1. kch50428's Avatar
    BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) coming to iOS this summer | iMore.com

    And as Rene said on Twitter... https://twitter.com/reneritchie/stat...23152723263489
    Now every competing platform also makes apps for iOS: Google, Microsoft (and Nokia), BlackBerry
    And As Rene blogged... As of today, every major mobile competitor... also makes app for iOS | iMore.com

    But wait! There's more! BlackBerry announces iOS support in enterprise service | iMore.com
    Last edited by kch50428; 05-14-2013 at 11:29 AM.
    05-14-2013 11:10 AM
  2. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    So one could only deduce that this is a way for iPhone users to communicate to their loyal BB friends via BBM...because i can't, for the life of me, understand why someone would use this as opposed to iMessage amongst iOS devices.
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    05-14-2013 11:26 AM
  3. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    A very ballsy move by BlackBerry. They have the potential to become THE cross platform communication client if they can integrate the native BBM features like video chat and screen share into it quickly.

    Sean, I think the key here is it's cross platform. I agree, there's no point really for it when it comes to iOS to iOS communication, especially given that iMessage and Facetime is cross iOS device. It's like there not being a use for WhatsApp when I'm messaging another BlackBerry user when there's BBM. But this allows for iOS, Android, and BlackBerry users to communicate with each other, which if the popularity of WhatsApp on the App Store is any indication, is something users are looking for.
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    05-14-2013 11:42 AM
  4. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Personally, it just seems like another step in the direction of Blackberry's swan song...the kind of realization that they are not going to be able to compete at the top of the smart phone food chain, so they need to make the environment as usable as possible for the BB loyal to prevent them from jumping ship and moving to another platform (or at least slow the bleed a little).
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    05-14-2013 11:59 AM
  5. cardfan's Avatar
    A very ballsy move by BlackBerry. They have the potential to become THE cross platform communication client if they can integrate the native BBM features like video chat and screen share into it quickly.

    Sean, I think the key here is it's cross platform. I agree, there's no point really for it when it comes to iOS to iOS communication, especially given that iMessage and Facetime is cross iOS device. It's like there not being a use for WhatsApp when I'm messaging another BlackBerry user when there's BBM. But this allows for iOS, Android, and BlackBerry users to communicate with each other, which if the popularity of WhatsApp on the App Store is any indication, is something users are looking for.
    Perhaps, but why bother buying a blackberry now? BB's primary business is selling phones. How does this help do that? It helps the competition out more.

    You can count on every BB user having BBM, but the reverse isn't true. Most other users won't have BBM, have never heard of it, and won't download it. BB just gave those really into BB another reason to leave.

    As Rene pointed out, Apple's competitors love making iOS apps. But most of them aren't really direct competitors. Amazon is ecommerce. Google is search, info, and ads. MS is software. Those apps help their primary businesses.
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    05-14-2013 12:01 PM
  6. Good OL MC's Avatar
    I haven't used BBM in ages so I can't speak to the quality of the app or service, but if it is a well designed and well rounded app for BB10, iOS, and Android I could easily see myself making the switch to it if I can get enough people to go over.

    iMessage is only for iOS, Google Talk has no first party iOS client, and it's to easy for people I don't want to converse with to get in touch with me on Facebook Messenger. WhatsApp has no adoption among my circle but BBM has been used amongst my friends when BBs were popular so it may have enough name recognition to take hold.

    I'll try it. If it sucks I'll delete it. Easy as that.
    05-14-2013 12:01 PM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I think it's a little too late for it to be a success. Most of the people I know have moved on to either the iPhone or an Android device. Furthermore, a majority of smartphone plans include unlimited text messaging, at least here in the U.S., which renders the need for in-house messaging apps somewhat moot with the exception of videos, in my opinion.
    05-14-2013 12:15 PM
  8. BLiNK's Avatar
    a few years too late?

    hilarious. all of my friends who had blackberry devices switched to alternate devices by now

    hasn't everyone?..
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    05-14-2013 12:15 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Perhaps, but why bother buying a blackberry now? BB's primary business is selling phones. How does this help do that? It helps the competition out more.
    This is why i was a bit confused initially reading the article, but honestly, it kind of defines the fact that even Blackberry see's the end of any market relevance, and they are now in protect mode when it comes to their existing users...they have to make their environment as usable as possible so their existing consumer base doesn't leave for another platform, and what better way to do this than giving them a way to converse easily with the top of the food chain.
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    05-14-2013 12:18 PM
  10. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    I think everyone assumes Blackberry is a dead service. While it had been at the bottom in the US it was still very near the top or was the top in other countries. Blackberry is not so close to be being bankrupt and failing as so many of you think, that they are singing a swan song. No, on the contrary, I believe putting BBM cross platform will help keep users on BB as you have pointed out, but also get old users back to BB after the realize how much more amazing BBM is now than it was before. Those BB fans will want to at least try out a Z10 or Q10 and may jump back. I also think Blackberry realizes that many iOS users are so deeply integrated and rooted into the Apple ecosystem that they can't easily make a platform switch or simply refuse to try. BBM cross platform isn't the end, it's a compromise.


    Blazin' tappity tap tap 2 you!
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    05-14-2013 01:01 PM
  11. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    I also remember when I was a BB user and used BBM it was either on or you did not have it installed but once you were logged in you had no choices and you were always bombarded with your friends list sending out messages that you received ALL the time if you were included in the group or on their list. It ran batteries down and heated the device. I eventually just deleted BBM and stopped using it.

    At least with IOS when I get an SMS or iMessage I can choose when to take it, open it. read it, respond to it etc.
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    05-14-2013 01:02 PM
  12. Alli's Avatar
    The brilliant thing about iMessage is that you don't have to worry about what device is on the other end. You just send your text and it gets to the recipient. I stopped using WhatsApp for a number of reasons, the least of which is I never knew who had it installed. The same will be true of BBM. Why would I bother opening a 3rd party app (trying to remember who uses a BB and who has BBM installed on nonBB devices) when I can just send a text.

    Video and audio nonono.
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    05-14-2013 01:34 PM
  13. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    So one could only deduce that this is a way for iPhone users to communicate to their loyal BB friends via BBM...because i can't, for the life of me, understand why someone would use this as opposed to iMessage amongst iOS devices.
    You beat me to it. I can't think of a reason why I'd need BBM on my phone but I'm sure there are people out there who will welcome the news. The last person I knew with a BB got an iPhone5 last week.
    05-14-2013 01:35 PM
  14. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    No, on the contrary, I believe putting BBM cross platform will help keep users on BB as you have pointed out, but also get old users back to BB after the realize how much more amazing BBM is now than it was before. Those BB fans will want to at least try out a Z10 or Q10 and may jump back.

    Blazin' tappity tap tap 2 you!
    Until BB gets the app library iOS and Android have, no. Just no. It won't make me want to come back, BBM or not.
    05-14-2013 01:38 PM
  15. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    I have no ambition or desire to have BBM on what would normally be on a BB device. I prefer to have the messaging that I have now and nothing else. This does me just fine for SMS or iMessage.
    05-14-2013 02:15 PM
  16. sting7k's Avatar
    If it's more reliable than iMessage I will use it.
    05-14-2013 03:12 PM
  17. projectman's Avatar
    The brilliant thing about iMessage is that you don't have to worry about what device is on the other end. You just send your text and it gets to the recipient. I stopped using WhatsApp for a number of reasons, the least of which is I never knew who had it installed. The same will be true of BBM. Why would I bother opening a 3rd party app (trying to remember who uses a BB and who has BBM installed on nonBB devices) when I can just send a text.

    Video and audio nonono.
    I used BBM when I was stuck in the BB world (work related thing) and I did not have to worry about what app others were using. It worked the same as iMessage (tapping into BBM or text regardless of device). In fact, there were features that made it a bit more convenient than iMessage currently allows. That being said, I haven't missed it...much. Might be interesting to see how it looks and works. Deletion is always an option. :-)
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    05-14-2013 04:03 PM
  18. taz323's Avatar
    That's ok, no thanks, didn't like it when I had a BB, I will still with iMessage thank you.
    05-14-2013 04:07 PM
  19. taz323's Avatar
    That's ok, no thanks, didn't like it when I had a BB, I will stick with iMessage thank you.
    05-14-2013 04:09 PM
  20. Dryland's Avatar
    Meh, I don't know anyone with a BB anymore. All my friends and family are on iPhone. Only a few on android.
    05-14-2013 06:16 PM
  21. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I think everyone assumes Blackberry is a dead service. While it had been at the bottom in the US it was still very near the top or was the top in other countries. Blackberry is not so close to be being bankrupt and failing as so many of you think, that they are singing a swan song. No, on the contrary, I believe putting BBM cross platform will help keep users on BB as you have pointed out, but also get old users back to BB after the realize how much more amazing BBM is now than it was before. Those BB fans will want to at least try out a Z10 or Q10 and may jump back. I also think Blackberry realizes that many iOS users are so deeply integrated and rooted into the Apple ecosystem that they can't easily make a platform switch or simply refuse to try. BBM cross platform isn't the end, it's a compromise.


    Blazin' tappity tap tap 2 you!
    BBM is not going to bring anyone back to the Blackberry boat...it's not THAT much better than it used to be, sure...it has a few new features, but it's still on a device that is a few years behind the rest of the league. As far as the argument that it's still huge overseas...if you go look, overseas markets look very similar to our own, with Samsung and Apple duking it out (and even Nokia still up there in some places) at the top and blackberry floundering around with many other available devices. This "overseas" argument seems to be where many BB fans go while debating, but the truth is, it's simply not true...Blackberry is struggling WORLDWIDE, not just in the states.

    I agree with you on one point though...BBM is a compromise, Blackberry realizes that in order to keep their name relevant in the smart phone market, they have to make sure people on the leading platforms see they still exist, and keep their user core able to communicate with their circles that have moved on, and maybe keep that core on BB devices because of such.
    05-14-2013 06:53 PM
  22. Richard Devine's Avatar
    BlackBerry is more than just hardware. I can't understand why so many folks are down on this. Why does it mean the end of BlackBerry?

    Putting BBM on iOS is the smartest thing BlackBerry has ever done with the platform. It's a much better messaging tool than Whatsapp, and GTalk, and the video calling is seriously probably the best mobile video calling experience I've ever used. On any platform.

    I can't wait to get a hold of this.
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    05-14-2013 07:56 PM
  23. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I've never used bbm so I'll just have to wait until its out.
    05-14-2013 07:57 PM
  24. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    BBM is not going to bring anyone back to the Blackberry boat...it's not THAT much better than it used to be, sure...it has a few new features, but it's still on a device that is a few years behind the rest of the league. As far as the argument that it's still huge overseas...if you go look, overseas markets look very similar to our own, with Samsung and Apple duking it out (and even Nokia still up there in some places) at the top and blackberry floundering around with many other available devices. This "overseas" argument seems to be where many BB fans go while debating, but the truth is, it's simply not true...Blackberry is struggling WORLDWIDE, not just in the states.

    I agree with you on one point though...BBM is a compromise, Blackberry realizes that in order to keep their name relevant in the smart phone market, they have to make sure people on the leading platforms see they still exist, and keep their user core able to communicate with their circles that have moved on, and maybe keep that core on BB devices because of such.
    Your reply is on-point, my friend. To the people who may feel offended at the things that are being stated here in regard to BBM, don't be. Many of us are former Blackberry owners and are not saying that Blackberry devices or BBM are not great or appreciated, but we are saying, at least I am, that making BBM available for iOS will not greatly improve Blackberry's status among the smartphone hierarchy, so to speak.
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    05-14-2013 08:02 PM
  25. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    BlackBerry is more than just hardware. I can't understand why so many folks are down on this. Why does it mean the end of BlackBerry?

    Putting BBM on iOS is the smartest thing BlackBerry has ever done with the platform. It's a much better messaging tool than Whatsapp, and GTalk, and the video calling is seriously probably the best mobile video calling experience I've ever used. On any platform.

    I can't wait to get a hold of this.
    It's a glimmer of life on a dying planet...and let's be 100% honest, Blackberry is about 99.9999999% hardware and the rest you can call whatever you deem accurate i suppose. For all intents and purposes, yes, Blackberry is all hardware and now they're dipping their feet into building an OS that people recognize...let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Blackberry's OS development isn't something anyone was writing home about until earlier this year, and we've yet to see the kind of legs this OS has.

    I'm not down on Blackberry, I'm just an outsider looking in with nothing invested and no real care either way...I will, however, say that i don't want BB to fail, because the competition is healthy across the board, and such a huge piece of the history of smart phones just dying would not do anything positive for anyone, especially on the consumer level.
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    05-14-2013 08:08 PM
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