1. TylerLV76's Avatar
    I actually totally agree with you on this. It is how Apple has marketed, and it obviously has worked. It was brilliant actually. What I’m pointing out is why it’s not best for such a large number of people. While Apple actually has a small market share, they have marketed their devices in such a way to have high prices and make up for it. Again, it has worked, at least until now. There was a lot of negative press about the X costing so much and I’m not sure we know actual sales figures to see if it was a success or not.

    I enjoy looking and different sides and just want to reflect your advice back to you, be open minded beyond your personal feelings and don’t always think if someone has a critical view it means they do not like something.
    For the record, I dont care for Apple products as a whole. I find more features jn other devices to fit my techy impulses. I primarily use Android and Windows devices for the shear customization. I just also happen to own pretty much every Apple product except the HomePod. Its a nasty hobby that cant seem to shake.

    The one thing I dont get though is criticizing a device that someone has never bothered to try. Especially on a forum that is built around those devices.
    04-26-2018 01:06 PM
  2. Ken Magel's Avatar
    I think every technology device should be updated in a significant way at least once a year. Apple is unable to do that. That is why I think they should reduce their product lines.
    04-26-2018 01:43 PM
  3. TgeekB's Avatar
    I think every technology device should be updated in a significant way at least once a year. Apple is unable to do that. That is why I think they should reduce their product lines.
    If that were the determining factor we wouldn’t have most technological devices. Most are small incremental changes that are often marketed as more than they are. That’s why most people don’t update every year.
    Technology can’t always improve that quickly. It would be cool if it could though.
    04-26-2018 02:55 PM
  4. Sherry_B's Avatar
    I think every technology device should be updated in a significant way at least once a year. Apple is unable to do that. That is why I think they should reduce their product lines.
    The hardware in an iPhone is extremely well made and lasts for many, many years. The OS get's updated with new features (whether we like those updates or not or if we agree with their prices is for another thread), and as long as the hardware on their currently sold devices works with the new OS updates there is no logical reason to retire them. Even the Homepod, regardless of what I personally think of it.
    04-26-2018 08:32 PM
  5. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Android is the platform 100's of companies use, not a brand. Brands hold market share and those brands hold the markets where their customers have access to them easily they maintain brand loyalty. India and the Moto series is a prime example.
    Android is not a smart phone manufacturer, if that's what you are trying to say. However it is a brand and it does hold market share. But this "what is a brand" discussion seems off topic.

    Nobody said you couldn't discuss it. The problem is when you can't look outside of your own opinion and see the facts that disagree with your opinion. Case in point, you think the SE looks prehistoric but obviously millions of people don't feel that way, hence the leading phone in the UK. You want them to drop a phone that has proven to be one of the most successful designs in years. It just doesn't make sense for them to do that.
    The Ford Model T was one of the most successful designs in history. It sold millions. Are you suggesting that Ford should still sell it today?

    Im clearly looking at it from the point of the customer, thats where I got my figures that disagree with your claims. The customers have spoken and it shows by Apples market share and the huge success of their products, especially the SE. What more does the iPhone need that you think its missing? It handles every single aspect of iOS 11 and does so quite well. Until they change iOS' limitations, what more does the hardware need to add? But even with these limitations, Apple is thriving.
    Apple is indeed thriving but that's not interesting to me as a customer. Why would I care about Apple's level of profit? Are you arguing that I should buy an Apple phone just because Apple are very profitable?

    What do I think is missing from the iPhone SE? For me, the 4 inch screen is completely kills it. I haven't used a phone with such a small screen for more than half a decade, and even my EUR 130 phone from earlier posts has a better screen. I haven't evaluated it any further.

    Put the 6S camera up against the OnePlus 5t, Huawei Mate 9, any of the Motorolas, the LG G6, and tell me that it doesn't compete and in many cases beat out those devices. Compare battery life with those phones (besides the mate 9) and tell me it doesn't compete. Compare reliability and usage against those phones and it still competes. What more do you want from a 3 year old device? Then put the level of service and support that comes with the 6S versus any other brand out there and tell me it doesn't deserve the price tag it commands and easily sells for today.
    OK... the iPhone 6S does not deserve the price tag it commands today. I don't want a three year old device that costs EUR 530. If Apple introduce a new more competitive phone at that price (as some rumours suggest they will) I would be interested.

    As for your other points, it is very strange to compare the Motorola E4 (my EUR 130 phone (*) ) with the iPhone 6S which costs literally four times as much!
    I'm not really interested in a feature by feature comparison of some random phones against the 6S, but I will point you to this review regarding battery life: https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...h-battery-life

    To summarise - Apple do make good products, but the new ones are currently too expensive for me and the cheaper ones are too old and uncompetitive. I hope Apple will fix this - then they can have an even higher market share! :-)

    (*) Actually not literally my phone, I don't currently own one but I have used it and can confirm that it's a perfectly acceptable smartphone in all regards.
    04-27-2018 09:32 AM
  6. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I rather like the fact that Apple offers a wide variety of products. It gives customers the ability to choose what fits their needs, and their wallet. Yes they are high end, but as many others have said far more brilliantly than I could, their outstanding service and support comes with that. So I think it's reasonable that they keep the number products available. As for the Homepod, I tend to agree with @Sherry_B
    Do you think it would be better if Apple made new products for the cheaper price points, rather than just cutting the price of their older devices? Because personally I think that would be better, and almost all other smart phone manufacturers do.
    04-27-2018 09:36 AM
  7. anony_mouse's Avatar
    This is what a lot of people miss when they consider why Apple sells at the prices it does. For the past couple years I tried about every Android device I could get my hands on. Yes some of them were excellent and today I am still using a Note 8 with no case, no screen protector because I really don't care about it anymore and getting Samsung to fix it is a nightmare even with premium care.

    The one thing none of them had was the service Apple offers. With every single one of the 15+ devices I used last year, not one had the ability to walk into a store and receive service for either a broken screen, faulty hardware etc. The all had to be shipped for service and some places had a 2-3 week waiting period for repairs (looking at you LG). I have 3 Apple stores within 30 minutes of me in 3 different directions. I can walk in with a broken screen and walk out with a new one the same day. No other manufacturer offers that level of service. That service makes up a large portion of the cost in their products and many people are more than ok with that.
    I have always been mystified by the value people put in Apple's product support service. All the Apple products I have owned were well made and easy to use. I have never needed support for them. Do other Apple users really have so many problems?
    04-27-2018 09:40 AM
  8. TylerLV76's Avatar
    I have always been mystified by the value people put in Apple's product support service. All the Apple products I have owned were well made and easy to use. I have never needed support for them. Do other Apple users really have so many problems?
    Not gonna answer the other post as its pointless to continue trying to explain.

    This one however I will. In the past 4 years I have been to the Apple store at least 20 times. I have a clumsy daughter, clumsy wife and a multitude of Apple products. Each of those times I walked out with the issue fixed and paid no more than the cost of a screen repair.

    I have had an ungodly amount of Android phones and each time I had any issue I had to mail it away for at least 2 weeks. Had 4 S8 Actives that all had the failing seal issue and each one took weeks to get resolved. LG G6 with a bad camera and took 3 weeks to get it replaced after sending it in.

    So yeah, the convenience of Apple support is well worth the cost.
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    04-27-2018 09:47 AM
  9. Annie_8plus's Avatar
    Well, haven't they already done that with both the 2017 and 2018 iPads? And of course, they came out with the 5c a few years back. I think it's fine to offer a wider variety of lower priced items as part of a bigger line. I don't want to see them going economy all the way!
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    04-27-2018 10:29 AM
  10. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Not gonna answer the other post as its pointless to continue trying to explain.
    Let me put it another way - if customers prefer older phones as you claim (iPhone 6S, SE, etc), why do Apple record their highest sales in Q4, which is the quarter in which they launch their new models?

    This one however I will. In the past 4 years I have been to the Apple store at least 20 times. I have a clumsy daughter, clumsy wife and a multitude of Apple products. Each of those times I walked out with the issue fixed and paid no more than the cost of a screen repair.
    Twenty times? Are you serious? This is why I would never buy mobile phone insurance such as Apple Care! (don't know if you do, of course)

    I have had an ungodly amount of Android phones and each time I had any issue I had to mail it away for at least 2 weeks. Had 4 S8 Actives that all had the failing seal issue and each one took weeks to get resolved. LG G6 with a bad camera and took 3 weeks to get it replaced after sending it in.

    So yeah, the convenience of Apple support is well worth the cost.
    I remain mystified by the number of problems people on this site have with mobile phones. I have owned Apple mobile products and Android-based mobile products, and have never had a problem with any of them that required the product to be returned or repaired. I am also aware of typical return rates for consumer electronics products (I have worked in the industry) and people here experience orders of magnitude more problems than typical consumers, both with Apple and non-Apple products.
    Last edited by anony_mouse; 04-29-2018 at 04:23 AM.
    04-29-2018 04:08 AM
  11. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Well, haven't they already done that with both the 2017 and 2018 iPads? And of course, they came out with the 5c a few years back. I think it's fine to offer a wider variety of lower priced items as part of a bigger line. I don't want to see them going economy all the way!
    I fear that too many people either don't read my posts or don't understand them.

    I absolutely agree that Apple should offer a range of products, from cheaper to more expensive. Almost all mobile phone manufacturers do this. However, Apple do this differently to other manufacturers. Most refresh their whole range more or less every year. Check out, for example, Nokia. They recently announced a complete new set of products, so if you buy a "Nokia 5 2018", it is a new and better product than a "Nokia 5 2017", for the same price.

    Apple don't do this. Apple mostly take models from earlier years and cut the price - so the 6S was the top of the range model in 2015 but is now only the fourth best model in the range, although it still costs a staggering EUR 530. I am arguing that Apple should scrap these archaic older models and introduce genuinely competitive new models at the lower price, as other manufacturers do.

    The iPhone SE was a slightly different case when it was introduced. It took a very old exterior case (four years old at the time, I believe) and put in more modern internals. This still resulted in a phone that was much worse than other phones available at the same price - e.g. tiny screen, huge bezels, etc. Now the SE has been around for two years, and this means that in 2018 Apple are still selling a phone with an external design from 2012, and - this is hard to believe - they still want EUR 330 for it.

    Various people here claim that this doesn't hurt Apple's sales but I disagree. I think this is the point that our friend TylerLV76 feels so strongly about, but personally I would not spend EUR 530 on a phone that is three years old. This means that Apple have no viable products for me to buy. I think many other people would agree with me, and that Apple would sell a lot more products if they made a phone at, say, EUR 500 which was modern and competitive at that price.

    BTW, it is rumoured that Apple will do exactly what I am saying this year - check out the links in my earlier post. We will have to wait and see, of course, but I hope they do.
    04-29-2018 04:20 AM
  12. TylerLV76's Avatar
    Let me put it another way - if customers prefer older phones as you claim (iPhone 6S, SE, etc), why do Apple record their highest sales in Q4, which is the quarter in which they launch their new models?

    Various people here claim that this doesn't hurt Apple's sales but I disagree. I think this is the point that our friend TylerLV76 feels so strongly about, but personally I would not spend EUR 530 on a phone that is three years old.
    Ok look, one last time since you insist on continuing on about this. If what you say is true for anyone besides you, why is the SE the highest sold phone in the UK and wildly successful still in the U.S.? The 2 regions Apple focuses on. You wouldn't buy it but millions of people are. I don't lower my costs when my sales numbers are high. I lower them when sales start to fall.

    Please stop comparing cheap throw away Android phones with phones that have proven are useful even with current updates this many years later. We get it, you don't want pay the prices that Apple successfully sells millions of phones at. They are #2 in the market at these prices and I highly doubt they are going to cut them back to your liking. Even the rumored $550 upcoming iPhone won't satisfy you because it is also rumored that they will remove features from that device so it doesn't take away from the higher end models.

    What you're suggesting they do, to suit you, is business suicide. You want them to introduce a cheap model that will be lacking features that will take sales away from their flagship devices. This will not only decrease profits but will cause them to have a model that doesn't stack up after the first year.

    Theres a reason the companies you keep comparing never break the top 3 in market share and its because this is what they do. LG, Lenovo, etc. They sell lower quality phones that diminish their sales and reputation. Apple doesn't need to do this nor should they. They built a reputation on quality and features, not on offering cheap alternatives. Even the 3 year old devices have better cameras and run the OS better than even some of todays flagships.


    Twenty times? Are you serious? This is why I would never buy mobile phone insurance such as Apple Care! (don't know if you do, of course)
    Yes at least 20 times. I have MacBooks, phones, watches and iPads in my house used by 4 people. A couple of them are pretty clumsy. This is EXACTLY why I buy AppleCare. Had I not I would have spent more than double what I paid to have these devices fixed. I use my AppleCare on every device. I sell my devices at top dollar when I upgrade and AppleCare makes sure I can do that.


    I remain mystified by the number of problems people on this site have with mobile phones. I have owned Apple mobile products and Android-based mobile products, and have never had a problem with any of them that required the product to be returned or repaired. I am also aware of typical return rates for consumer electronics products (I have worked in the industry) and people here experience orders of magnitude more problems than typical consumers, both with Apple and non-Apple products.
    I bought I believe a total of 16 Android phones last year (its pretty well documented on Android Central). I bought so many because I couldn't find an Android phone that I actually enjoyed using for more than a week or 2 besides the Mate 9, LG G6 (that one only lasted a month) and the note 8. Not a single one of those had the convenience, if I dropped the phone and broke the screen, that Apple has. Many of them had issues (I misspoke about the 4 S8 Actives, it was the S7 Active). Not one of those companies I tried had a store I could walk into and get a same day repair.

    You buy what 1 or 2 phones a year? Of course you wouldn't have the issues I had when I bought 16. Every Android flagship that came out last year, except the Note 8, had some kind of well documented issue. Even Samsungs flagships had it with the tinted screens on the S8 series.


    The bottom line is this. You want a cheaper way to be apart of the Apple ecosystem. You feel they are too expensive and it prevents you from buying their products. The problem is, based on the amount of sales they turn out year after year, you are in the minority. They are absolutely killing it at their current price points for almost all of their devices (HomePod excluded). When you are as successful as they are at these prices there is zero reason to lower them. Even their 3 year old devices outsell many of the most recent flagship devices that cost less.

    The sad part about this all is I am not a fan of Apples OS and leadership. They are dated OS wise and need a serious upgrade and I blame Tim Cook and Jony Ivy for this. Even with that opinion, here I am typing this on a Macbook Pro, wearing my Apple Watch, playing music off my iPhone X on my AirPods. For someone who's not a fan of Apple, you gotta ask why Im surrounded by all their products...
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    04-29-2018 09:25 AM
  13. Ken Magel's Avatar
    How about if Apple were to consolidate their hardware offerings to the following:
    1. 1 desktop (Mac) line with a variety of memory and display sizes;
    2. 1 desktop professional line in two sizes with user expandable memory and other peripherals;
    3. On regular laptop line in 11", 13" and 15" sizes;
    4. A low cost IPad line in 9.7 inch size
    5. An IPad Pro line in 10.5 and 12.9 inch sizes
    6. An Apple Pencil
    7. An Apple Watch in two sizes with aluminum and stainless steel
    8. A HomePad single model with greatly improved Siri and at least one audio out port
    9. Of course, at least three models of the IPhone: a 4" screen, a 5.5" screen and a larger model.

    Then they could limit their software line to:
    1. IWorks
    2. Siri
    3. IMovie
    4. ICloud
    5. Garage Band
    6. Swift Playgrounds
    7. IBooks
    8. XCode for Mac and for IOS
    and, of course, IOS and Mac OS.

    Still seems like a lot for one company to keep competitive, but perhaps Apple could do so.
    Last edited by Ken Magel; 05-02-2018 at 03:23 PM.
    04-30-2018 03:05 PM
  14. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Ok look, one last time since you insist on continuing on about this. If what you say is true for anyone besides you, why is the SE the highest sold phone in the UK and wildly successful still in the U.S.? The 2 regions Apple focuses on. You wouldn't buy it but millions of people are. I don't lower my costs when my sales numbers are high. I lower them when sales start to fall.

    (snipped the rest for brevity)
    And you don't get my point. I have not argued that Apple should introduce cheaper products (although that is an interesting idea to discuss another time). I have argued that Apple should make their cheaper products better - not just reuse old products from several years ago. You claim I would be unhappy with a cheaper new product because it would not have all the features of the most expensive product. That is utter nonsense - of course it would be "less good" in some way than the more expensive products but if Apple make good decisions it can still be a perfectly good product for the price. This is the game for any mobile phone manufacturer, or most manufacturers of anything.

    Apple have around 14% market share for smart phones world wide. If they improve their cheaper products, they could win back some of the 86% they don't currently have.
    05-01-2018 04:08 AM
  15. TylerLV76's Avatar
    And you don't get my point. I have not argued that Apple should introduce cheaper products (although that is an interesting idea to discuss another time). I have argued that Apple should make their cheaper products better - not just reuse old products from several years ago. You claim I would be unhappy with a cheaper new product because it would not have all the features of the most expensive product. That is utter nonsense - of course it would be "less good" in some way than the more expensive products but if Apple make good decisions it can still be a perfectly good product for the price. This is the game for any mobile phone manufacturer, or most manufacturers of anything.

    Apple have around 14% market share for smart phones world wide. If they improve their cheaper products, they could win back some of the 86% they don't currently have.
    So you want the cheaper products to have better specs? But you feel the cheaper products are priced too high with the current specs? Cant have it both ways.

    Im not sure you realize how big 14% worldwide actually is.

    This was a thread to discuss what Apple should eliminate, not what you want to pay to be part of the Apple ecosystem. I have explained repeatedly why Apple would be foolish to eliminate the SE, as you suggested, and even why they have priced it and other devices the way they do. We have taken up enough of the thread on this nonsense. Its time to let the thread get back on topic.
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    05-01-2018 06:07 AM
  16. anony_mouse's Avatar
    So you want the cheaper products to have better specs? But you feel the cheaper products are priced too high with the current specs? Cant have it both ways.
    No, those are both logically the same thing. I want the cheaper products to have better specs. Correct. I think the current cheaper products are priced too high given their current specs. Correct. Think about it.

    Im (sic) not sure you realize how big 14% worldwide actually is.
    Well, 14% is not bad. It's better than 13% or 12%. But it's not as good as 15% or 16%. I don't think Apple should sit back and stop trying.

    This was a thread to discuss what Apple should eliminate, not what you want to pay to be part of the Apple ecosystem. I have explained repeatedly why Apple would be foolish to eliminate the SE, as you suggested, and even why they have priced it and other devices the way they do. We have taken up enough of the thread on this nonsense. Its time to let the thread get back on topic.
    This discussion could not be more on topic - i.e. what products should Apple retire.

    I have never said that Apple should eliminate the SE (which is now over two years old). I have said that Apple should update or replace the SE. I think it's good to have a product at that price point. That's exactly what I am arguing - check my previous posts to confirm (and because they are a damn good read).

    I have never said what I am prepared to pay to be part of Apple's ecosystem. I have said that their cheaper products could and should be better value, and more competitive compared to other phones at cheaper or similar prices.
    05-01-2018 06:23 AM
  17. TylerLV76's Avatar
    No, those are both logically the same thing. I want the cheaper products to have better specs. Correct. I think the current cheaper products are priced too high given their current specs. Correct. Think about it.



    Well, 14% is not bad. It's better than 13% or 12%. But it's not as good as 15% or 16%. I don't think Apple should sit back and stop trying.



    This discussion could not be more on topic - i.e. what products should Apple retire.

    I have never said that Apple should eliminate the SE (which is now over two years old). I have said that Apple should update or replace the SE. I think it's good to have a product at that price point. That's exactly what I am arguing - check my previous posts to confirm (and because they are a damn good read).

    I have never said what I am prepared to pay to be part of Apple's ecosystem. I have said that their cheaper products could and should be better value, and more competitive compared to other phones at cheaper or similar prices.
    Good luck to you.
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    05-01-2018 06:24 AM
  18. Sherry_B's Avatar
    what products should Apple retire.
    Definitely not the SE or the 6s. My husband has the SE (his first iPhone), and we bought the 6s Plus for my adult son (also his first iPhone) this past x-mas. Having played with and used both of those phones I can say without a doubt that they're both phenomenal phones, and they have rock solid hardware. An Apple phone is built to last, and they generally do if taken care of.

    Apple is smart giving everyone this many options to choose from. Apple will retire them from their website when people stop buying them so much.

    Decided to add this as an afterthought;

    iPhone SE 32GB; released March 31, 2016. Unlocked and still selling at Apple for $349 USD
    Samsung Galaxy S7 32GB; released March 12, 2016. Unlocked and still selling at Samsung for.. wait for it....... $469.99 USD.
    Last edited by Sherry_B; 05-01-2018 at 07:25 AM.
    05-01-2018 07:00 AM
  19. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Definitely not the SE or the 6s.
    What if Apple replaced them with better products for the same price?

    Decided to add this as an afterthought;

    iPhone SE 32GB; released March 31, 25016. Unlocked and still selling at Apple for $349 USD
    Samsung Galaxy S7 32GB; released March 12, 2016. Unlocked and still selling at Samsung for.. wait for it....... $469.99 USD.
    What do you conclude from this?
    Last edited by anony_mouse; 05-01-2018 at 07:36 AM.
    05-01-2018 07:24 AM
  20. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Good luck to you.
    Maybe putting it another way will help to explain my point.

    My argument is essentially this:
    It would be nice for customers if Apple made better products for the same price.

    Let's generalise this statement, to avoid some obvious sensitivities without changing the logic:
    It would be nice for customers if company X made better products for the same price.

    Replace "company X" with any name you like - Samsung, Microsoft, Ford, Boeing, Apple, Hersheys, the second coffee shop on left on the town square in Timbuktu, etc. This statement is obviously true for any company anywhere in the world at any time in history.

    It seems to me that you are arguing against this logic. This is what I have a problem understanding.
    05-01-2018 07:34 AM
  21. Sherry_B's Avatar
    What if Apple replaced them with better products for the same price?
    Perhaps they will. Perhaps they will not. Begin another thread for that specific topic and see what everyone thinks.

    What do you conclude from this?
    That the iPhone SE is still a great phone that is obviously still making Apple money, and it's being offered at a competitive price point. There's no logical reason to retire a money maker unless the hardware can't keep up with the OS any more.
    05-01-2018 07:49 AM
  22. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Perhaps they will. Perhaps they will not. Begin another thread for that specific topic and see what everyone thinks.
    Given that this thread is about which lines Apple should retire, this seems like a good place to discuss it.

    That the iPhone SE is still a great phone that is obviously still making Apple money, and it's being offered at a competitive price point. There's no logical reason to retire a money maker unless the hardware can't keep up with the OS any more.
    How does the fact that a product is sold for a certain price imply anything about its sales or whether it still makes much money? The fact that it's for sale just indicates that some stock is left! My point is that Apple could sell more phones if they made better phones for the same price.

    If we generalise this point to avoid sensitivities around Apple, we could say "company X could sell more products if they made those products better for the same price". Isn't this universally true for all companies everywhere at all times in history?
    05-03-2018 08:05 AM
  23. Sherry_B's Avatar
    Given that this thread is about which lines Apple should retire, this seems like a good place to discuss it.
    We'll have to agree to disagree.



    ........
    You asked what I concluded from what I posted. I answered.

    This entire conversation seems to be going in an endless loop of repetitive replies and doesn't appear to be moving forward in any type of interesting or positive direction.
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    05-03-2018 02:59 PM
  24. TgeekB's Avatar
    Apple have around 14% market share for smart phones world wide. If they improve their cheaper products, they could win back some of the 86% they don't currently have.
    And Apples 14% creates more revenue than the other 86%. That means their strategy is working.
    Do I wish they made “better, cheaper” products? Sure, but will they if their current strategy is better than anyone else’s? Probably not unless people stop paying top dollar for their devices.
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    05-03-2018 04:31 PM
  25. anony_mouse's Avatar
    And Apples 14% creates more revenue than the other 86%. That means their strategy is working.
    Do I wish they made “better, cheaper” products? Sure, but will they if their current strategy is better than anyone else’s? Probably not unless people stop paying top dollar for their devices.
    Maybe they could make even more money if they changed their strategy a little bit?
    Also, is profit the only way to judge a product? The inventor of the wheel probably didn't make as much money as Tim Cook, but she certainly had more impact on humanity.
    06-08-2018 09:33 AM
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