1. Elite1's Avatar
    I had enough "trying it" when I had my BB. No thanks.
    This is the kind of thinking that exemplifies the anti-BB sentiment so many former BB users have.

    For some, BBM is a cross-platform IM app. One that works well, albeit with a few bugs on the new versions just rolled out for Android & iOS platforms. It also has unique features that will be liked by some and irrelevant to others.
    And unlike just some new IM app, it comes with a proven infrastructure and millions of established users already there.

    For others, it's the latest call to arms in Smartphone Wars.
    A lot of people felt betrayed by BBRY for one reason or another, or just frustrated with the problematic BBOS platform.
    "I'm not getting BBM... just because it's BBM!"
    Everyone is entitled to their opinions about any subject, this one included. But some people are really overthinking this!
    It's a free IM app. You're not getting back at someone by NOT using it, and you're not somehow surrendering by using it either.

    Sorry, I know this thread's been dead for a week, but I enjoyed reading both sides of this debate and felt like throwing in my 2 cents.
    11-11-2013 10:52 PM
  2. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore elite1
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    11-12-2013 12:19 AM
  3. mbar9607's Avatar
    i like that other companies like gogole and bb are releasing their instant messaging apps for all platforms, but i think bbm is generally a thing of the past now
    11-12-2013 08:14 AM
  4. Elite1's Avatar
    i like that other companies like gogole and bb are releasing their instant messaging apps for all platforms, but i think bbm is generally a thing of the past now
    Can totally understand that sentiment, given that most things associated with the old BBOS platform should have been things of the past long before they were finally replaced by the new BB10 platform that most people have never used.

    But BBM isn't a thing of the past obviously considering it just released cross-platform with some fanfare... to the tune of tens of millions of downloads so far.
    11-12-2013 05:21 PM
  5. Elite1's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore elite1

    What? I'm just some n00bie.

    Actually a Nanite. Not even a Newbie.
    11-12-2013 05:24 PM
  6. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    i like that other companies like gogole and bb are releasing their instant messaging apps for all platforms, but i think bbm is generally a thing of the past now
    An instant messenger is an instant messenger. The question is whether or not BBM is enticing enough to Android, iOS, and BlackBerry users as a cross platform solution to stay relevant.
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    11-12-2013 08:50 PM
  7. melbsteve's Avatar
    my brother is the last family member/friend still clinging to his BB device and I must admit I enjoy texting him on BBM. It looks neat (probably better than on his actual blackberry haha) and works much quicker than my Whatsapp which I hate hate hate. So yeah, good stuff. Hope that the video feature etc. will be integrated soon as well.
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    11-13-2013 02:48 AM
  8. melbsteve's Avatar
    An instant messenger is an instant messenger. The question is whether or not BBM is enticing enough to Android, iOS, and BlackBerry users as a cross platform solution to stay relevant.
    but unlike e.g. Whatsapp I'd wager that in 99.99 per cent of all cases where BBM is used as a cross-platform messenger, ONE of the two devices will be a BB. So it's in essence used as a gateway to BB friends. At least that's my perception. I think that the number of people who use BBM to communicate between iOS and Android devices is marginal, those would make use of google/facebook/whatsapp messenger. What I'm trying to say is that I reckon the BBM relevance will kind of live and die with the Blackberry (phones) relevance. I don't consider it an actual competitor in the cross-platform messenger race... which is sad, because I find BBM superior to most already.
    11-13-2013 02:59 AM
  9. Elite1's Avatar
    but unlike e.g. Whatsapp I'd wager that in 99.99 per cent of all cases where BBM is used as a cross-platform messenger, ONE of the two devices will be a BB. So it's in essence used as a gateway to BB friends. At least that's my perception. I think that the number of people who use BBM to communicate between iOS and Android devices is marginal, those would make use of google/facebook/whatsapp messenger. What I'm trying to say is that I reckon the BBM relevance will kind of live and die with the Blackberry (phones) relevance. I don't consider it an actual competitor in the cross-platform messenger race... which is sad, because I find BBM superior to most already.
    Actually I know quite a few former BB users now on iOS mostly or Android for some that have switched to BBM for communicating, especially with other formerly active CrackBerrians.

    I have one friend with numerous BBM contacts already, and I think I'm only one of a couple of those that actually has a BB.

    Ditto for my family and my wife's. They're all iOS, and my wife and I are the only BBM contacts they have with a BB.
    So far, our families are really enjoying using BBM Groups. (And to be fair, WhatsApp groups has 2-3 great features that BBM Groups don't, but I still prefer BBM Groups personally.)

    Anyway, this is all pretty anecdotal. Are you right overall? You might be, but cross-platform BBM is barely even a month old, with BBM Video, BBM Voice, and Windows Phone support all on the horizon too.
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    11-13-2013 07:22 AM
  10. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar

    "I'm not getting BBM... just because it's BBM!"
    I don't think like that. I'm not getting it because it's not needed for me.
    11-13-2013 11:51 AM
  11. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    but unlike e.g. Whatsapp I'd wager that in 99.99 per cent of all cases where BBM is used as a cross-platform messenger, ONE of the two devices will be a BB. So it's in essence used as a gateway to BB friends. At least that's my perception. I think that the number of people who use BBM to communicate between iOS and Android devices is marginal, those would make use of google/facebook/whatsapp messenger. What I'm trying to say is that I reckon the BBM relevance will kind of live and die with the Blackberry (phones) relevance. I don't consider it an actual competitor in the cross-platform messenger race... which is sad, because I find BBM superior to most already.
    As far as personal communication (between friends and family) there's a very good chance that one of the devices is a BlackBerry. That said, I also have friends who've moved to iOS or Android and that became WhatsApp users out of necessity, but ended up downloading BBMx when it became available. Is it a gateway to BB users? Perhaps. But no more so than Gtalk (or Hangouts as it's now known) is gateway to Google users. Unless it's a third party solution who's sole purpose is messaging, it's going to be a gateway to someone's platform. Beyond the IM, there's also a social aspect to it. Have a look at the forums here or on Android Central, and you'll see groups that've been started by forum members. Those groups are probably almost exclusive iOS or Android users communicating with each other using BBM.
    11-13-2013 12:13 PM
  12. Elite1's Avatar
    Actually if you check out the Discover BBM Groups forum on CrackBerry, you will find a ton of BBM Groups started by iOS or Android users.

    FYI: So far, iOS & Android PIN's always start with a 7, while BB PIN's start with a 2 or 3.
    Last edited by elite1; 12-08-2013 at 03:55 AM.
    11-13-2013 01:18 PM
  13. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    I don't need BBM. I don't really "need" most technology pieces I own LOL... but that's what makes us geeks, no? The love of technology!

    That's why I am a fan of BBM. I love the idea of being able to communicate with more people. Even though I will admit that my BBM contact list is quite thin, I like the option.

    I refuse to allow a love for any one platform kill the opportunity to try something new on another... especially when it is good.
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    11-13-2013 03:32 PM
  14. Azensun's Avatar
    I nearly died when I thought I lost BBM once. I guess I "need" it more than I thought!
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    11-13-2013 03:40 PM
  15. melbsteve's Avatar
    As far as personal communication (between friends and family) there's a very good chance that one of the devices is a BlackBerry. That said, I also have friends who've moved to iOS or Android and that became WhatsApp users out of necessity, but ended up downloading BBMx when it became available. Is it a gateway to BB users? Perhaps. But no more so than Gtalk (or Hangouts as it's now known) is gateway to Google users.
    but - correct me if I'm wrong - people have been chatting on Google before they had even entered the phone industry. So I wouldn't put it in the same gateway category as BBM. And as for Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger (isn't Twitter reportedly also finalising a Chat app?), those are the big ones BBM would have to take on and I don't see them coming out on top by any stretch. Youre (both) right when you say there's even people in android/ios forums sharing PINs, but those are a fraction of people in comparison to the mainstream and probably not the group of people that will decide if BBM as a cross-platform messenger ultimately succeeds or fails. That's going to be determined by the 'normal' phone user, and with regard to those I would still argue that they will only come into contact with BBM if a family member or close friend owns a BB device. And since that number of people is still shrinking I just don't see how BBM can establish itself. Maybe if they brought it to Windows Phone, and also very soon added video chats plus ran a huge marketing campaign to promote. But that doesn't sound like something BB would (/could) do. <although they did place the BBM logo on the Formula1 Mercedes Car, which I thought was a good start >
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    11-13-2013 07:33 PM
  16. anon3230140's Avatar
    I guess that the information given by the representative at the local store was obviously used to persuade me to choose another OS other than BlackBerry is the only assumption I can come to at this point. I will DEFINITELY be checking into your comment above in hope that the features that I used on a daily basis with os7 will now actually have come to fruition with os10. Thank you for clarifying!
    UPDATE: Blackberry Bridge for BB10 was updated yesterday and now you can use SMS on the PlayBook too. Seems like they're proving all the doubters wrong little by little.
    11-19-2013 04:44 AM
  17. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    UPDATE: Blackberry Bridge for BB10 was updated yesterday and now you can use SMS on the PlayBook too. Seems like they're proving all the doubters wrong little by little.
    I think short of BB10 on that bad boy, it'll be hard to earn back the goodwill already lost.
    11-22-2013 03:52 PM
  18. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    UPDATE: Blackberry Bridge for BB10 was updated yesterday and now you can use SMS on the PlayBook too. Seems like they're proving all the doubters wrong little by little.
    So they've finally restored the functionality that was in older versions of Bridge...


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    11-23-2013 01:02 PM
  19. WhiteSpir1t's Avatar
    Pffffft


    Posted via BlackBerry Z10 <-----like the last fart--the last desperate fart of a dying corpse
    12-12-2013 04:55 AM
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