $/€ 150-300 price range.
    So whenever I really want to sit back and actively listen to music, I always use wired headphones.

    I'm using the Beats when being too lazy to fiddle with cables, or when being on the road, or in the gym, or when making phone calls.

    I agree with a little practice and holding them differently, the BFPs are less fiddly to put them on. However, I'm way more afraid of dropping them than the PBs. On the positive side, thanks to the tiny size of the BFPs, you don't have a wobbly piece of something standing out from your ear like a cork from a wine bottle. And something that fits many ears better and more firmly than the Air Pods.

    On changing the volume with an Apple Watch: I have one, but this doesn't work well for me. Only for Spotify, it instantly displays some controls, including one for the volume. This is not always (or not always instantly) the case with Apple Music, and I don't know why.
    When making phone calls - and this is my most common use case for volume changes - it mostly does not give me the volume adjustment option at all, or if it does (usually when I was listening to Spotify before), it moves the volume slider, visibly even on the phone, but it does not react, the volume does not change. I guess this is still the Spotify volume change, and not for the phone call. Although it says 'iphone' on the Watch's screen, not Spotify. I am confused.

    So, either user errors (or improper handling), or software issues, or both.
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    01-30-2022 12:12 PM
  9. gnirkatto's Avatar
    And now for something completely different.
    The lid of the case for the Beats Fit Pro, when closed, is a little wobbly in the hinge (also when open, but less than when closed, surprisingly). Not much, but enough to concern me. Anyone else having this problem? Or did I get one from a bad batch and should get a replacement?
    The lid of the case for the Powerbeats sits steady as a rock.
    01-30-2022 12:30 PM
  10. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I found that all wired headphones that I tried out sounded better than any wireless headphones that I ever tried (including the Air Pods Max).
    Of course not the cheapest of the cheap wired ones. But also not top high end headphones. I usually use good quality middle class headphones in the $/€ 150-300 price range.
    So whenever I really want to sit back and actively listen to music, I always use wired headphones.

    I'm using the Beats when being too lazy to fiddle with cables, or when being on the road, or in the gym, or when making phone calls.

    I agree with a little practice and holding them differently, the BFPs are less fiddly to put them on. However, I'm way more afraid of dropping them than the PBs. On the positive side, thanks to the tiny size of the BFPs, you don't have a wobbly piece of something standing out from your ear like a cork from a wine bottle. And something that fits many ears better and more firmly than the Air Pods.

    On changing the volume with an Apple Watch: I have one, but this doesn't work well for me. Only for Spotify, it instantly displays some controls, including one for the volume. This is not always (or not always instantly) the case with Apple Music, and I don't know why.
    When making phone calls - and this is my most common use case for volume changes - it mostly does not give me the volume adjustment option at all, or if it does (usually when I was listening to Spotify before), it moves the volume slider, visibly even on the phone, but it does not react, the volume does not change. I guess this is still the Spotify volume change, and not for the phone call. Although it says 'iphone' on the Watch's screen, not Spotify. I am confused.

    So, either user errors (or improper handling), or software issues, or both.
    I have to agree. Bluetooth hasn't caught up to wired just yet in sound quality for the most part, however the convenience of wireless for me outweighs the sound quality for my everyday use.
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    01-30-2022 12:30 PM
  11. gnirkatto's Avatar
    Wow.
    I just found that in the Bluetooth-settings for the Beats Fit, you can in fact set them to Siri. This can be defined for the left and/or the right earpiece. You have to give up on noise control settings instead, or you can define left-Siri and right-noise control. Or vice versa.
    You can also turn on volume control: left for more and right for less volume. But then you have to sacrifice Siri/noise control, of course.
    This is a great finding for me. I only switch noise control via settings or control center on the iPhone, never on the earpiece - as I want to know exactly which mode I turn on or off.
    I think I'll set both sides to Siri.
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    01-30-2022 02:15 PM
  12. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Wow.
    I just found that in the Bluetooth-settings for the Beats Fit, you can in fact set them to Siri. This can be defined for the left and/or the right earpiece. You have to give up on noise control settings instead, or you can define left-Siri and right-noise control. Or vice versa.
    You can also turn on volume control: left for more and right for less volume. But then you have to sacrifice Siri/noise control, of course.
    This is a great finding for me. I only switch noise control via settings or control center on the iPhone, never on the earpiece - as I want to know exactly which mode I turn on or off.
    I think I'll set both sides to Siri.
    KOOL . That's how I have mine set.
    01-30-2022 02:26 PM
  13. imwjl's Avatar
    And now for something completely different.
    The lid of the case for the Beats Fit Pro, when closed, is a little wobbly in the hinge (also when open, but less than when closed, surprisingly). Not much, but enough to concern me. Anyone else having this problem? Or did I get one from a bad batch and should get a replacement?
    The lid of the case for the Powerbeats sits steady as a rock.
    It doesn't seem as solid as the APP case with a sizable metal hinge visible but on the whole it seems okay in a way where it is also less expensive. Time will tell but I feel it's a winner product with lots of strong features between existing AirPods models and it brings more features to an Android user.

    More than case worries, I had an APP break in warranty and outside of warranty. I hope the earpieces themselves are tougher than AirPod Pro.
    01-31-2022 01:46 PM
  14. Spencerdl's Avatar
    And now for something completely different.
    The lid of the case for the Beats Fit Pro, when closed, is a little wobbly in the hinge (also when open, but less than when closed, surprisingly). Not much, but enough to concern me. Anyone else having this problem? Or did I get one from a bad batch and should get a replacement?
    The lid of the case for the Powerbeats sits steady as a rock.
    My lid on the BFP is pretty solid, however the case is not of the same quality as the earbuds themselves. I also wish it had wireless charging to be honest.
    01-31-2022 05:09 PM
  15. imwjl's Avatar
    My lid on the BFP is pretty solid, however the case is not of the same quality as the earbuds themselves. I also wish it had wireless charging to be honest.
    I keep thinking some aspects of Beats Fit Pro tells us about the next AirPods Pro.
    02-01-2022 07:14 AM
  16. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I keep thinking some aspects of Beats Fit Pro tells us about the next AirPods Pro.
    I agree.
    02-01-2022 08:22 AM
  17. gnirkatto's Avatar
    My lid on the BFP is pretty solid, however the case is not of the same quality as the earbuds themselves. I also wish it had wireless charging to be honest.
    After speaking with Apple support, I decided to go for a replacement. It should arrive tomorrow. Will post here if the lid/hinge is more solid.
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    02-01-2022 10:32 AM
  18. Spencerdl's Avatar
    After speaking with Apple support, I decided to go for a replacement. It should arrive tomorrow. Will post here if the lid/hinge is more solid.
    Good
    02-01-2022 02:48 PM
  19. gnirkatto's Avatar
    Replacement Beats Fit Pro - same case lid wobble. So it 'works as designed' then, I guess?
    02-02-2022 08:32 AM
  20. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Replacement Beats Fit Pro - same case lid wobble. So it 'works as designed' then, I guess?
    Humm . No wobble on my BFP case.
    02-02-2022 10:57 AM
  21. gnirkatto's Avatar
    Humm . No wobble on my BFP case.
    I'll go to the Apple Store when I have a chance, to compare it with more cases and to ask them what they think. Maybe I got 2 from the same (bad) batch.
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    02-02-2022 12:40 PM
  22. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I'll go to the Apple Store when I have a chance, to compare it with more cases and to ask them what they think. Maybe I got 2 from the same (bad) batch.
    Sounds like a plan
    02-02-2022 09:12 PM
  23. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I finally took the time to purchase a pair of Beats Fit Pro earbuds and in summary, I like them and plan to keep them. In my opinion, they sound better than my AirPods Pro, but not by a lot. The bass is fine, but cannot compare to the base that’s generated with my Jabra Elite 75t earbuds. ANC and transparency are on par with the AirPods Pro. The overall sound is clean, crisp and clear.
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    02-16-2022 07:08 PM
  24. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I finally took the time to purchase a pair of Beats Fit Pro earbuds and in summary, I like them and plan to keep them. In my opinion, they sound better than my AirPods Pro, but not by a lot. The bass is fine, but cannot compare to the base that’s generated with my Jabra Elite 75t earbuds. ANC and transparency are on par with the AirPods Pro. The overall sound is clean, crisp and clear.
    What color did you get?
    02-18-2022 06:37 PM
  25. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    White pair with the red b…
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    02-18-2022 06:52 PM
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