1. Bill Tep's Avatar
    Ok I've searched far and wide but other forums do not seem to be receptive of my motives, so I'm hoping you JBers can relate! I've been longing to jb my device since I opened the box. With work and life I couldn't do it right away (only had phone for about two weeks). I'm a sucker for new updates (bad 7.1) as it promised the dark keyboard. Which is all I really want from jbing is switching up the visual aesthetics a lil' bit. Didn't know until I tried to jb that 7.1 won't be broken anytime soon, nor did I know that you couldn't revert to an older iOS in lieu of 7.1. I believe that Apple jipped me of the dark keyboard which is the ONLY reason I updated stat. My phone is in perfect condition, absolutely zero issues to speak of (go figure) so what excuses do I have in my arsenal to get Apple store to replace my perfect device? After writing this I notice it sounds very selfish but hey **** them they ****ed me over I paid for this device so I don't feel bad. Any help? Suggestions? Thanks in advance

    TLDR need reasons/excuses to convince apple store to replace/swap iPhone 5s in mint cond. to procure device with older OS.
    04-09-2014 05:46 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    ...so what excuses do I have in my arsenal to get Apple store to replace my perfect device?

    Absolutely NONE.
    04-09-2014 05:50 PM
  3. iEd's Avatar
    All that to try and get a older OS? How did you get jipped for the dark keyboard? Did you pay for it and didn't get it? Man live with what you got. It ain't that deep.
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    04-09-2014 05:56 PM
  4. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Not only that since you bought your phone with 7.1 already installed and at this point in time they will almost all have 7.1. Do you expect the Apple store to open every one and read them until they find one without 7.1? i don't think so and really think that the post we would have 1 suggestion... Forget the idea and move on setting up your phone. I have read a lot of posts but nothing like this.
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    04-09-2014 06:01 PM
  5. Septembersrain's Avatar
    Oh come on. I am having some crazy issues with my 5c and I still feel guilty even considering taking it to the Apple store for replacement. Don't take advantage of the system. Not to mention you'll get a 5s with 7.1 again anyways... They try to update them right away (My local store does anyways)....


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    04-09-2014 06:07 PM
  6. kch50428's Avatar
    Oh come on. I am having some crazy issues with my 5c and I still feel guilty even considering taking it to the Apple store for replacement. Don't take advantage of the system. Not to mention you'll get a 5s with 7.1 again anyways... They try to update them right away (My local store does anyways)...
    Never feel guilty about getting a legitimate warranty issue resolved.
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    04-09-2014 06:11 PM
  7. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Oh come on. I am having some crazy issues with my 5c and I still feel guilty even considering taking it to the Apple store for replacement. Don't take advantage of the system. Not to mention you'll get a 5s with 7.1 again anyways... They try to update them right away (My local store does anyways)....


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    I would not think the Apple store would break the shrinkwrap on boxes and upgrade phones. That is why when you get home at times it will tell you you have an update if it is older stock and then they are going to rewarp them. I don't believe they would do that. I have never heard of an Apple store doing something like that. You would be referring to then iPads as well as anything that would be 7.1 and not just phones.
    04-09-2014 06:18 PM
  8. Bill Tep's Avatar
    Jipped as in the dark keyboard functionality was flaunted in beta and prior to release of 7.1- whereas in the public release 7.1 alas no dark keyboard. Manipulating the system? I paid hard earned cash for this device I don't believe I'm manipulating anything but that's your opinion. As well as not having any options to revert to older OS's as was once possible. Yikes sorry for the uproar
    04-09-2014 07:38 PM
  9. Bill Tep's Avatar
    Also it wasn't running 7.1 when purchased it was 7.0.x as I stated I downloaded 7.1 OTA
    04-09-2014 07:40 PM
  10. Garz's Avatar
    Jipped as in the dark keyboard functionality was flaunted in beta and prior to release of 7.1- whereas in the public release 7.1 alas no dark keyboard. Manipulating the system? I paid hard earned cash for this device I don't believe I'm manipulating anything but that's your opinion. As well as not having any options to revert to older OS's as was once possible. Yikes sorry for the uproar
    Dark keyboard was only in beta 1. Betas are for testing. Nothing in betas are guaranteed to be in official. You weren't jipped. Just because you paid cash, doesn't mean your entitled to anything.
    04-09-2014 11:16 PM
  11. Highrisedrifter's Avatar
    Hi and welcome to iMore

    Are there any issues with your phone that require replacement? No, there aren't. You won't get a replacement.

    You are trying to play the system here. You bought an item and that item has delivered completely on what was promised to you. You didn't do your homework and check things and now it's Apple's fault?
    04-10-2014 05:32 AM
  12. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Nobody screwed you over...nobody jipped you.
    04-10-2014 08:04 AM
  13. kataran's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore

    With some leg work you could get what you want. Simply put your Mint i5S on eBay and get the max amount you can then search eBay for one running a breakable OS

    I wouldn't do it because it's not worth the effort but it can be done
    04-10-2014 08:17 AM
  14. nikkisharif's Avatar
    Jipped as in the dark keyboard functionality was flaunted in beta and prior to release of 7.1- whereas in the public release 7.1 alas no dark keyboard. Manipulating the system? I paid hard earned cash for this device I don't believe I'm manipulating anything but that's your opinion. As well as not having any options to revert to older OS's as was once possible. Yikes sorry for the uproar
    If you don't feel you're trying to manipulate the system then just go to Apple and tell them what your issue is...no need to make up anything!!!

    Edit: BTW...Welcome to iMore!!
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    04-10-2014 10:16 AM
  15. jburke82's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore

    With some leg work you could get what you want. Simply put your Mint i5S on eBay and get the max amount you can then search eBay for one running a breakable OS

    I wouldn't do it because it's not worth the effort but it can be done
    Or you can search on craigslist for a trade or something...but I don't know how much luck you will have trading a mint 5s for another mint 5s that hasn't been updated, unless the person really wants a different color...?

    But I agree with Nikki....if you feel like your argument holds water, then go see what an apple store says about it!
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    04-10-2014 11:43 AM
  16. iEd's Avatar
    Jipped as in the dark keyboard functionality was flaunted in beta and prior to release of 7.1- whereas in the public release 7.1 alas no dark keyboard. Manipulating the system? I paid hard earned cash for this device I don't believe I'm manipulating anything but that's your opinion. As well as not having any options to revert to older OS's as was once possible. Yikes sorry for the uproar
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    04-10-2014 04:05 PM
  17. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    By the way if you decide to listen to all of the solid advice given to you and become more sensible to you understand if you were reading what you are writing and it was us reading this, This phone may not be for you. If you took all of this and put it together you would realize how crazy anybody asking this sounds. Maybe I might suggest if you want a definitive answer go to your Apple store and ask them what you asked us and see what they think as they are saying Sorry!
    04-10-2014 07:14 PM
  18. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    I think thins is a post we took to far and if let go it will wind up on the back page where hopefully I am the last one to answer.
    04-10-2014 07:15 PM
  19. reeneebob's Avatar
    Good lord, all this for a stupid dark keyboard?

    The entitlement these days...


    If you ask me a question & don't get an answer, you're likely on ignore on whatever mobile device I'm using today.
    04-10-2014 08:32 PM
  20. Speedygi's Avatar
    I think you should get on with the device you get, UNLESS it has broken parts or features or something. It doesn't.
    04-11-2014 01:33 AM
  21. Peligro911's Avatar
    Put it under your car and drive over and then reverse take it to apple and pay 199 they will replace it. The replacement will prob have 7.1 also


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    04-11-2014 02:12 AM
  22. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Is there really anything else to offer in the way of constructive critisism or advice to the OP? Why don't we leave it go. It seems he has.
    04-11-2014 01:00 PM
  23. Peligro911's Avatar
    Is there really anything else to offer in the way of constructive critisism or advice to the OP? Why don't we leave it go. It seems he has.
    Not really seems like everyone jumped him pretty good.. Only thing I could think of is to pay the replacement fee and hope for old software


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    04-11-2014 09:48 PM
  24. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Not really seems like everyone jumped him pretty good.. Only thing I could think of is to pay the replacement fee and hope for old software


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    You know something... I had this down to almost the bottom and going over to another page and it takes one person to post and now it is back up to the top again when there is nothing in this thread. I wish this thread of all even though it is not suppose to be, Be locked.
    Last edited by Jaguarr40; 04-11-2014 at 10:21 PM.
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    04-11-2014 09:57 PM
  25. joemd60's Avatar
    Updates are a necessity. That's what keeps the OS running smooth.
    IMHO, I don't see the logic behind wanting a dated OS on the iPhone.
    Last edited by joemd60; 04-11-2014 at 10:15 PM.
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    04-11-2014 10:05 PM
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