1. A895's Avatar
    Agreed. Many "power" users are going to prefer OS X because of its *nix underpinnings.
    And that is fine, but there is plenty of power users who use PCs too.

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    10-16-2014 11:46 AM
  2. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Pushbullet isn't for OS X yet. And I said for ME. I am speaking for myself, not anyone else. I feel more at home on a PC than a Mac (I have both). A Mac is nice, but I like PCs better.

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    My bad, for some reason I thought I saw that pushbullet had been released for os x. But some of its features are built into iOS 8 and Yosemite.
    10-16-2014 11:50 AM
  3. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    A PC mainly because it feels, I don't know how to say it....more for power users? I have an iMac at home, but it doesn't feel right for me. But my W8.1 convertible, I can do whatever, the file manager for one feels more intuitive, I can customize the them, wallpaper, and start screen out of the box. I like how there is more software for PC too. I like PushBullet for PC for one, I get my phones notifications on my PC without Chrome, and I can push anything on my computer to my phone and anything on my phone to my computer. I also like how Xbox Video is integrated into PC, so I rent and buy movies on my computer, I can stream them on my Xbox too. Oh, and OneDrive is built into PC so all my files and documents are available wherever, even on the web.
    Each to their own. I used to think that Windows was more intuitive until I got my first Mac but I'm now sold on OS X and it seems more intuitive. And I use both regularly because I use Windows at work and Mac at home. Part of intuitive is just what you are used to-i.e., it seems more intuitive because you are more familiar with it. It would be really hard these days to test true intuitiveness because so many people are going to be familiar with one or more PC operating systems.
    But all of those things can be done with OS X as well. Such as if you replace Xbox video with iTunes and Xbox with AppleTV, I can buy videos on my PC and watch them via the AppleTV.
    But as I said, each to their own. I pretty fluidly switch back and forth.
    10-16-2014 11:50 AM
  4. HankAZ's Avatar
    As much as I despise the cesspool that is Windows, this thread is about preference and opinion. So, in that context, there is no wrong answer.

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    10-16-2014 11:51 AM
  5. A895's Avatar
    My bad, for some reason I thought I saw that pushbullet had been released for os x. But some of its features are built into iOS 8 and Yosemite.
    Yeah, some. But PushBullet is still ahead of the curve. I can reply to text messages from my computer to my phone too. It is the one app that is the best on Android then anywhere else.
    10-16-2014 12:00 PM
  6. A895's Avatar
    Each to their own. I used to think that Windows was more intuitive until I got my first Mac but I'm now sold on OS X and it seems more intuitive. And I use both regularly because I use Windows at work and Mac at home. Part of intuitive is just what you are used to-i.e., it seems more intuitive because you are more familiar with it. It would be really hard these days to test true intuitiveness because so many people are going to be familiar with one or more PC operating systems.
    But all of those things can be done with OS X as well. Such as if you replace Xbox video with iTunes and Xbox with AppleTV, I can buy videos on my PC and watch them via the AppleTV.
    But as I said, each to their own. I pretty fluidly switch back and forth.
    I don't want to live in the Apple ecosystem, it seems people get stuck in it and never get out of it. At least Microsoft Services are ubiquitous enough that my phone choice is never hampered by ecosystem. I can buy an iPhone, WP or an Android device and still have all my Microsoft Services. Apple stuff is for Apple hardware only and I only have an iMac, as compared to my Xbox, windows PC, and Android phone.
    10-16-2014 12:04 PM
  7. Derek Batchelor's Avatar
    Hands down PC. The main reason is because I prefer to build and maintain my own devices. My home pc is primarily used for gaming, photo and video editing. As I build my own, I can pick the specifications that I want, not what somebody tells me that I need. Windows is also a far better platform for gaming (Apple runs games notoriously poorly for what should be a similar machine). For example in the game that I'm playing, the latest Macbooks struggle, where a similarly priced Windows based laptop runs it with no issues. By building my own PC, I also saved about 70% of the cost of a similarly specced Mac, not to mention have the ability to upgrade and replace parts as necessary. I have a couple recent things that have solidified this.

    I have a power PC that I built for myself in February this year. The hardware equivalent is a Mac Pro Quad core. I have the same CPU, more ram, similar video, bigger SSD, a HD which the Mac pro does not have and I can swap out equipment at any time. The price of the Mac Pro? $3200. The price I paid? $1300.00

    The second story is with regards to my parents pc. They were having perceived performance issues with their desktop pc. I went over and found that the hard drive wasn't performing well. I bought a new SSD, installed that and they are very happy with the upgrade. With a Mac, you cannot perform upgrades like this, so they would have had to purchase a new computer for $1000+ instead of a $100 upgrade.

    There are definitely times and places for a Mac, however for typical use at home, and those that know nothing or want to know nothing about their hardware can do nicely with them, however those that do know a little bit about hardware, the quality of their hardware and want good value for their performance, the PC is the better bet. It all depends on you.
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    10-16-2014 12:06 PM
  8. Derek Batchelor's Avatar
    That's absolutely correct. The Apple ecosystem is designed to trap it's users. It's one of the marketing techniques that Apple uses to ensure it's customers continue to overpay for their devices.
    10-16-2014 12:08 PM
  9. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I don't want to live in the Apple ecosystem, it seems people get stuck in it and never get out of it. At least Microsoft Services are ubiquitous enough that my phone choice is never hampered by ecosystem. I can buy an iPhone, WP or an Android device and still have all my Microsoft Services. Apple stuff is for Apple hardware only and I only have an iMac, as compared to my Xbox, windows PC, and Android phone.
    That's why I said each to their own. I use a wide variety of Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Apple services all of which work on my Mac and most of which work with my Windows PC at work. And then I add on Dropbox, Box, etc which are also cross platform. So it works FOR ME.
    10-16-2014 12:08 PM
  10. HankAZ's Avatar
    I don't want to live in the Apple ecosystem, it seems people get stuck in it and never get out of it. At least Microsoft Services are ubiquitous enough that my phone choice is never hampered by ecosystem. I can buy an iPhone, WP or an Android device and still have all my Microsoft Services. Apple stuff is for Apple hardware only and I only have an iMac, as compared to my Xbox, windows PC, and Android phone.
    I am quite happy with the Apple ecosystem. Everything works together. OS X software titles may not be as plentiful as it is for Windows, but I have software for everything that I need. The fact that the OS and the hardware come from the same company is a major plus. There are virtually no problems with missing or poorly written drivers for the thousands of brands of hardware, adapters and add-ons for Windows. I have yet to experience a blue screen of death (BSOD) in OS X - something that I could never say about Windows.

    With regard to your comment that people get stuck in the Apple ecosystem and never get out, I have no desire to leave. I have everything that I need right here in Apple-land.

    As Karen said, to each his own.
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    10-16-2014 12:09 PM
  11. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    Yeah, some. But PushBullet is still ahead of the curve. I can reply to text messages from my computer to my phone too. It is the one app that is the best on Android then anywhere else.
    I can do this natively within Yosemite and iOS 8. Works great and no app needed. But it is a good feature regardless of if it's an app or not.
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    10-16-2014 12:09 PM
  12. A895's Avatar
    That's absolutely correct. The Apple ecosystem is designed to trap it's users. It's one of the marketing techniques that Apple uses to ensure it's customers continue to overpay for their devices.
    I don't know about overpaying, but it is designed to keep people inside of it, especially since Apples services are good, people see no reason to leave, on your point about custom PC's, I have been thinking on my making my own PC or at least getting a gaming laptop within the next year or so. I have always wanted to try PC gaming.
    10-16-2014 12:14 PM
  13. agarwal.apar's Avatar
    I picked up MBA 13" in Aug this year. I was a PC user for years and was satisfied until I saw Mac of my cousin brother.

    Everything just works the way it does on iPhones. Super fast, light weight, amazing battery life, awesome build quality, speakers are nice., flash storage etc etc!

    I am a power user(I work for IT company as Xenapp/Xendesktop engineer) who is used to Windows so much but honestly windows is only good in enterprise now. For personal use, Mac is the way to go!
    10-16-2014 12:15 PM
  14. A895's Avatar
    That's why I said each to their own. I use a wide variety of Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Apple services all of which work on my Mac and most of which work with my Windows PC at work. And then I add on Dropbox, Box, etc which are also cross platform. So it works FOR ME.
    And that is fine, as you say to each their own. I tried Dropbox etc. but they offer no clear advantages over Microsoft's for now. I did use Google Services heavily for a while, but their Google Drive office suite outright sucks for advanced calculations for excel for example or more advanced document editing, but for the basics like writing essays they do fine.
    10-16-2014 12:17 PM
  15. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    There are definitely times and places for a Mac, however for typical use at home, and those that know nothing or want to know nothing about their hardware can do nicely with them, however those that do know a little bit about hardware, the quality of their hardware and want good value for their performance, the PC is the better bet. It all depends on you.
    I'm going to take a a "little" bit of offensive at this characterization. I know lots about hardware. I have built many PCs by hand with separately researched and ordered parts to maximize performance. I feel perfectly comfortable mucking around in the guts of PCs and diagnosing a faulty part and replacing it as necessary. I have all the skills and abilities to build and maintain whatever kind of PC I could want.
    And I still prefer Macs.
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    10-16-2014 12:17 PM
  16. A895's Avatar
    I am quite happy with the Apple ecosystem. Everything works together. OS X software titles may not be as plentiful as it is for Windows, but I have software for everything that I need. The fact that the OS and the hardware come from the same company is a major plus. There are virtually no problems with missing or poorly written drivers for the thousands of brands of hardware, adapters and add-ons for Windows. I have yet to experience a blue screen of death (BSOD) in OS X - something that I could never say about Windows.

    With regard to your comment that people get stuck in the Apple ecosystem and never get out, I have no desire to leave. I have everything that I need right here in Apple-land.

    As Karen said, to each his own.
    I never had missing or poor drivers on PCs or a BSOD, and I have been using PCs since like 2005, when I got my first computer. And that is fine for people who like staying using Apple stuff, but I can't see myself attached to one company's hardware for a long time.
    10-16-2014 12:19 PM
  17. HankAZ's Avatar
    That's absolutely correct. The Apple ecosystem is designed to trap it's users. It's one of the marketing techniques that Apple uses to ensure it's customers continue to overpay for their devices.
    What company isn't in business to make as much money as they can? No one is forcing anyone to do anything. IMO, Apple offers a better product, and that quality is worth a premium to me.
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    10-16-2014 12:19 PM
  18. A895's Avatar
    I can do this natively within Yosemite and iOS 8. Works great and no app needed. But it is a good feature regardless of if it's an app or not.
    For sure.
    10-16-2014 12:19 PM
  19. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    And that is fine, as you say to each their own. I tried Dropbox etc. but they offer no clear advantages over Microsoft's for now. I did use Google Services heavily for a while, but their Google Drive office suite outright sucks for advanced calculations for excel for example or more advanced document editing, but for the basics like writing essays they do fine.
    Oh I use OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox, Box and now iCloud Drive. They are mostly interchangeable to me. I just use all of them to maximize the amount of free storage I get.
    10-16-2014 12:20 PM
  20. HankAZ's Avatar
    I never had missing or poor drivers on PCs or a BSOD, and I have been using PCs since like 2005, when I got my first computer. And that is fine for people who like staying using Apple stuff, but I can't see myself attached to one company's hardware for a long time.
    Fair enough. As I said earlier, this thread is about opinions and preference. Enjoy your tech and I’ll enjoy mine.
    10-16-2014 12:23 PM
  21. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I never had missing or poor drivers on PCs or a BSOD, and I have been using PCs since like 2005, when I got my first computer. And that is fine for people who like staying using Apple stuff, but I can't see myself attached to one company's hardware for a long time.
    You must have skipped Vista then since Vista was well known for missing drivers until SP1 came out in Feb 2008.
    10-16-2014 12:24 PM
  22. agarwal.apar's Avatar
    Mac - Beauty with brains :O
    10-16-2014 12:26 PM
  23. pappy53's Avatar
    That's absolutely correct. The Apple ecosystem is designed to trap it's users. It's one of the marketing techniques that Apple uses to ensure it's customers continue to overpay for their devices.
    This statement borders on trollish.
    10-16-2014 12:26 PM
  24. A895's Avatar
    Oh I use OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox, Box and now iCloud Drive. They are mostly interchangeable to me. I just use all of them to maximize the amount of free storage I get.
    I did too, but it is hard to keep track of them all, I have stuff on Dropbox, Google Drive, and OneDrive, but OneDrive is integrated throughout PCs so I naturally go for the service that is native. Plus it integrates into Office 2013, which means documents are automatically saved on there, so I can edit them through the Office app on my phone, a critical feature for a college student such as myself.
    10-16-2014 12:27 PM
  25. A895's Avatar
    You must have skipped Vista then since Vista was well known for missing drivers until SP1 came out in Feb 2008.
    I had a Vista computer, never had any issues besides dealing with IE.
    10-16-2014 12:27 PM
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